If they were really wrote on Jun 23, 2008 11:30 AM:serious, they would stop all automobile traffic except for emergency vecihles. They would also order the Governor to take commercial flights instead of private jets. But as usually, the little people need to do as the people in power says, not as they do. Revolution anyone?

prof wrote on Jun 23, 2008 12:22 PM:HUGE BOONDOGGLE!

Concerned One wrote on Jun 23, 2008 12:28 PM:Thank you very much Al Gore. Yes global warming is very dangerous, but only in what these idiots in Sacramneto/Washington are doing. The climate is changing, naturally, all the time. We need to adapt to it, not ruin our economy.

Mike From Escondido wrote on Jun 23, 2008 12:40 PM:If they are serious, they would immediately approve additional nuclear power plants. Japan and France have more nuclear power plants per capita than any other countries, and both produce the majority of their power, virtually greenhouse gas emission free!

Ron wrote on Jun 23, 2008 12:45 PM:This article just reeks of Central Planning. You know... Stalin had a 5- year plan too.

Derek wrote on Jun 23, 2008 12:52 PM:Add a $1 per gallon gasoline tax. Collect all the revenues and distribute it equally to everyone.

If the average person uses 500 gallons of gas a year, then everyone would get back $500, whether they bought any gas that year or not. The poor especially will have that much more incentive to walk and bike everywhere and live closer to work.

Yo Politicans and wrote on Jun 23, 2008 1:08 PM:other assorted wackos. We the citizens are doing nothing until we see you and your family riding bikes and taking buses. Until then just do everybody a favor and zip it! Remeber this is an election year!

Nuclear wrote on Jun 23, 2008 1:32 PM:Nuclear is soooo old school - just like oil. Lot's of nasty waste products. What we need to do is harness the creativity that the 'ole USofA is so renowned for and really think outside the box. Imagine if every house was built with solar panels, and every house was hooked up to the grid? Obviously some areas would generate more power than others, but on the whole everyone would benefit. Sure, there are tons of reasons people can come up with why this won't work, but no one thought the Wright Bros. would fly, either!

I know lets wrote on Jun 23, 2008 1:49 PM:gather all of the morons in government and make soylent GREEN wafers! We have enough morons we could feed the world!

The only wrote on Jun 23, 2008 1:59 PM:warming is put forth by these folks talking constant alarmism. Create a crisis and get Grants, Nobel prize etc. Keeps them employed and in our press. Offsets, what a joke. You can bet whatever they come up with the sheep will follow and it will cost us more. 20 years ago these same people were saying we were headed for an Ice Age!!

Dont forget wrote on Jun 23, 2008 2:17 PM:it was thirty years ago the same morons and their sheep were screaming holes in the ozone, don't use spray deoderant. We need a qualifing test to prove you have the IQ to be in society.

Vista Resident wrote on Jun 23, 2008 2:19 PM:The folks that spout propaganda against clean energy probably have vested interests in our current energy system. These folks don't really care if we run our world into the ground as long as they can make a profit on it and keep their monopolies intact. But, how do you keep a monopoly on energy if the sun can make everyone their own energy producer? Decentralized energy will put the OPEC monopoly out of business. That true economic freedom.

SAVE THE PLANET wrote on Jun 23, 2008 2:25 PM:Don't let politicans breed!

STOP wrote on Jun 23, 2008 2:43 PM:gorebul warning, we need a revolution

To Vista Resident- wrote on Jun 23, 2008 2:44 PM:If you belive the government is going to let you have free energy from the sun they can't tax, I have some swamp land you can buy. Today $20,000 to put a decent solar system in. Pay back is way to long and the technology isn't great yet. When it becomes affordable the government will tax it. If we would have been drilling here 5 years ago we would be in good shape now. The longer we delay the longer we are hooked to foreigners for our oil. You environuts can't see that alternatives are a long way out and oil is needed until then. Get a job, commute, try to raise a family etc and maybe you will understand.

Have you kicked wrote on Jun 23, 2008 3:13 PM:your politican today? Geeze these guys now have a rep lower than used car salesmen and lawyers combined.

