LETTERS: NCT, June 24, 2008

By Readers of the North County Times | Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:26 AM PDT

Harness the coastal winds

Regarding, "Utility finds foes to renewable energy line plan," June 15: I am in agreement with the environmentalists in supporting their opposition to a plan to build long transmission lines to provide new power to customers. Therefore, I am proposing that they build wind generators along the coast, thereby having the power generated where it is needed.

Ray Russell

Escondido

Both drivers and pedestrians need to be aware

I would like to thank Dave Downey for his excellent article on making SoCal friendly and pedestrian ("Pedestrians first, cars second," June 16). I either walk or take the bus, and I enjoy these choices. But being a pedestrian is very dangerous. I can well believe Dave Downey's shocking last comment that "one in six people who die in traffic accidents is a pedestrian." I have experienced several close calls with drivers turning into crosswalks without looking or being distracted by their cell phones.

According to Dave Downey, I am not the only pedestrian with this constant threat. One thing that is just plain rude to pedestrians is when drivers block sidewalks, even though they see me walking. This is a frequent problem on the sidewalks in front of the post office. Drivers used to be more aware of pedestrians.

Still, one word to some pedestrians ““ do not jaywalk and force cars to slam on their brakes, and do not walk behind cars that are backing up in parking lots. Pedestrians have a responsibility to take reasonable precautions as well. Both drivers and pedestrians need to be responsible, aware and courteous.

Barbara Lemon

Carlsbad

Time for crying is past

Shut up, you crybabies! Quit your crying. Gas is sky-high. People are losing jobs and losing homes. Young men and women are dying in a worthless war. You voted for this warmonger. Now suck it up.

Joe Parra

Vista

An effective solution that could work

Quite often, a letter appears in the editorial section of this paper relating to the fact that public transit is desperately needed in this county. Let us ensure that mass transit becomes a priority in San Diego County.

A while ago, I attended a planning meeting where BRT, the Bus Rapid Transit system, was explained. Basically, this system uses relatively small trams that ride in a lane a bit larger than the bicycle lane, with curbs that distinguish them as such. They work alongside traffic lanes, utilizing a right-lane-turn-only system whereby fuel and time are saved by continuously moving in one direction. This system has fared well in some pilot cities, including some surface streets in L.A. and in Portland, Ore.

The studies behind this system suggest that 53 percent of San Diegans desire public transit and BRT (pronounced Burt) would address this need by stopping at 15-minute intervals within a 15-minute walk from nearly every home in San Diego County. It also delivers riders at their destination ““ anywhere in San Diego County ““ within two hours, most in an hour and a half. Given the will of the people, let us make this effective solution work.

Sarah Turitto

Cardiff

Voice your opposition in November

Unfortunately for Oceanside, Councilmen Chavez, Feller and Kern consistently use their power of office to vote as a majority bloc. Their decisions will permanently affect how our city develops. These pro-development three often turn a deaf ear to input and vote as they please.

An example is their selection of a task force committee to guide them regarding upgrading the Oceanside Boulevard corridor. They ignored the committee's vision report, the Planning Commission's recommendation, opposition from residents and doomed the area to mediocrity by approving a misfit cement plant. When no consideration is given to opposing viewpoints, it means our city will be the product of the mind-set of only three people, developed to their liking and excluding the beneficial input of others. ...

Asphalt or cement plants, density of development, heights and designs of buildings and environmental decisions will shape our city forever and should be made to benefit residents, not developers. Two of this trio who vote alike will be on our ballots in November, plus other candidates. Voters disapproving of this alliance will have the opportunity to voice their opposition.

Harriett Bledsoe

Oceanside

NCTD customers thrown under the bus

Regarding the June 18 article, "District promotes transit as it cuts service," with North County Transit District set to eliminate routes, reduce services and raise ticket prices, spokesperson Tom Kelleher says he doesn#'t know how much the current #"Dump the Pump#" advertising promotion costs, yet he's certain it will be #"money well spent#" if it lures more people to public transportation. Then he acknowledged that fares cover only about 25 percent of operating costs.

If I understand the multiple spins on these public relations wheels, NCTD is spending an unknown amount of money to attract more riders to fewer routes and decreased scheduling at higher prices, when even an increased ridership won#'t cover 75 percent of operating costs. Here's one thing NCTD should cut: the bull. Always, but especially in times of crisis, communications professionals must share accurate and relevant information. The NCTD spokesperson should know #” or find out #” the costs of the ad campaign. As an NCTD customer and taxpayer who helps subsidize the district, I want to know.

Marilyn Campbell

Oceanside

Our plate is full ““ of serious problems

When George Bush was campaigning for office in 1999-2000, he said that the Clinton administration was missing the chance to make our economy into a "stellar" economy ” i.e., given the same circumstances, George W. felt that Republicans could have brought the GDP up another point or two (?).

I also remember that when we had a spike in oil prices during the campaign, George W. chided Clinton for not arm-twisting OPEC into lowering the price of crude. Looks like the oilmen versus OPEC (W and Cheney) are only paper tigers.

Now that we have had two recessions in eight years under Bush-Cheney, and the prices of gas and diesel are going through the roof, why aren't the Republicans and Democrats holding George and Dick's feet to the fire? Oh, and didn't anyone in Bush's Cabinet ever consider that the subprime lending market might backfire? I thought that it was a bad idea when I found out how it was supposed to work. Even now, subprime lending, the bugaboo that got us into this mess, is still allowed.

Legislators: Do what's right and ban subprime lending, shake some federal money loose for our local existing mass transit systems and fund nuclear power research to make it safe from start to finish.

G. Lance Johannsen

Carlsbad

Frivolous matters distract him

Federal and state budget deficits are setting records. The U.S. economy is in the toilet with rising unemployment, double-digit inflation and stagnant wage growth. Oil is at $135 a barrel, heading for $200. The price of a tank of gas might soon exceed the value of your home.

A bloody, totally unnecessary and horribly expensive war in Iraq drags on with no clear way out. Our government wants expanded use of torture and warrantless spying on Americans in its war on terror. Forty percent of Americans have no health insurance and one of every 100 adults are in jail. Rampant corporate corruption and illegal immigration happens right out in the open while government simply looks the other way. Iran wants nukes. Israel would like to oblige them.

