OCEANSIDE: In clash with Minutemen, Caltrans fights on

State agency files response to lawsuit, demands jury trial

By CRAIG TENBROECK - Staff Writer | Friday, July 25, 2008 6:13 PM PDT

OCEANSIDE ---- Caltrans isn't backing down in its legal battle with the San Diego Minutemen, despite a federal judge's assessment last month that the Minutemen's free-speech discrimination lawsuit against the state agency has a "high probability of success."

On Friday, Caltrans filed its formal answer to the lawsuit, demanding a jury trial and denying allegations that Caltrans violated the Minutemen's constitutional rights by removing an Adopt-A-Highway sign bearing the group's name.

Earlier in the day, legal representatives for the Minutemen discussed the case with Caltrans attorneys, said Howard Kaloogian, a former state assemblyman who is representing the anti-illegal immigration group.

"They (Caltrans) indicated that they're going to continue to fight," said Kaloogian, who wasn't at the meeting but was briefed on it by a member of his firm.

"I am shocked that they still don't see the First Amendment issue," he added. "To me it's glaring. It's obvious. To the court it was obvious. And they still don't see it."

The Minutemen sued Caltrans in January after the agency took down the sign and revoked the group's permit to clean up trash near the San Clemente Border Patrol checkpoint.

Caltrans officials said they were concerned about vandalism and confrontations along the busy freeway.

The Minutemen accused the agency of bowing to the group's critics.

Last month, Judge William Q. Hayes issued a preliminary injunction ordering Caltrans to replace the Minutemen's sign and reinstate the permit pending trial.

There is "little, if any, evidence" that the Minutemen's participation in the Adopt-A-Highway program at that location posed a safety hazard, Hayes said.

Caltrans put the sign back on Thursday.

"The Minutemen are free to resume the cleaning of northbound I-5, within their assigned Adopt-a-Highway location," Caltrans spokesman Ed Cartagena said Friday in an e-mail.

The lawsuit is still pending. No hearings have been scheduled.

Jeff Schwilk, founder of the Minutemen, said Friday that he had only seen pictures of the replacement sign but was "thrilled" to see it back.

"We are going to do a cleanup there, eventually," Schwilk said. "Nothing this weekend or anything that soon. But we'll do another cleanup in due time."

Last month, Caltrans announced that it had temporarily stopped processing permits for its Adopt-A-Highway program so that officials could review the program guidelines. The suspension did not affect groups already enrolled in the program.

Contact staff writer Craig TenBroeck at (760) 901-4062 or ctenbroeck@nctimes.com.

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I support Minutemen wrote on Jul 25, 2008 7:18 PM:The Minutemen are correct in this case. A investigation by this paper or other journalistic enterprise into why Caltrans is fighting this is warranted. We know that Sacramento is run by Democrats and liberals, but fighting an organization like the Minutemen that wishes for the laws to be obeyed is highly questionable and suspect.

aztlanbuster wrote on Jul 25, 2008 7:24 PM:Hey Mexico, give up, you lost.

What wrote on Jul 25, 2008 7:24 PM:I thought free speech only applied to the illegal alien apologists. Something must be wrong here. I think it's ironic to note that the Minutemen had to sue to clean the freeway. Shouldn't the illegal alien contingent be setting a positive example by voluntarily doing good things for the community without being asked, instead of constantly threatening lawsuits while undermining the civility of OUR nation? Nope, they're too busy championing the rights of the criminal element. I'm also certain that the ACLU was right there in the Minutemen's corner fighting for their free speech rights as well. LOL

AAA wrote on Jul 25, 2008 8:04 PM:The "Latino Rights" groups are looking more ridiculous all the time.

Thanks God wrote on Jul 25, 2008 8:12 PM:Thank God for the Minutemen!

Without them, many citizens, including me, would not be aware of the latino caucus agenda at work.

Just goes to show.... wrote on Jul 25, 2008 8:29 PM:how far the political hands in Sacremento reach when the special interest groups start screaming, and how far the politicians will bend over to kiss up to them, just because the Minutemen chose to adopt the stretch of I-5 that is in the area of the I-5 checkpoint, the Latino interest groups get upset, offended, and start screaming foul, they have no-reason to object, they can adopt a stretch of california Highway or Interstate also, and there-fore practice free speech themselves through some positive community involvement/clean-up projects.

Jason wrote on Jul 25, 2008 9:50 PM:Just for that Caltrans I am going to stop driving!

Costing Millions wrote on Jul 25, 2008 11:10 PM:An Attorney General investigation is warranted as to why Caltrans is wasting millions of tax dollars fighting the U.S. Constitution. This is outrageous! Is Mexico paying all these legal bills? Looks like some people in Sacramento think that this truly is Mexifornia. Where's our girly-man Gov. Arnold in ending this mess?

You go Jason wrote on Jul 25, 2008 11:20 PM:We should all stop driving. Stop using fuel. Minuteman, keep up the good work.

Fight on- no defend on wrote on Jul 25, 2008 11:35 PM:It doesn't sound to me like Caltrans is fighting on. They are basically just defnding themself. They can't just get out of this lawsuit unless of course they settle.

They are in a heap of trouble and they know it. They violated the MM's civil rights because of terrorists type threats from the open border activitists and politicians.

They bowed to their threats and then basically made up all kinds of lies or excuses.

Plain and simple, Moronass said the sign would be vandalized and the people wouldn't be safe on the side of the road while cleaning. Saldana said she was going to "take on " Caltrans.

Terrorist threats!!

EW wrote on Jul 25, 2008 11:38 PM:Anyone who thinks the Minutemen are decent people trying to clean up that stretch of road is fooling himself. They are not peaceful protesters. They cause noise and namecalling and attract all kinds of ugliness I can imagine Caltrans does not want. I'll take illegal aliens any day over these thugs.

