Accented Rage wrote on Jul 25, 2008 9:39 PM:Miss with the accent: too much drama can be a bad thing when speaking in public. If you have a problem with EUSD shutting down a charter school, just say so. Your reaction to EUSD's proposed plan would have others believe it's on scale with Pacific Station down the street. Take it down a notch.

What does King want wrote on Jul 25, 2008 9:44 PM:Development is not Kings job...district training center...what? How much revenue are they going to earn on this undisclosed site. Reagan is quoted saying they will get $500,000 per year in revenues for the district. Where the heck is a site in Encinitas that will produce that kind of revenues in a time of real estate excess?

SOMETHING DOESN'T ADD UP!

Does King have any idea what he is doing?

He's wasting 100's of thousands of taxpayer $$$. Our kids will sadly bear the burden of this catastrophe!

To Accented Rage wrote on Jul 25, 2008 10:42 PM:Are you aware the Pacific View Commons site is 2.8 acres of (almost) ocean front property. Pacific Station is 1.6 acres 3-4 bolcks removed from the ocean. If King gets the third degree it's because he deserves it based on the FACT that he is spending Taxpayer (my guess 4-6 hundred thousand dollars) money for a site he may never be able to re-zone. Ask for the documents, it's adding up quickly. Ms. Snow alone makes $150.00 per hour as the "Property Consultant." Not to mention all the other consultants.

The parents of Gifted (or children who are taught with gifted education teaching strategies) children do their own homework. Maybe you should care a little more about what's happening in this little city of Encinitas. Instead of caring about if someone has an accent! I think she sounded great!

King dont know... wrote on Jul 25, 2008 11:04 PM:Development is not King's job for sure. That's why he has hired professionals that are familiar with the various aspects of planning, development, commercial/residential real estate, and real estate law. Duh...

PV Donation wrote on Jul 26, 2008 5:52 AM:Wasn't this parcel of land donated to EUSD many years ago and was to be used for educational purposes? Those of us that live in Encintas deserve better. This land should somehow be used to better the youth in the community, as it orignial intent when given to the school district. If the original owners of the land had EUSD's attitude, it would be developed already. Instead, they saw a greater good for the piece of property. Could we at least try to honor their wishes? Condos, office space, medical buildings,... are not what they had in mind.

BOB wrote on Jul 26, 2008 6:45 AM:Schoolhouse Park has a nice ring to it.

If EUSD is not going to use the Pacific View School grounds for a school. They must first offer to Encinitas first under the Naylor act.

Zoned for public use it should remain as a public use space.

Bob got it wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:44 AM:Get the land for free for a school. Close the school. Rezone the area to steal the land and sell for a profit. In the interest of the children of course.

To King dont know wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:40 AM:King definately doesn't know and neither do his Consultants and that's why they fell flat on their face Thursday night.

By the way folks, I got the expenditure reports from EUSD ...the "expert Consultants" have cost the taxpayers $409,000 so far on that genius plan that will end up in the circular file.

By the way, they cherry picked all the Consultants...so much for the public "RFP" process...Duh...

Shocked wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:32 AM:Oh My!!!!!!

EGO...the path to ignorance wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:35 AM:Ignorance and egos...that got in the way for the charter school now King is showing his ignorance and ego. I wonder if anyone will give him a chance to explain his actions or can we just be the judge and jury too?

To Accented Rage wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:40 AM:Take it down a notch...let's see...2.8 acres of almost ocean front property that belongs to the taxpayers or 1.6 acres that belongs to private developers. Which do you think is more important here? I think she sounded quite educated! Parents of Gifted children understand the depth and complexity of the issues.

Zephon wrote on Jul 26, 2008 11:00 AM:The biggest problem with new development at such a large scale like this is traffic and parking.

With 101, Birmingham, Encinitas Blvd and Santa Fe as the ingress and egress routes for this devlopment - these streets are already too crowded with vehicles, many not even going to or from a destination in Encinitas. This is why we have had so many traffic fatalities on these streets that were designed long ago and they have not kept up with safety.

People risk their lives unessarily on these streets whether you drive or walk.

Let's make sure the infrastructure goes in before more development!

Besides a park in this location sounds much better for the community than a new office park and condos.

Shoe on Kings other foot wrote on Jul 26, 2008 11:34 AM:Oh, King feels "disappointed" because he was "working with the community" and now they're rejecting his proposal? You mean, you thought you did everything the community asked of you to get them to agree to your proposal? And now perhaps you feel like they haven't been listening to a word you've said and they would have rejected your proposal no matter what you did to try to remedy their objections? It somehow seems divinely poetic to me.

