MILITARY: Marine sniper cleared of manslaughter charges

General orders case dismissed against Sgt. John 'Johnny' Winnick II

By MARK WALKER - Staff Writer | Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:56 PM PDT

Sgt. John Winnick II (File Photo by Bill Wechter - Staff Photographer)

CAMP PENDLETON ---- Manslaughter and dereliction of duty charges have been dropped against a Marine sniper accused of wrongfully killing two men he suspected were planting a roadside bomb in Iraq last year.

The dismissal of charges against Iraq war veteran Sgt. John "Johnny" Winnick II of San Diego was ordered this week by Camp Pendleton's Lt. Gen. Samuel Helland, head of the base's I Marine Expeditionary Force.

Helland's action came after a hearing officer who presided over a two-day investigative hearing into the circumstances of the incident recommended the charges be dismissed.

"In light of all the circumstances, the commanding general of I MEF had determined that Sgt. Winnick's actions do not warrant referral to court-martial," said Marine Corps spokesman Mike Alvarez.

The dismissal is the latest in a series of favorable rulings for Camp Pendleton Marines accused of unlawful killings in Iraq.

Winnick's father, John Winnick Sr., said he was "overjoyed" to learn that his son will not face further prosecution in the incident that took place in the Anbar province on June 17 last year.

"It shows justice truly does exist in our system," he said. "Johnny is an excellent Marine and a man of integrity who was just doing his job."

Gary Solis, a former Marine prosecutor and judge who teaches military law at Washington's Georgetown University, said the Winnick case stands out from others because of the testimony during the hearing that showed he had reason to believe the men were involved in planting a roadside bomb.

"It boils down to a judgment call of what constitutes positive identity on the part of a Marine who has to make a split-second decision versus what a commander may later assess," Solis said during a telephone interview. "Lacking clear-cut evidence of wrongdoing, do we really want to send a Marine to trial?

"You have to wonder how a case like this got this far," Solis continued. "Sometimes, it seems like the Marine Corps is eating its young."

Winnick was leading a sniper team near a Marine outpost in an area that had been hit with two roadside bomb attacks. As he and his five men watched, two vehicles drove up and the men inside got out of the vehicles and appeared to prepare the surface of the roadway for a bomb, according to undisputed testimony.

Shortly after those vehicles departed, an 18-wheel semitrailer stopped at the same spot. The driver got out, according to testimony, crawled under the truck and appeared to place a bomb on the roadway. At that point, Winnick fired at the man, killing him. His men also began firing at the truck and three other men who emerged from its two-seat cab.

As Winnick and another Marine ran up to the truck, a second man who had been wounded was crawling toward a cell phone, prompting Winnick to fatally wound him with a shotgun blast, according to the testimony.

A search of the truck cab and cursory search of the trailer did not turn up any weapons, bomb-making material or shovels. Testimony showed that the truck went unguarded and disappeared within a day.

The dereliction charge alleged that Winnick had failed to follow the rules of engagement requiring positive identification.

Capt. Oliver Dreger, an intelligence officer for Camp Pendleton's 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment that included Winnick's platoon, testified the squad had been sufficiently briefed on the rules of engagement.

But much of the hearing focused on confusion about those rules. The platoon commander, Lt. Dominic Corabi, testified that snipers had no clear understanding about when they could shoot a suspected insurgent at long range. Senior commanders, he said, were unable to define terms such as "hostile intent" and "positive identification."

The charges were dismissed without prejudice, meaning they could be refiled if new evidence comes to light.

Contact staff writer Mark Walker at (760) 740-3529 or mlwalker@nctimes.com.

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sweet wrote on Jul 24, 2008 9:43 PM:about time, he never shoud've been charged

DESERT BUG wrote on Jul 25, 2008 2:08 AM:"Solis continued. "Sometimes, it seems like the Marine Corps is eating its young." Oh yeah, it sure does. " It boils down to a judgment call of what constitutes positive identity on the part of a Marine who has to make a split-second decision versus what a commander may later assess," Solis said." Well boy howdy now ain't that the truth?!!! That applies to ALL of these politically staged persecutions of some damn good Marines.

Marine wrote on Jul 25, 2008 5:41 AM:He did what he did. But it was an accident...Sort of. When you are a marine leading a group of men, it puts you under pressure to act in a second and do the right thing. It's just a mistake and It's great for him the charges are off.

Wishful thinking wrote on Jul 25, 2008 7:57 AM:How I wish the same courts would try police officers in the United States who "accidentally" shoot "innocent people". Of course, this is the United States and this incident occurred in Iraq. I guess I'm just being a hypocrite but apparently it really doesn't matter who we shoot as long as it's not in our backyard.

Been there..Done that wrote on Jul 25, 2008 9:29 AM:I have a keen interest in the people that bring charges against the Marines in these situations. One of the main culprits, as to how these "hero's" are charged, are the girls at NCIS. Their reports are so slanted and often opinionated that any lawyer would be able to prosecute. One outstanding example is the USS Iowa explosion in April 1989. In this case the girls concluded that expolsion was the result of a gay relationship gone bad between two crew members. The actual reason was excessive black powder being used in the breeching block exploding in the 16 " guns. I have seen many times in my military career the absolute lies and non factual statements of NCIS reports. They have the credibility of Bill Clinton. As far as Sgt Winnick goes hold a meritorious mast for him advancing him to Staff Sgt. Invite the girls from NCIS too and point out this is what we think of your lies and mistatements in your reports. Long live Sgt. Winnick and the other HERO"S at Camp Pendleton.

To Sgt Winnick USMC wrote on Jul 25, 2008 9:38 AM:You are a true Marine and American Hero. My heart goes out to you for all
that you have endured in this matter. I would only hope that you stay TRUE to yourself and the Corps. I would go to war with you anytime. You are the epitome of a damn GOOD MARINE. Without saying...SEMPER FI...

Prospective Thinker wrote on Jul 25, 2008 10:29 AM:One side angle of this story is the matter of being Politically Correct. This term (which I absolutely deplore)
comes into play when making split second decisions on the battlefield. Due to the "acceptibility" of being PC our Marines are at a greater risk. Should I shoot or should I be shot? This is what the people on the front lines are asking themselves due to our
idiotic acceptance of being PC. When it comes down to the real "nitty gritty"
would you pause due to the PC factor?
All people who I observe being PC are liars. They are so because this is not how they really feel. They just want to take on the image of a "do gooder". To bad that the enemy can't be trained to be PC. FOLKS, STOP THIS RETARDED WAY OF THOUGHT AND DO THE RIGHT THING INSTEAD OF THINKING YOU ARE WRONG...

Chris wrote on Jul 25, 2008 12:04 PM:Just more dead Iraqis. Who cares. Appearently the military doesn't. Let's just see if this gets posted. Only people that gush over our Marines gets posted.

Bill One wrote on Jul 25, 2008 12:47 PM:That is really good news.

AWcryinoutloud wrote on Jul 25, 2008 1:36 PM:My first thought was Sgt. Winnick's Mom. Her poem about her son came from a love so strong you could feel the strength that Sgt. Winnick would surely draw from it. A prayer answered. God Bless this Marine and his family.

Asteroid wrote on Jul 26, 2008 2:12 AM:Chris has never met a Marine he didn't think was a murderer or a terrorist he didn't admire. Semper Fi Sgt. Winnick; I'd like to by you and your team a beer some day.

Chris wrote on Jul 27, 2008 8:31 PM:I'm sorry. I was wrong again. Thanks for the freedom you provide me.

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