California has another drought and the Midwest is under water. Nearly all of our elected officials are corrupt, incompetent or crazy, and the lamest candidates in a generation are running for president.

Unfortunately, I find myself easily distracted by frivolous matters like these, so I hope those of you obsessed with passing/defeating California's Gay Marriage Amendment will forgive me if I can't get too excited about it either way.

Wayne Strache

San Marcos

Obama throws around the race card

The Obamas aren't exactly playing the race card, but they are coming close by throwing race bits around during political meetings and in a magazine article. In a meeting with a group of Jewish voters in Florida, Barack stated, in part, "Don't judge me because I've got a funny name. Don't judge me because I'm an African-American and people are concerned about memories of the past."

During an interview for an article in Vogue magazine, Michelle stated, "I'm Camelot with a tan," obviously attempting to make a comparison to the myth about the Kennedy family concocted by writers after JFK's assassination.

Finally, Barack got confused on the year he was born. Last March, on the anniversary of the historic march in Selma, Ala., he claimed his parents united as a result of the civil rights movement, "so they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born." He was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965. I'm certain this presidential candidate for the Democrats and his wife will toss the race card about more as the November election nears, especially if it's close. It could help and it could hurt. We'll see.

Leon Smith

Oceanside

There's the door

Why is the Rev. Jeremiah Wright still here? He said he hates America so much.

James Ciriello

San Marcos

Term limits are our right to choose

Regarding "Initiative seeks term limits for City Council," June 17: I have always been in favor of term limits for elected officials, and I support the group that is seeking to get such an initiative on the ballot. My feeling has always been that if a politician cannot accomplish in two terms what he/she promised, then it's time for someone else to take over.

I realize that some politicians are very savvy politically and that they become endeared to their constituents, but by that very same fact, they can also become entrenched, a la Bill Horn, even when they've lost their effectiveness.

Escondido Councilman Dick Daniels feels that term limits deprive voters of the right to choose who they want to elect and re-elect. Isn't that exactly what voting is all about? If the community votes for term limits, isn't that giving the voters the right to choose that they don't want career politicians?

Right here in Escondido, we have entrenched politicians in the City Council, school boards, hospital boards, water boards, etc., who don't seem to be doing anything different yet get elected term after term. ... Look at your county officials, your state legislators, your national leaders. Many should have been out of office years ago.

Please let me know where I can sign that petition.

Andy Pino

Escondido

Safe to criticize from the sidelines

I noticed in the Observer's Oceanside hoax item "Why the Oceanside hoax was not necessary," June 18 he takes the time to object to the tactics used by the police and the school district to discourage teen drinking and driving but fails to offer an alternative approach. It must feel good to sit on the outside passing judgment, carping about what has happened, safely knowing he will not have to suffer the consequences of his failure to act.

Perhaps Mr. Van Doorn has a suggestion. I also have to question his idea of "Just say no." The program was not designed to address addicts but was an attempt to provide children the fortitude to resist drugs.

Mr. Van Doorn tells us what doesn't work but fails to follow up with suggestions he believes will be effective and then act on them. It sure is safe from the sidelines.

Paul Roberts

Encinitas

Let's work together to find a solution

I am becoming increasingly concerned that the city of Carlsbad is not moving forward fast enough, or effectively enough, in managing its money. How can we as a city spend $70 million on a golf course that's bleeding $1 million a year in red ink, and then quibble over a firetruck, as the council did at last Tuesday night's meeting? Kudos to Matt Hall for laying things out quite clearly, and eloquently, when he called on his fellow councilors to recognize that the down economy is bound to impact Carlsbad in the coming months and urged them to look at other ways to fund vital city projects than simply relying on developer fees, which are drying up, and raising other fees, as the council recently did with traffic impact fees.

He suggests increasing the tax base by working closely with companies "willing to invest in Carlsbad," such as Legoland. I applaud attempts such as these rather than derisive, and divisive, comments such as the one Mayor Bud Lewis made when he accused firefighters of crying wolf in their attempts to justify new equipment purchases. Carlsbad's reserves are dwindling and what was always the city of plenty isn't anymore. But let's work together to find a solution and stop both the foolish spending and the name-calling.

Thomas Arnold

Carlsbad

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jvc wrote on Jun 24, 2008 4:23 AM:WE LOVE YOU GEORGE!

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 5:02 AM:I see Hussein Obama is bashing McCain for changing his position on offshore drilling. McCain was against offshore drilling when gas was $2. He now sees the carnage that $4.50 gas is doing to American jobs and inflation and did what was best for America. Hussein prefers to do what's best for Saudi Arabia, Russia, Venezuela, Nigeria and Mexico and do nothing for America. Hussein bashed Bush for spending money on Iraq, but favor us sending hundreds of billions to the oil cartel. Thats just how liberals are. And when the American electorate sees that Hussein doesnt give a crap about American jobs and inflation, they'll thrown him to history's scrap waste, with the likes of Hillary.

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 5:07 AM:A county official responded to a question that they had expended over 1000 hours in overtime pay to accomodate
the new flood of marriages. I wonder if they would have paid that for heterosexual marriages??? It goes to show you just who is running things in this county

Roberto wrote on Jun 24, 2008 6:17 AM:I'm tired of all the hate filled & lie filled e-mails about Obama. All you have to do is go to snopes.com and guess what?...with this said, I'm voting for John Macain since he he is more qualifed and has a tract record. Obama who? a.nd the antibushites?...get a life

McPander wrote on Jun 24, 2008 6:48 AM:Even the hard core Conservatives here agree that gas prices won't go down if we begin offshire drilling because it will take ten or more years for that oil to come online. (Except for Ron, who personally profits.) John McCain, much like his gas tax holiday, is saying offshore drilling will bring the price of gas down immediately, even though he knows it is not true.

More qualified and a track record? So? McCain is a flat out liar.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:03 AM:McPander[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 6:48 AM: Now, now. It is not polite to call John McCain a liar even if he is one.

Backcountry wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:07 AM:I don't think the oil companies want to produce more oil because that will make the price go down. Even if they did try, the environmental roadblocks would stall the process and make the cost of producing more energy go up. Speculators sure don't want the price to go down but they don't own the oil leases. Congress doesn't care what happens as long as they get reelected. Forget Obama and Mc Cain.