Bad Habit wrote on Jun 23, 2008 3:15 PM:How about limiting the amount of people able to move here from other states. Everyone wants to live here and so we have more cars, which equals more smog. More people also consume more water and we are running out. People need to be spread out evenly throughout the United States so as to not put to much of a drain on one particular state. All of that water in Iowa just going down the Missippi river to the gulf - what a waste.

to wrote on Jun 23, 2008 3:38 PM:I have a job, I commute, I have raised my family, and I understand. We cannot continue being dependent on oil. History is replete with many examples of vested interests impeding any progress towards weaning from oil. Unfortunately, you are right that there needs to be a transition. Unfortunately, the only thing that will work is cold turkey. We are a smart country. Get rid of that dinosaur big oil and let the creative juices (and investment) flow!

prof wrote on Jun 23, 2008 3:56 PM:"Create a crisis?" Does massive weapons of destructions ring a bell?

"Keeps them employed" Do you mean Halliburton, Blackwater and the other companies getting no bid contracts while fleecing the tax payers?

HUGE BOONDOGGLES!

CFC and the ozone layer? Try telling that to the Australians who have the highest skin cancer rates in the world, in part, thanks to CFC.

Skeptic wrote on Jun 23, 2008 4:26 PM:The article says greenhouse gases "include carbon dioxide, methane and others in the atmosphere". Did we forget about water vapor? Water vapor accounts for about 95% of heat retention.

Greenergy wrote on Jun 23, 2008 4:32 PM:It is beyond belief that there are so many self-appointed experts who know more than the real scientists who, as regards peer-reviewed academic and scholarly journals that have satisfied the rigors of scientific protocols, are in virtually universal agreement (consensus) regarding climate change.
It has nothing to do with Al Gore (journalist turned politician turned journalist) who is reporting on some of their findings.
As usual, you guys want to shoot the messenger. It is not about Al Gore, but you need an easy target because it is hard to go after a serious scientist living on a scientist's salary.
For C-1 at 12:28 p.m., the climate does change naturally and gradually all the time, but by geological standards the change is massive, rapid and with strong evidence of human causation.
jAnd for The Only at 1:59 p.m. who talks about grants and prizes, this is what conservatives do. Take their own weakest link and try to throw it back on the other side. Tell ya what, you show me all the rich scientists who didn't take the payoff from Big Oil, and I'll show you all the rich oil company executives, and we'll see who is profiting from propaganda not supported by scientific methodology.

To Bad Habit wrote on Jun 23, 2008 4:40 PM:OH, you mean restrictions on immigration. Good luck getting anyone in Sacramento to listen to that.

What are these guys wrote on Jun 23, 2008 4:45 PM:sniffing? Huffing gas fumes?

former con wrote on Jun 23, 2008 4:49 PM:Thank God someone is taking global warming seriously. Go state legislature go! Certainly the Bush admin is doing nothing.

So sad the level of ignorance expressed on this blog by the viewers and listeners of Fox fake news, Glenn Beck and the king of all frauds the drug addled Limbaugh.

Remember when there was a Fairness Doctrine and hired gun propagandists could not go on TV and radio with distortions and lies unless equal time was allowed on the same station for rational responses to the deceit?

Remember when payola money was not funneled under the table by major polluters to "persons of influence" on the radio and TV as a reward for spewing fake information to the gullible.

We would not even be having a debate on human caused global warming if the constant factual errors and deliberate distortions and smears of FOX fake news, Beck and Limbaugh were corrected each and every time they were made.

With a Fairness Doctrine the Kool-Aid gang would hear correct information enough of the time that it might even sink in a bit. The rest of us could begin to trust that what was on the air presented as news or fact based opinion shows was really news and really based on best possible information available not based on who paid the hosts the most money to lie for them.

DD Wiz wrote on Jun 23, 2008 5:19 PM:The post from "Vista Resident-" (2:44pm) indicates a person who would be much better served if they stuck to writing about something they actually know a little about.
I put in a solar photovoltaic system last year and haven't paid an electric bill since. Thousands of San Diego County residence have done the same, and when you see major commercial enterprises such as Costco and Wal*Mart installing systems on facilities, you know the old news about being too expensive and poor technology is just that, OLD NEWS.
She/he says that if we would have been drilling here five years ago, we would be in good shape now. No, our coasts would be fouled up and we'd still be paying the same, since drilling has nothing to do with gas prices.
If we had started installing solar panels on all rooftops five years ago, and converting to electric and plug-in hybrid cars, we'd be in good shape now.

prof wrote on Jun 23, 2008 5:29 PM:"Create a crisis?" Does massive weapons of destructions ring a bell?