To TIP Revengers wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:11 PM:Wow, all this energy to stick it to a school superintendent because things didn't go your way. And this is only elementary school! Imagine what will happen to anyone who dares cross you in middle school, high school, and (when the stakes get really high) college!

truth wrote on Jul 26, 2008 2:04 PM:Now, you see the city politics at its best. in today's article in UT, "Councilwomen Maggie Houlihan and Teresa Barth said they weren't briefed on the Naylor Act and called for a public discussion."

“All the cards should be on the table,” Houlihan said. “All the facts and appropriate laws that have a bearing on the decision should be out there for public scrutiny.”

Well, going back to April 2006, councilwoman Houlihan actually suggested to purchase the Pacific View property (by Angela Lau). As an elected official with a city manger with exprience in public education (San Juan Capistrano Unified)background,and a city attorney is very irresponsible to claim that they didn't know.
Let all cards be on the table! Including the ones that are pulling for the charter school!

miss accented wrote on Jul 26, 2008 2:12 PM:Funny someone mentioned the accented miss! This tells you how desperate the charter school is trying survive!Isn't she one of the involved former board members of TIP Academy that is being revoked?

Zephon wrote on Jul 26, 2008 2:17 PM:And now we find out about the Naylor Act. A state law that requires a school district to sell district property to the city first at a reduced price.

Our city council, and the selected reviewers were not aware of this act according to recent statements. This was a similar issue in Del Mar with their elementary school on the coast.

Seems like King was trying to pull a fast one on the community and make us look like chumps with a land swap with the developer. Trying to avoid the Naylor act.

Nix this project now if for no other reason than this example of unethical behavior.

TO ZEPHON wrote on Jul 26, 2008 3:37 PM:hey before you pull a fast one read the article in UT in April 29, 2006 by angela lau and it tells you that houlihan knew about naylor act when she was suggesting city to buy pacific view!! don't play dumb now!

To accented miss wrote on Jul 26, 2008 6:09 PM:Indeed she is! The TIPsters want revenge and they want to stick it to EUSD. In another year TIP will be a distant memory (nightmare)and these parents will all move on to complain about something else.

To to Zephon wrote on Jul 27, 2008 4:16 PM:Ok so I went online and I found and read the entire April 29, 2006 UT article by Angela Lau and there was no mention of Naylor Act anywhere in it. Why are you lieing?

totozephon wrote on Jul 27, 2008 7:18 PM:then how the heck houlihan was supposed to buy the land? The city manager has public school background, the city attorney should know about the law before the councils open their mouth. you tell me she didn't know what she was talking about? she didn't know what was happening in del mar? if so, then we have a city that is more concern about the name of holidays parade than the issues. ...

Mike A. wrote on Jul 28, 2008 6:40 AM:I can smell the lawsuits already.

Zephon wrote on Jul 28, 2008 7:42 AM:Thanks NT censors again for not posting my latest response to those that want to twist my last statement.

Way to go!

Encinitas wrote on Jul 28, 2008 10:44 AM:is just a small burg pretending to be city. Funny place it is.

NT censors wrote on Jul 28, 2008 2:22 PM:Same here, Zephon, I've tried 3 posts replying to "TIP revengers" that haven't gotten through. No idea what they're objecting to.

Quail Gardens wrote on Jul 28, 2008 4:01 PM:Residents of the Quail Gardens developments – watch out – it’s you next.
EUSD are sitting on the 5 acres given to them by the original developers to build a school site there. As you all know, EUSD reneged on that deal. Now they have the property and will soon (if they haven’t already) have to start paying taxes on it (they can have it for 5 years before paying taxes). So I wonder what EUSD want to do with it…? Offer it to the city – doubtful – won’t generate them enough $$$, so perhaps another shady real estate deal. Come on EUSD – what are your plans for the Quail Gardens site – let’s have some transparency here.

TIP revengers wrote on Jul 28, 2008 4:35 PM:Funny... Some of you obviously have no clue so you make a scape-goat out of a school that you happened to dislike.

Grow up already and learn something about politics. Especially your own.

TIP Using FUD to Hurt School District wrote on Jul 28, 2008 5:25 PM:According to Wikipedia, "FUD—Fear Uncertainty and Doubt—is a strategic attempt to influence public perception by disseminating negative (and vague) information."

TIPsters are using this strategy to turn people against EUSD to punish it for charging their charter school with violating laws of conflict of interest, corporate malfeasance, Brown Act, etc. (See Quail Gardens, and most comments on this and other NCT boards.)

TIP has never denied the allegations against them, and have never apologized to the people of Encinitas for their misuse of taxpayers money.

Instead, it appears, they want to use FUD to scare residents with unsubstantiated and hypothetical accusations that mirror those against them.

to quail garden wrote on Jul 28, 2008 6:09 PM:EUSD should trade the land and buy the area around accented miss and build a mansion!