If every American would take this threat to our nation and economy as their personal responsibility and cut back on their daily use of gasoline by 20-30% and stick with it we could bring down the price of fuel considerably as well as saving money. Remember....is this trip necessary?

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:07 AM:The news is reporting that the U.N. says fair presidential vote in Zimbabwe is impossible. I have an easy solution for that. Since Mugabe stole the election by killing the family of the election winner, all Mugabe needs to do is hire and pay Jimmy Carter to say what Mugabe did was best for Zimbabwe. Hugo Chavez paid Carter, why cant Mugabe. Then Mugabe should hire Ramsey Clark, you know, the former attorney general that the liberals sent over to defend Saddam Hussein. He will make sure the murders are blamed on some white, heterosexual, male from North Dakota

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:09 AM:Hussein Obama doesnt think gas prices are high enough, so he's going to massivley raise taxes on the oil companies, thinking that will lower gas prices. Thats how Harvard trained liberals who've never had a real job before think

To Joe Parra wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:18 AM:Good letter and good point.

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:22 AM:Liberals think by further bailing out homeowners from foreclosure, the problem will be solved. LOL. Those people are norobably $100,000 upside down on their mortgages. Do you think paying paying 7% instead of 8% in a govt bailout, will keep them in a mortgage that is $100,000 more than the value of the house. It's just another "make you feel good plan" frpm sugar-daddy Unlce Sam. And of course, while you are re-financing, they hope you wont notice that they are quietly brining back Amnesty and the Dubai port deal under the cover of darkness.

To Backcountry wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:32 AM:You have to factor in the global economy. The United States consumption of gas has already dropped from last year, but the increased demand from China and others offset that and keep the global market high. We must focus on developing alternative energy rather than fighting for the last few drops remaining oil.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:32 AM:Chuck[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:07 AM: Demented drivel. But, it must be the coffee. What's the brand?

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:35 AM:Chuck[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:22 AM:
Dude. They want to save the homeowner in order to save the lenders who are in many instances foreign investors which directly effects the traded dollar. Its a save the rich and the corporations scheme. Why do you hate homeowners and the poor?

Hussein wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:37 AM:Chuck: Music to my ears. Keep saying my name, "Hussein." It is music to everyone's ears. Thanks again!

Up Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:43 AM:Apparently, everybody is entitled to Chuck's opinion.

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:49 AM:>>>Why do you hate homeowners and the poor?>>> I don't hate homeowners and the poor. I hate people who buy homes way above their means, put their name to a mortgage and when things go bad, they run for the hills, leaving the people who invest in mortgages high and dry. Just because you think your signature doesnt mean anything, doesnt mean I hate homeowners.

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:52 AM:>> Demented drivel. But, it must be the coffee. What's the brand?>>> I will admit, I was running late and stopped at
SBUX instead of brewing my own today

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:54 AM:>>>Keep saying my name, "Hussein." It is music to everyone's ears.>>> Its certainly music to the liberals ears. First, their hero gets caught, convicted and hung in Baghdad, and now a new Hussein arise, and raised his staff and the Red Sea parts, and women faint at his very presence.

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:58 AM:It could work as a part of a larger mix, Sarah Turitto. Scheduled to come on line in 2030, the technology still requires oil. Even if we were able to power them by electrical power, we would then need to develop nuclear power.
Build Here.
Build Now.
Develop Nuclear.

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:03 AM:Oh, I forgot, there is one more group I hate. Those are people who bought their homes 13 years ago, refinanced 8 times to suck every dollar out, and now have walked away from their house because they are way upside down. I'm almost to the point where I think that any proceeds from refianced mortages not used to upgrade the home or for business purposes should be taxable income, especially refinancing to buy a boat, Mercedes, or pay off credit cards, etc

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:06 AM:Something just a little distrubing about Harriett Bledsoe's letter today.
It's a phrase she uses: "These pro-development three..."
My first reponse is: "Why only three?"
Why not ALL?
Development means progress.
Aren't you progressive, Harriett?
If not, I guess that makes you anti-development? Sense you describe them as "pro"-development.
Drill Here.
Drill Now.
Pay Less.

Observation wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:08 AM:Four Americans, six Iraqis killed in Baghdad bomb blast AFP
Two GIs among six dead in Sadr City blast United Press International

Backcountry wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:17 AM:We need to continue producing oil, especially our own, but Congress (I hate to say) needs to get their heads out of the sand and develop an energy plan for our future that includes incentives to develop alternative energy tied to oil production. Environmental regulations and restrictions will greatly drive up the cost of doing anything. These regulations must be softened before we can create a good energy program.

Remember, it takes time and money to develop any source of energy. Electric cars won't get free energy. Someone needs to produce the energy to charge the batteries. Someone needs to have a reason (money) to develop electric cars. Solar or wind can be used to charge batteries but don't expect it to be free. Many new sources of energy use more energy to produce than is economical or practical. Everything comes with a price. Every new source of energy impacts the environment.

to Joe Parra wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:22 AM:It would seem that the whiney libs are the ones doing the most complaining. I fine with things. No complaints here. Yes, I do work for a living.

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:37 AM:>>>>Four Americans, six Iraqis killed in Baghdad bomb blast AFP
Two GIs among six dead in Sadr City blast United Press International>>>

That should keep the liberals giddy for a few days

To Joe Parra wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:41 AM:I am embarassed to say I voted for Bush. I am disgusted with his actions or lack of action to what is best for the American people. I am not a liberal, I am conservative Republican. I will not be voting McBush oh I mean McCain because I am sick of the status quo. I will be voting for Barack Hussein Obama to bring a change to America!!!

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:42 AM:Arm-twisting or suing OPEC to lower
the price of crude are liberal non-solutions, and they are non-starters.
If we want to run this economy on electrical power, we need to build nuclear power plants, no doubt.
Once we get Harry Reid out of the way, we will have a safe place to store our nuclear waste.
The problem is we have Democrats dragging their feet on progress.
The future is nuclear, and they are obstructing, G. Lance Johannsen.