"Keeps them employed" Do you mean Halliburton, Blackwater and the other companies getting no bid contracts while fleecing the taxpayers?

Both = HUGE BOONDOGGLES!

CFC and the ozone layer? Try telling that to the Australians who have the highest skin cancer rates in the world, in part, thanks to CFC.

Why give incentives wrote on Jun 24, 2008 6:08 AM:These think tank generated Incentive programs don't work to conserve energy, why would they work to reduce green gas emissions? We got some dumb notification from SDG&E stating we could get a $25 credit on our energy bill for the entire summer...yeah, the whole summer....if we put some device on our air conditioner that regulates it. That works out to a savings of 27 cents a day. Not enough to buy a cup of coffee these days and I bet SDG&E spent millions thinking up that piece of idiocy. As has been proven by the spike in gas prices, IF, you make it hit the pocket book of the average family so that it hurts, people conserve or if you make it worthwhile financially....not 27 cents a day mind you.....people will conserve. And lo and behold the world takes notice. Doesn't take a million dollar think tank to figure out that logic.

Oh hey wrote on Jun 24, 2008 6:11 AM:Does anybody know where I can take the kids to show them the scientist and politicans taking this issue seriously as they get into their private cars and private jets, adding gazillons of tiny little carbon footprints loose on the earth? Help me, help me, cries Mother Earth. LOL, these loons are a joke.

burt wrote on Jun 24, 2008 6:14 AM:San Diego has Sun like other places have oil. Let's start figuring out how to use Local Solar BEFORE oil is too expensive to burn.

Mary wrote on Jun 24, 2008 6:44 AM:Derek has the best idea!

dave from oceanside wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:01 AM:Finally a proposal from one of our 2 presidential candidates that addresses high oil prices and moving us away from gas powered automobiles.
A proposal to offer a $300 million prize for developing a battery inexpensive enough to replace gas for our cars.
Obviously, our economy needs to keep running and not be gutted by idiotic proposals to run our transportation needs by bicycle power.
So in the interim phase he wants to give the Saudi's something to think about, by opening our offshore oil fields.
The Saudi's will realize we finally mean business and will increase their production and quit manipulating the futures markets effecting oil.
China and India along with Europe will be right behind us when a reliable and inexpensive battery becomes available.
This came from McCain.

Billy wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:28 AM:Let me remind you that good city planning has been in effect for some time - since 1963 that I am sure. Growing a town or city properly involves sections of industrial, commercial, and residential, and controlling the grow of each to coincide with the growth of the other.
That includes controlling the growth of the illegal population to nothing. (Talk about giving till it hurts.)
In the above article the term,"spread across the spectrum" is mentioned. I wish someone would tell me what spectrum they are talking about. I know what a spectrum is, but what spectrum in this case? Give me the begainning and the end.
And what sectors are they talking about?
The CAP-and-TRADE plan seems to be paving the way for the larges offenders to do so in a larger way. It is opening the gate that is already closed to those people that have the ways and means to pry it open.
The big concern should be for the air we breathe, or better still should be breathing. For CA to start out trying to solve the greenhouse problem that the world thinks they are feeling is ridiculous. Each country should concentrate on cleaning up their environment, and in doing so they will clean up the greenhouse problem.
I feel certain that the current warming of the earth is a natural phenomenon which is coupled with man's emissions to cause what is called the Greenhouse effect. There is nothing we can do about the natural phenomenon, but we can do a lot about mans contribution in CA to poor quality breathing air.
Last but not least - run those people from the state of Mass. back to where they came from. We have enough good specialists and experts who are CA residences to confuse the issue.