Oh raoul second try wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:46 AM:Raoul is insisting that the surge is a great success. I'm rather impressed with it myself. I posted Sunday some data from the NY Times showing that things in Iraq are improving in many important ways. Oil is up to pre-invasion levels (and our oil companies got their no-bid contracts to work that oil: mission accomplished). Violence is way down. The Iraqi troops now number about a half million. And half the political benchmarks have been met. Not only that, but 73% of Iraqis say that the US should leave ASAP. Under these circumstances, a rational (or should we say "gullible"?) person would think that McCain and Bush would be proclaiming victory and beginning to pull the troops out. Remember the promise? "We'll stand down when the Iraqis stand up"? Um, they're standing up. So is this the Bush/McCain position? NO! Their position is the exact opposite. They want 58 permanent bases in Iraq. They want the Iraqis to give the US permission to conduct any military ops it wishes without even having to check with the sovereign nation of Iraq. They want all US troops and mercenaries to be declared immune from Iraqi law. You see, raoul, it was all about oil and imperialism all along, like we said. I know this makes you happy, being a militarist, but most Americans would find this appalling. It's also an admission that all the previous "reasons" for the invastion were pure bogus. I am deeply ashamed that Bush and McCain have this aim in mind for Iraq. They are the reason people like Chris Pulse can make such accurate accusations towards our nation.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:48 AM:Chuck[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:37 AM: Conservatives will be giddy. After all, it shows the surge is working.

Surfer wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:51 AM:Ron[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:42 AM: The people of Neveda will not tolerate their state being a waste dump for spent nucular fuel regards of the presence of Harry Reid. So, that is a non starter as well.
See Ya!

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 8:54 AM:It's not just "Frivolous matters distract {that} him, obviously facts are difficult too. Eh, Wayne Strache?
Not to get bogged down,he does cite on statistic that is so far off, it needs to be addressed.
He says: "Forty percent of Americans have no health insurance..."

Wrong! Less than 15 percent have no health insurance. Nearly a third of those are "wealthy" and have elected not to have health insurance.
Another 1/3, are now qualified for low income solutions, they just have not elected to use them.
The last 1/3 is a transitional problem, of lacking health insurance between jobs.
But finally...
for those who think universal healthcare is the solution, I want you to look up Barbara Wagner, a 64 year old Oregonian who was denied care for her cancer by Oregon's State run healthcare plan. Her doctor had prescirbed to her medication, which the state denied, but instead offered her "palliative care", which included doctor assisted suicide.
As I understand the State's position, they perfer to use their resources on child birth, children's healthcare, and prenatal services.
As Yes.. all those future taxpayers.

Oder in the house wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:02 AM:Hussein
[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 7:37 AM: "Chuck: Music to my ears. Keep saying my name". Typical of Hussein and wannabees, I am so beautiful, Everyone loves me, I am the greatest, How pathetic, How Smelly, How Hussein!

Do you get it now wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:06 AM:From the NY Times QUOTE WASHINGTON -- Justice Department officials over the last six years illegally used “political or ideological” factors to hire new lawyers into an elite recruitment program, tapping law school graduates with conservative credentials over those with liberal-sounding resumes, a new report found Tuesday.
The blistering report, prepared by the Justice Department’s inspector general, is the first in what will be a series of investigations growing out of last year’s scandal over the firings of nine United States attorneys. It appeared to confirm for the first time in an official examination many of the allegations from critics who charged that the Justice Department had become overly politicized during the Bush administration. ENDQUOTE Maybe now you folks will begin to understand what the flap about the fired attorneys was about all along. The conversion of the United States Department of Justice into a Republican political entity. Maybe it's hard to grasp, but think about it. This Department's mission is all about JUSTICE, about objectively defending and carrying out the laws of the land. We want to count on this department for fairness. Not under Bush/Cheney. They used it as a tool for their political advancement. If it helps, try imagining if this had been discovered under Clinton. See? Pretty upsetting, isn't it? If you aren't nauseated by what Cheney and Bush have done since 2000, you either aren't paying attention or you aren't an American.

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:10 AM:Obama is not the post racial candidate. How can you be, when your campaign has accused most every other Democrat of being racist? Hillary, Bill, Geraldine Ferraro... I mean, come on!
Beyond those people, you have the wrong Rev. Wright, Farakhan, and loose lip's Father Phleger. All non-racial, don'tcha see....
But what will sink the Obamaman's campaign will not be any of these...
it will be that he is anti-progress.
Hard to believe a progressive is not progressive.
Oil will sink him, cause regular Americans still need to drive to work.
Drill Here.
Drill Now.
Pay Less.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:25 AM:Leon Smith: No. The Obamas are not playing the race card. But, Leon, you sure are. What do you have against people of color?
Or, is this just one of the cards in your swift boat hand of slime?

HusseinsPerfectExcuse wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:34 AM:Everytime Hussein is asked a question on virtually any subject, and he doesnt know how to respond, he plays the ever present race card. Soon, even those who went to public school will reject that game

Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:37 AM:>>Wrong! Less than 15 percent have no health insurance.>>> But they all multiple cell phones, $200 Nike's, a PS3, and wireless internet for porn

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:38 AM:Oh, don't worry about him, James Ciriello. The wrong Rev. Wright is now "retired" into his 10,000 sq. ft. home paid for by the good people of his church. It cost quite a bundle too, as I understand it. Not to worry, the Obama'a gave $27,000.
Drill Here.
Drill Now.
Pay Less.
Employ Americans.

DD Wiz wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:39 AM:The published letter from Joe Parra is right to hold Bush/Cheney/McCain responsible for the utter devastation their policies have wrought, but wrong to make the blanket statement "You voted for this warmonger." I did not and those of us who didn't don't deserve what we got.
And the published letter from Wayne Strache really frosts me. This pseudo liberal campaigned viciously against Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 because they were not sufficiently "pure" in being as fully leftist as he thought they should be, and supported Nader instead. He repeatedly ridiculed those of us who did support these viable candidates who both came within a hair's breadth of taking the White House. As Joe Parra's letter notes, the world would have been a hugely different place today if either of them had won their elections. It is not just those who voted for that warmonger who are responsible, it is people like Strache who vigorously campaigned to divert votes away from the only viable alternatives. "The perfect is the enemy of the good."
So now Strache doesn't even think it is important to stand up for the Civil Rights of our gay and lesbian citizens? The man is a mole for the right wing conservatives.

Obama should be smarter wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:44 AM:than to compare himself to JFK, after all it was JFK that left our allies the Cuban exiles to die in the Bay of Pigs.
Maybe Obama should go back to the history books rather than dissing everybody.

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:45 AM:Now your starting to catch on, Andy Pino!

"career politicians" and 30 years of liberal Democrats running Sacramento.

Karl wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:48 AM:Focal Point
[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:25 AM:

Can you please enlighten us on how one can criticize Barrack Obama without being called a racist? While you're at it how would one go about expressing one's displeasure over the illegal immigration situation?

Thanks in advance for giving us polite objecters an avenue to vent without offending the other side.

Reardon wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:49 AM:(Quote) CBS News – (IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei )The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency said Iran could create a nuclear weapon in six months.

Actually, Cris has a point – Iran is a sovereign country, and has every right to do what Israel and North Korea have done – develop nuclear weaponry.

The votes of the United Nations may make some political impact on nations, but no legal impact – it is all public relations.

So, should we stand by and "let” Iran make nuclear weapons? Should Israel? Should the United Nations?

Well, only if “might makes right.”

Sometimes, it does!

OBAMACAN wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:55 AM:James Ciriello's letter simply perpetuates the same old lies about Rev. Wright.
Sure, he had his faults and focused too much on the negatives.
But he never said he hated America. Ever. He identified problems and wanted to address the problems.
Even his famous (infamous?) "God damn America," when taken in context, is about a loving God who stands up against the aspects of America's legacy such as slavery, intolerance and unjustified war, but leads her lovingly back to the better angels of our nature.
The "damnation" referred to is a religious reference in a religious sermon, and refers to the stern confrontation against sin while holding out the promise of repentance and redemption.
Of course, the 10-second sound clip never shows that, does it?

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:55 AM:Let's work together to see if we can find any logic here, Thomas Arnold.

How can a city spend $70 million on a golf course that's bleeding $1 million a year in red ink, and then quibble over a Desal plant?

Nope, not see'n any.

Build Here.
Build Now.
Go Desal!

One or the other wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:00 AM:I see James Dobson is declaring that Obama has a "fruitcake" version of the Bible in his head. Brilliant remark that, mixing criticism of Obama, reassurance to his flock that their Christianity is the true one, and a dash of soothing homophobia in one sentence. So this will be a theme: half the slimers will say Obama is Muslim, the other half will say he's the wrong kind of Christian. It's so generous of God and Jesus to be willing to be used by these folks for their political ends, isn't it?

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:05 AM:>>>I'm tired of all the hate filled & lie filled e-mails about Obama.>>>
Yeah, all put out by the Clinton's.

Yokozuna wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:08 AM:We keep seeing on these posts the oil vs. renewable sources debate as if they're mutually exclusive. However, we need to have both. It will take years before we have the advantages of both arguments. Why is it being touted as only one or the other? Let's address 1) increasing renewable sources and well as 2) increasing domestic oil production even though demand will decrease for the latter. The real danger will continue to be that we are not self sufficient in both these needed sources.

To Hussein wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:21 AM:Thank You, I have been on the fence in this election over the two candidates, However, Thanks to you and others like you with your constant Haussein this and Hussain that. Well, Call it what ever you want, I don't care, But I do not pray to Mecca and I do not live in the Middle East. You have pushed me right off of the Obama side of the bleachers. I won't spend the next four hearing "Hussein is so handsome".

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:22 AM:HusseinsPerfectExcuse[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:34 Kind of interesting. Please give exact examples of the race card being played as well as the questions that Obama could not answer?

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:23 AM:Do you get it now[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:06 AM: And, most of them are graduates from the most prestigious law school from Regent's University. LOL.

Hussein wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:27 AM:Oder in the house[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:02 AM: And that is how one answers the obvious swift boat lies and allegations posted by people probably like you. When notified of your tactics, you attack the messenger. But it is people of your ilk and lack of mind that are guilty of being pathetic with your disdain and hatred of man simply because he just don't fit your ideological mold and philosophy. ...

To oder in the house wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:42 AM:Currently in the White House their is a foul odor of blood. The blood dripping from the hands of George W. for engaging us in an illegal war. The blood of American's who have lost their lives over there and the blood of innocent Iraqi's he is reponsible for killing.

I Do Declare wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:45 AM:It seems we have had to endure several posts from Obamacan over the past few weeks, doing nothing but getting all wiggee while defending statements Obama or his camp made, I do declare,Obamacan is Obama's offical PR defense attorney. Not much new, Just defend, rephrase and sugarcoat what was already said.

Asteroid wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:59 AM:Re: Paul Robert's letter today. In case you're not familiar with Mr. Vandoorn, he's about as far out on the left fringe as one could possibly get. Liberals don't offer solutions because they have none, it's not their nature. They just complain and expect big government to make everything better; which of course seldom happens, which only leads to even more complaining. It's the insanity cycle of liberalism.

OBAMACAN wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:03 AM:The blog at 9:44 a.m. criticizes Obama for comparing himself to JFK.
As usual, this blogger is not smart enough to get it right.
Obama did not compare himself to JFK.
That comparison was made by JFK's own daughter, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, promptly echoed by Ted Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy.

And "Declare" at 10:45 a.m. is doing nothing but getting all wiggee because someone comes to this blog and writes their opinion. This is the essence of the Republican slime machine:
1. Shut everyone else up.
2. Slime the other guy but whine about anyone who responds.
3. Can't find one single good thing to say about your own flip-flopping candidate.
Thanks for proving my point!

To Hussein wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:05 AM:Hussein
[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:27 AM: And that my simple minded friend is why this is America, You call it hatred because someone disagrees with you, Fine, If you are from the middle east ( and I am not convinced you are) then that's how you were raised, But not here! I can tell you how I feel, Just like you are doing. Unlike your handsome Husseins last known place of residence.

to Karl wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:11 AM:Solution: let Israel offer to scuttle all its nuclear weapons if Iran gives up the program. Let the US support this deal by agreeing to pull its troops out of Iraq and its nuclear-armed warships out of the Gulf. Fair is fair, after all. Deal?