Veggie Alternatives wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:42 AM:It is not possible for every person to immediately stop driving their vehicles in their daily lives I suggest an alternative to the liberal mantra against gasoline use, stop eating beef. Since methane gas has 20 times the effective result as carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas if we all immediately stopped eating burnt animal flesh and shut down the beef industry in California we would make much faster strides towards achieving the mandated goal. It woud also end the ground water pollution that comes with this industry.

Concerned One wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:12 AM:"Hoping to avert a future marked by recurring coastal floods and backcountry wildfires, state regulators are poised to roll out a plan to reverse climate change." Once again I read the lead and once again I fall out of my chair. We will always have coastal flooding, in summer with high tides and a big south swell. We will always have backcountry wildfires, in summer and fall when the backcountry is bone dry. And "reverse" climate change? Sorry DD and Greenenergy, but I don't even think you two could back that statement. Even if human induced climate change is the main contributing factor, think about China. So, let's put all kinds of restrictions on our businesses and economy, while the rest of the world runs amuck. Sorry, I'm not buying it. Kudos to the solar users, and hybrid drivers, I'm with you 100 percent, but the nuts in Sacramento and DC have no clue. Regards, C-1.

Walter wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:42 AM:I am amazed that people still talk about global warming where it is known that we are actually in a global cooling period since around two years. Astronomers are concerned that the sun has much reduced activities since around two years. This is the reason why the so called scientists have changed the term to Global Climate Change since some time. The part scientists and politicians don't like that a reduced son activity is clearly NOT man made. Actually it is an embarrassment for scientist and politicians: maybe they hope that the white knight "Al Gore" will come with another "convenient" story.
Regardless, I think it is good policy to reduce the "human footprint" on earth and to reduce the carbon output of cars as an example, but the reason is not the not existing Global Warming.

JSten wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:46 AM:Does anyone here read National Geographic? While California may take the lead in establishing the processof reversing global warming, the entire REST OF THE GLOBE must do likewise.

They cant even agree that there is a problem with the whales.

The only way to save wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:50 AM:the planet is to start killing off humans, since the greenies were right on this from the beginning, I suggest we start with eliminating them first. Methane is one of several greenhouse gases that contribute to global climate change. Human influenced sources include landfills, natural gas and petroleum systems production and distribution, agriculture, coal mining, combustion, wastewater treatment, and certain industrial processes. Natural sources include wetlands, termites, oceans, and hydrates.

To the Wiz wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:51 AM:Most of us still can't afford solar panels. It's nice that these retailers are embracing solar for their own rooftops. That's helping them but not me so much. I want to be able to walk into any Lowe's or Costco and have them sell me a complete system at a competitive price with installation and stand behind the system and its installation. I would like to see these retailers offer zero interest loans on these systems which they could do if the government helped to guarantee the loans. In short, for the average consumer, prices are too high, there is too much paper work involved, and too many people to deal with.

just wow wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:54 AM:As usual, an article like this has brought out the nutjobs. Sure, we can all stop eating beef, we can all install solar panels (until, that is, we run out of the material to manufacture them, cuz ya know, plastic products are made from petroleum), and we can all buy hybrid vehicles now because we have reached peak oil. There is oil all over this country, but we can't use it because we might damage the environment. What about the environments in the countries that do produce oil? They don't matter, because you all don't live in them?? GROW UP.

Delusions Abound wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:09 AM:California can't even run itself, and now it's going reverse climate change? All the state is doing is DISTRACTING the people from the fact that California is becoming a socialized police state. Between the flood of legislation limiting freedom and privacy and police checkpoints stopping people who are doing nothing wrong to check their "papers", to the cradle-to-grave nanny state feeding, clothing, and medicating...oh, I mean providing health care, the population of this state is quickly becoming nothing more than a bunch of coddled, idealistic, half-conscious revenue units kept "happy" for Sacramento to tap into. One day everyone is going to wake up in their two room apartments (mandated for the environmental good of all), with their 1 legal kid and spouse, waiting for the local public food van to arrive to feed them, and wondering how they are going to survive the next "disaster" that the state announces. It's really sickening to see people turned into sheep, being sheared annually on tax day, not to mention being trimmed continuously by fees and taxes, and living in their little politically correct pens. This is straight out of 1984! Authors used to write science fiction about this sort of utopian thinking as a warning how NOT to develop a society. Now it's like the government is using them as an instruction manual.