Oder in the house wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:16 AM:To: 10:42AM, I hate to burst your bubble, but I agree with your statement, I was talking to Hussein on another topic altogether, Why do some people think you have to be in "love" with the name Hussein in order to support Obama? It simply is NOT true. Answer that one.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:17 AM:To Hussein[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:21 AM: If you were paying attention with your eyes instead of your prejudices, you could easily see that this was a cap on the use of the name, Hussein, constantly by Chuck.
You were never for Obama. That is easily seen by your retort about Muslims and Mecca. You stated or threated loss of your vote for Obama is an outright lie. You have absolutely no veracity. Therefore, your opinion is worthless.

Man o Man wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:19 AM:Obama should be smarter Obama has been compared to JFK. Obama, himself, has never compared himself to JFK. Do you anti Obamamaites have an IQ at all.

Ralphs wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:19 AM:To Harriet Bledsoe - Why is that when you had the majority of Wood, Sanchez and Mackin everything was just hunky dory. Now that the shoe is on the other foot you don't like it. Stop whinning and do what the rest of us do, live within the boundaries that we are given.

Apollo wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:20 AM:Re: Karl (9:48 a.m.)
You ask: "how one can criticize Barrack Obama without being called a racist?"
Answer: Challenge him on issues instead of pretending he doesn't have extensive specific proposals, or attacking him based on false rumors about his background or holding him responsible for what others say. Defend your guy instead of passing along rumors that any well-read person knows to be false.

to Obamacan wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:22 AM:OBAMACAN
[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:03 AM:And "Declare" at 10:45 a.m. is doing nothing but getting all wiggee because someone comes to this blog and writes their opinion. Obamacan, I would Love to read an "original" opinion from you, and not some reworked rehash, That's what I have been waiting for. Thats all.

Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:25 AM:Karl[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 9:48 AM:
Hi Karl. Let us get to the important stuff first. What was the score out on the green's today? It is my observation that you a classy guy and a polite person. If I were against Obama, I would not be evening race, creeds, religion, heritage or his name. I would be approaching it on his record or lack of record, his speeches, his public opinion, plan or lack of plan and his vision or lack of vision for this country. Illegal immigration for me is not a racial issue. It is a legal issue and an international issue as well. Doesn't matter what your race, creed, heritage, language or gender is. If you crossed the international border into the USA without a passport or a visa, you are an invader, should be apprehended and deported. Regards to Karl. FP

Cluck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:36 AM:>>>>Four Americans, six Iraqis killed in Baghdad bomb blast AFP
Two GIs among six dead in Sadr City blast United Press International>>>

That should keep the liberals giddy for a few days"

Actually, no. Just like Charlie Black says any terrorist attack is an advantage for McCain. OOPS. He's just saying out loud what all these filthy conservatives have felt since their favorite day in history; 9/11. Since then they have cornered the market on fear, pushed this country to the brink of ruin economically, socially, morally, all in the name of making a buck. Osama Bin Laden has been the greatest marketing tool the Republican party has had since they coined the term "Family Values". However, once people realized they had no values they needed to step it up a notch. And people feign shock when a top advisor for McCain speaks the truth about how the feel a terrorist attack would benefit their campaign. LOL. Is there any doubt why conservatism is dead in this country?

Alf wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:39 AM:Well, "Roberto" at 6:17AM, while it is your right to vote for whoever you wish, please consider the wisdom (or lack thereof) in voting for someone who wants to continue the same downward spiral as GWB. Ask yourself, are the over 4,100 DEAD American Troops better off than in 2002? Is the economy better off than in 2002? Do you want the decline that GWB has foisted off onto us to continue? If the answer to any of those is yes, then vote McGWB. If the answer is no to all of them, vote for someone else. Regards, Alf.

Wow Apollo wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:46 AM:Your reply to Karl is so, um, sane! It seems beyond most Americans to take your advice. Look at what Obama specifically says about an issue. Look at what McCain specifically says about that issue. Compare and contrast. Who'da ever thought of approaching candidates this way? It might even be more informative than looking at each one's middle name, or sicking the FauxNewshounds to find a phrase that they can transform into a big story! Great advice! I hope Karl takes it!

Reardon wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:49 AM:The liberals favorite former head of the liberals favorite organization, Kofi Annan, spoke to the Global Humanitarian Forum, and let the cat out of the bag a bit early.

“Rich countries” (Read the U.S.) must share their wealth with “poor countries” (read all Third World countries) by bearing the brunt of the changes necessary to fight “Global Warming.”

Been there, done that. It was called Kyoto, and it was defeated 95-0 by the Senate, including uber-leftist Ted Kennedy.

Now, admittedly times have changed, The Democrats now have as a candidate the most liberal Senator available, even to the left of Uncle Teddy (and not nearly as experienced), so Kofi may get his wish.

Meanwhile Obama not only supports but offered a Senate Bill (S. 2433: Global Poverty Act of 2007) to send EXTRA HUNDREDS of BILLIONS a year to the UN for "world poverty."

Global Warming energy caps on rich nations but not on poor, and more money for the UN for global poverty -- either way it is income redistribution as practiced internally by Democrats, or worldwide by the UN.

"Mr. Obama, please meet Mr. Annan -- Oh, I see you already know each other."

Ms M wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:53 AM:to Obamacan
[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:22 AM:Obamacan, I would Love to read an "original" opinion from you, and not some reworked rehash, That's what I have been waiting for. Thats all....You know maybe you would get some new stuff from Obamacan if the bloggers would write something different other than the "same tired negative hash" that is written about Obama on this blog. That's all.

Two biggies wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:55 AM:Earlier today we had a post that shows that Bush/Cheney used the Justice Dept as an arm of the Republican party. We also had a post that shows how the goal of the Iraq invasion was imperialistic. These two things are of enormous importance. And here we are talking about someone's middle name. The idea of the informed American citizen must be completely obsolete. We don't deserve democracy. Maybe we should have a king, but please, can it be one with a brain and a conscience and a heart for a change?