Desperate Times call for wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:17 AM:Desperate Action! Line up the politicans and the scientist beginning with Gore, sorry but they have have to be eliminated to save the planet! WASHINGTON (AP) — Exactly 20 years after warning America about global warming, a top NASA scientist said the situation has gotten so bad that the world's only hope is drastic action.

DD Wiz wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:28 AM:The post from "To the Wiz" (8:51am) says: "Most of us still can't afford solar panels. ... I want to be able to walk into any Lowe's or Costco and have them sell me a complete system at a competitive price with installation and stand behind the system and its installation."
Actually, most homeowners CAN afford solar panels NOW, and in pretty much the manner you describe.
I went into Home Depot (not Lowes) and had a contractor from them come out and give a comprehensive quote for a BP Solar system, including installation and 25-year guarantee. It sounded good. I was ready to ink the deal, when my wife, a CPA cost-accountant turned real estate professional, was in Costco, saw their booth, and they sent a guy out who quote a system through Sharp for almost $10,000 less, including installation and 25-year guarantee, for more panels, and that is the deal we went with and are very happy with (especially these days of long summer sunlight). All of these companies are able to stand behind long-term warranties.
Then my real estate wife arranged a 30-year fixed re-fi with rates lower than our previous loan, so we not only eliminated our electric bill, but actually lowered our house payment. I don't want to hear all the "can't do" negativists telling me that any homeowner can't do the same thing right now. Thousands of San Diego County homeowners (including me) have done so in just the last year.

Man we need to get wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:56 AM:rid of some bodys quick! How about we nuke China? No, thats no good, they would nuke us back....I know we can nuke the French, they don't fight back.:)

simple math wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:10 AM:there's too many people here...it's called OVER population

Hold on folks... wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:53 AM:we are preparing the rocket to launch the global warming and greenie crowd into outer space where they can't do any damange.

This is the classic wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:00 PM:example of people with to much time on their hands. It first started on a Iowa farm out in the middle of nowhere, and no water for miles and miles around. There were two little old ladies that weren't happy until everyone around them was upset. So one day one of the ladies said to the other lady, Agnus, you know it just ain't right for younguns to be swimming right after a meal. The other lady thought about it and said Dang nabbit, you are right they should wait at least an hour after eating. And now you know the rest of the story. So all of you global warming morons please keep your comments to yourself. Thank you.

To the Wiz wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:40 PM:I don't want to be a negativist. I would like to be able to swing it. If I may be so bold to ask, what was the total price of your system with installation? It must have been sizable if you elected to fold the cost into a 30 year mortgage. I might consider that except my mortgage is fixed at 4.25% for 5 more years.

Climate Wacko wrote on Jun 24, 2008 1:17 PM:Ever wonder why these climate nut jobs now call it global climate change instead of global warming. Being scientists they need proof. I asked them to follow my advice 10 years ago and conduct a simple experiment...
Lay naked in the hot summer sun all day and tell me the globe is not being warmed! Hence Climate Change instead of Global Warming.

Vista Resident wrote on Jun 24, 2008 3:04 PM:morons... gorebul warning... loons... nuts... greenies... nutjobs...

Name calling is used by 5-year olds when they can't win an argument with facts. Your posts are amusing because its so obvious where your "news" comes from.

To Vista Resident wrote on Jun 24, 2008 3:59 PM:You forgot Gruesome Warming. And what is wrong with 5 year olds, prejudice?

GET REAL wrote on Jun 24, 2008 4:12 PM:If the change really wanted to be done, it doesn't have to wait 10 years, 30%?

It can be done sooner! 5 years, and almost 100%.

WHAT A JOKE, but at least its better then nothing.

I just wish everyone UNITE a stronger force for this to happen.

Beth-San Marcos wrote on Jun 24, 2008 5:10 PM:Is this still AMERICA!

Yikes, are these environmental wackos eating peyote or some other natural LSD?

EnviroGestapo wrote on Jun 24, 2008 5:32 PM:If you oppose global warming, you shall be tagged an idiot and your opinion denied. Either you are one of us or you are just a subhuman without intelligence. The government will take of you simple people.

Fuhrer Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.