To Focal Point wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:57 AM:On Jun 24, 2008 11:17 AM: You have lost focus Focal Point. Don't you dare tell me who I am leaning towards. You don't know me, or my mind set, or what I have been through. People don't fall into just two convenient categories for you to judge. Life is more complicated than that! I have experienced loss thanks to Saddam and his little boys. My point was, Obama is not Muslim, Right? So stop throwing away potential votes(like mine), by shoving that name down our throats. I, just like perhaps countless other Americans equate the name Hussein with Saddam. That was his name! Get ovet it. And I don't want to think of Saddam every time I look at Obama. Can you understand and that?

Surfer wrote on Jun 24, 2008 11:59 AM:Ron[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 10:05 AM: Dude. Which one of the bloggers is Clinton? I didn't know she was here. Hillary, what is your handle? See ya!

sdraoul wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:07 PM:It is hard to criticize Obama without being called a racist because race is pure and simple the basis for Obama's campaign. Look at what they did to the first "Black President" Mr. Clinton.

Geraldine Ferraro -- Obama wouldn't be where he is if he were white. Obama's campaigners-- Ferraro is a racist.

Any critic of Jeremiah Wright for hsi anti-American views that were bandied about for 20 years in front of Obama is called a racist because Rev. Wright really doesn't hate America.

Yes, he does. Obama refused to rid himself of Wright until the heat grew then he did.

He informed the world that his grandmother had racist views, probably expressed by use of the "N" word then threw her under the bus.

He glides over the fact that his white middle class college educated mother figured out how to "game" the system by collecting food stamps when poor people had tougher and harder times. Was she guilty of fraud?

Obamacan will demand to know on what dates his mother "gamed" the system and possibly committed welfare fraud but she doesn't have to believe me, it is in his book an autobiography written by his Angelic self.

Lastly, when anyone reads that someone says they voted for Bush and are now going to vote for Obama, don't believe them. Especialyl when they call the war "illegal." It was not and is not.

It was sanctioned by the Congress of the United Sattes and the United Nations for Sadaam's not living up to 14 separate U.N. resolutions. Force was authorized by an overwhelming vote in both the House and Senate.

No intelleigent person can declare the Iraq war illegal when the Congress of the United States voted to authorize force by the President. There is no argument.

If anyone declares that Bush lied, they are liars for the President didn't "game" intelligence that was provided to him by the CIA. Remember "Slam Dunk."

McCain: "I don't see immediate relief" about the gas problem. Isn't that truth? But he has recommended tax holidays, more exploration, more production and more refineries and, more importantly, more nuclear power and other alternative energy production such as yanking the punitive tariffs on sugar cane ethanol that Obama voted for.

Obama protects corn farmers in Illinois and Iowa while sugar cane ethanol costs less than half what Obama stands for so he can get farm votes and campaign dollars.

These are long term solutions that Obama fights.

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:08 PM:What? No takers on Ray Russell's plan?

"I am proposing that they build wind generators along the coast, thereby having the power generated where it is needed."

It's clean energy! Think of all the electric cars we could plug in?

Alf wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:15 PM:There you go again, "Chuck" at 7:52AM, dealing with the devil starhucks. That stuff will cause warts. Regards, Alf.

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:18 PM:I voted for public financing of my campaign, before I voted against it.
- Barack Obama

Ron wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:23 PM:Wizzer @ 9:39 AM:
"And the published letter from Wayne Strache really frosts me. This pseudo liberal... The man is a mole for the right wing conservatives."

LOL, go get em Wiz! LOL...........

Drill Here.
Drill Now.
Pay Less.

Reardon wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:31 PM:Yokozuna: I am certain you have noticed who the naysayers are.

The conservatives do not oppose wind power, solar power. geothermal power, etc.

It is liberals who oppose nuclear power, drilling, transmission lines, desal water, (fill in the blank.)

Liberals have designed a two layer line of defense. The first is, "Hey, I don't oppose (enter one single item here."

The second line of defense is "I support (fill in an item or two here), but it must be done in an environmentally sensitive manner." ("And there is no way in hell you can find sufficient environmental controls to satisfy me!")

Politically, it is brilliant. At least until the people catch on, and then it is pitchfork and torch time, amidst heating of tar and plucking of feathers. That depends upon pain – as in Prop. 13, and the aborted Shamnesty Bill.

The longer politicians hold out amidst the rising anger, the rougher it will be for them -- most politicians are smart enough to moderate early, but some are not.

hardtack wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:35 PM:Someone said: “Politics is sport for old guys.” That seems apt. Some of you defend your political partisanship like European soccer fans brawling over colors.
It’s: “our guys vs. there guys.”
It’s: “our guy is Santa Clause – their guy is Scrooge”
Adults need to stop believing in Santa Clause at some point in their lives, or the country is screwed, no matter whose “guy” gets elected.
Read “Human Action” (Ludwig von Mises - 1949)
Get a copy.
Read it now.
Read “The Road to Surfdom” (F. A. Hayek - 1944)
Get a copy.
Read it now.

Alf wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:38 PM:Well, "Reardon" at 9:49AM, you ask "So, should we stand by and "let” Iran make nuclear weapons? Should Israel? Should the United Nations?", my answer is "yes, but...". The "but" is that the U.S. is pretty damned arrogant (falsely and delusionally so, I might add), it is not the be all and end all and not the country which decides what other countries may or may not do within their borders, despite what some would have people believe. More and more it is becoming obvious that the U.S. has achieved a "rogue nation" status ("Shock and Awe" and occupying a nation that did not even threaten us, let alone actually attack us), GWB is the most recent and most vicious president so far and McGWB wants to carry on in the same fashion. Regards, Alf.

Concerned One wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:42 PM:Surfer, I won't hold my breath for the hydrogen fuel cell, but I do admit they make zero emmissions. So do electric cars. I'm liking the hybrids. Like Yokozuna said, we need both alternative energy and good old oil in the near future to survive. Another big south on the way dude. Get ready for some free energy. Regards, C-1.

Chris to Nick wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:50 PM:You say that we don't target the innocent. That may be true, except look at what happened in Haditha and don't try to weasel out of it. On 60 minutes it was brought out that we have people that follow someone we want to kill and it is up to a group to determine if there will be too much collateral damage in taking out the target. When asked how many innocents it is acceptable to take our along with the target the person being interviewed said that it is acceptable to kill 30 innocent people in trying to take out the target. Asked how many innocent people were killed the person said 200. Asked how many targets were taken out the answer was none. The problem is that our military has far more firepower than any muslims have and the fact is that we just don't give a damn about how many innocents we kill. Period. We started this war and we have killed and maimed more innocents than Hussein did in his intire reign. The civil unrest is the result of what we did. Now for you to excuse what we did by talking about what someone else does is disengenuous at best. Now it is estemated that we killed 3 million in Vietnam. Many of the deaths committed in other countries are the result of our support for the butchers who did the killing. Just check out Indonesia and the invasion of east timor. The blood that Suharto spilt is on our hands. You know about the Indians. The US has been involved in more killings in our short history than any other country. So as far as what I have said I still stand by it and in no way do I concider it WAY OUT THERE.

Alf wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:50 PM:How dare Wayne Strache actually point out those other "minor irritants", those distractions from what will tear the U.S. asunder? "Gay" marriage will not send over 4,100 American Troops to their deaths in Iraq like GWB did. "Gay" marriage will not send the economy into a tailspin like GWBs "War on Terror" has done. So, obviously, "Gay" marriage must get people all riled up and demand that "the will of the people" be obeyed in the courts while "the will of the people" (over 70 percent) in the U.S. and "the will of the people" in Iraq about getting the U.S. out of Iraq need not be obeyed. Strange priorities indeed. Regards, Alf.

Alf wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:54 PM:Well, "Yokozuna" at 10:08AM, you are right. We seem to have too many "either/or" people and not enough "both" people. Regards, Alf.

OBAMACAN wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:54 PM:Totally hilarious to see someone sign a blog as "To Obamacan" (11:22 a.m.) whining about anyone else being original.

Alf wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:57 PM:I see that "Karl" survived this weekend. Regards, Alf.

Chris to Chuck wrote on Jun 24, 2008 1:04 PM:I guess that if those GIs weren't in Sadr city they wouldn't have been killed. Now of course the reason they are in Sadr city is to squash the opposition to our puppet government.

Bill Too wrote on Jun 24, 2008 1:11 PM:(Not to be confused with Bill One) Playing catch-up again. Seems like I never have enough time to answer all the blogs – unlike some of the regulars who seem to have nothing else to do. Here are some of my pet peeves for today.

Some of the bloggers (who will remain unnamed) seem to have an obsession with NOT raising taxes – especially for the wealthy. I have a suggestion. Lets establish a FLAT TAX – I mean a REAL flat tax on ALL INCOME from WHATEVER source (including income from investments, interest, stocks, bonds, etc) over a minimum of $25,000 – NO EXCUSES – NO DEDUCTIONS for ANYTHING – PERIOD – on all income made in this country. NO exemptions for residence or corporate headquarters offshore. You Make the money here you pay tax here. Corporations should have a limitation on allowable company expenses of say 10% of their income to cover all things such as executive salaries, advertising, etc. This would preclude the obscene salaries some company executives are paid and ensure that the money was used for bettering the company. With this program I can foresee that the annual Federal tax rate would be approximately 5% FOR EVERYONE and we would have enough tax income to pay off the National Debt within the lifetime of the current taxpayers – NOT our great-great grandchildren.

Some bloggers still want us to impeach Bush – are they crazy? That would make Cheney President. Do we really want HIM to have his finger on the trigger?

The topic of abortion is again slipping into the Blog – we already have a program of EXTREMELY late term abortion in effect - it is called the “War in Iraq.” We are killing off (and maiming) our young men – and also helping with the world over-population problem. Isn’t that REALLY what wars are all about?

I see regular comments about “The polls show…” Have any of you ever taken any of the top named polls? I have participated in a number of the Gallup Polls. There are a number of choices listed for each question, with no space for alternate entries. A blank entry is not counted as a vote against – only checked blocks are counted. The answers are programmed by the results desired by the company or group that PAYS to have the poll taken. It is entirely possible to have a million questionnaires submitted and have only ONE block checked with the others blank to give a result of 100% approval of that question. I have no faith in polls.

Ms M wrote on Jun 24, 2008 1:20 PM:Ron
[-] wrote on Jun 24, 2008 12:18 PM:I voted for public financing of my campaign, before I voted against it.
- Barack Obama

The following posted on "First Read":
With so much attention on Obama's reversal on public financing, liberal bloggers like Arianna Huffington and Josh Marshall have wondered why McCain's own apparent flip flop on the subject hasn't received as much scrutiny.

Well the Democratic National Committee is trying to change that by filing a lawsuit in US District Court in DC to force the Federal Election Commission to investigate McCain's decision to opt in the public matching funds system for the primaries, secure a loan based on those public funds, and then withdraw from the system after becoming the GOP front-runner. McCain, though, never actually received those public funds before opting out.

"The chairman of the FEC," the lawsuit states, "has already advised Sen. McCain that he is not free to withdraw unilaterally from his agreement with the FEC and to ignore the legal requirements of the Matching Payments Act, without the FEC's approval. Yet Sen. McCain cannot obtain such approval, because he already violated a key condition for dispensing with the Agreement by which he entered the matching funds program: he has pledged matching funds as collateral for a loan to his campaign."

Had McCain not opted out of the matching funds program, he would be limited in how much he can raise and spend up until the GOP convention -- which would put him at an enormous disadvantage against Obama's fundraising machine.

Seems like your guy McFlipFlopper has a problem in the area.....um....

Reardon wrote on Jun 24, 2008 1:24 PM:Alf: Aside from taking my query as a jumping off point to reflexively bash GWB, you didn’t answer the question. You said, “Yes, but…’ The “but” was your usual tired Chri-like tirade, but without specific inference to Iran.

We “let’ North Korea develop the nuclear bomb (actually Madam Halfbright did), and we have spent untold treasure in trying to get them to put the Genie back in the bottle – without success. If they use it, many people will shoulder the blame.

I doubt ‘we” will do anything with Iran, but I suspect that Israel will not ‘let” it happen – we are not threatened, but certainly we have the resources to stop Iran without committing troops, or occupying their country.

But I will accept your opinion that we should “let” Iran have their nuclear weaponry since the “but” part was unintelligible insofar as Iran was concerned. Your opinion is as valid a