What wrote on Jul 25, 2008 11:41 PM:What in the heck were you thinking Caltrans? Your first decision to allow them in your program was definitely right, but all the wrangling you did later was pretty hilarious!

You just cost us taxpayers some money. How about having the Latino Caucus pick up the tab. (It seems like you are in bed together)

Nononsense wrote on Jul 25, 2008 11:53 PM:I am so disgusted that my tax $$$ are being wasted by Caltrans to fight the Minutemen in this manner. The bureaucrats have egg on their faces and instead of admitting they were wrong when they caved to the latino caucus, they continue wasting our tax money in a losing court case!!!

face wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:17 AM:I dont really care for this anymore it seems all Minutemen want is attention.

Bring it on I hope I am on the jury wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:34 AM:I believe Judge William Q. Hayes area of specialty is Civil Rights. I tend to side with Judge Hayes decision.

Bill wrote on Jul 26, 2008 3:26 AM:Can we get our money back for this unofficial act of official business?

The illegal immigrant crowd actually thinks this helps their cause but it fans resentment.

I know Im more than commitred now to rid us of these illegal parasites that are draining our economy.

More committeed now than ever.....

nd admendment wrote on Jul 26, 2008 6:58 AM:The Minutemen must win this to show Mexico, La Raza and our powerful Latino Caucus that they are not above the law. We still have second admendment rights whether they like it or not. Thank you Minutemen. I have to wonder why Caltrans is using taxpayers dollars to fight this or are they?

BadBob wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:03 AM:Our government obviously does not stand for our Constitutional rights any longer. Apparently, it has been taken over by socialist. Time to vote them all out!

Picol wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:07 AM:It is very sad that certain latinos and latino groups feel discriminated and it is obvious they feel unhappy about their living conditions in the U.S.A. Since nobody should be forced to live under those unfair conditions, they should go back to the hell holes where they came from and live their pathetic existence in their own environment, where they should have stayed in the first place.

Sensitive issue wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 AM:Hey "unhappy latinos"...
Since you have made such important impact to this society, you should go one step further and really benefit the rest of us, by packing your bags, your families, your uneducated and misbehaved children, and return to your places of origin where you will really be appreciated again.
That will be the most effective way for you to express your discontent with the injustices you are exposed in the States. We will forever thank you for leave us more space in our communities, roads, and reducing the pollution you are contributing to.
Thank you.

work wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:23 AM:I would love to see the MM and its supporters volunteer more than an hour a day of HARD labor. But no, they are too busy having barbecues and lounging in lawn chairs sipping beer to do any real support activities for our communities. This is just a petty attempt for publicity to make themselves look like the victims. Boo hoo. The MM is just another gang.

How wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:24 AM:How come minutemen are not considered vigilantes....or a gang?????

bj wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:51 AM:Just as I have wrote all along. This type of behavior is getting worst and they feel they should control California and now other states with the infiltration of new births and thousands of bodies being placed all over the U.S. They are net-working against us. Is anyone doing much to stop this type of behavior and hiring and putting them in high jobs to control even more. LOOK around you. Fight back. We are loosing it appears. LOOK at the system and the overloads of everything we use and around us. They want California especially and have vowed to take it back by surrounding us with their rights and votes. STOP the politically correct bull. WE are LOOSING as of now. THANKS JUDGE for your input and trying.

Al wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:52 AM:I support the Minutemen 110% It is free-speech in Amercia. What partt of that right don't you ILLEGAL activists uderstand?

American woman wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:52 AM:CalTrans is in the pocket(s) of big CA government. CA government is in the pocket(s) of The federal government. The U.S. government is tying up all the loose ends that will finalize a deal with "the devil." As far as I can see, THE NEW WORLD ORDER is WINNING, folks. When will the American people WAKE UP?????? I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!! How 'bout you?

Nononsense wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:18 AM:Is it any wonder why Caltrans is so willing to kowtow to the latino caucus? Does anyone have any idea how many illegal latinos are voting in our oh-so-secure voting system? There are NO checks or citizenship and literally anyone can sign up to vote. Don't you think our politicians know, and approve, of this. California's legislature is heavily Democratic (there's a misnomer if I've ever read one). The illegals heavily favor the Democrats. So, of course, the Dems are going to keep it so there is no verification of citizenship to vote and they are going to continue pandering to the illegals. Wake up America!!!

Tuck wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:24 AM:To How: How came La Raza is not considered a gang?

Do you see.... wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:26 AM:the video of the 2 guys that wrecked their dump truck and then ran away?

This is why we need the Minutemen!

The lawlessness is amazing. These illegal aliens are going to ruin this country.

Tuck wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:28 AM:Sorry - type came s/b come

Tuck wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:28 AM:Sorry - typo came s/b come

Sam wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:31 AM:This country is heading in the wrong direction! When American citizens have to fight for their rights of free speech, and foreign citizens here illegally get marches, microphones, television cameras and the media to broadcast 'their positions' for 'their rights' (sounds like a joke), then we are all in trouble and need to rise to the occasion and support any American group that wants freedom of speech.
We can't silence the Minutemen in order to appease LaRaza!! It's a joke. If La Raza really cared about the rights of illegal immigrants, then they should do something to solve the problem and concentrate on fixing the corrupt government of Mexico. Demand they educate, feed, employ and give health care there -- don't expect us to pick up the tab! Solve your problems Mexico!

esteban wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:18 AM:The minute men should not be granted a adopt a highway sign. They are a vigilante group pure and simple. By permitting them a sign the stae is condoning vigilantes. I dont want that in my neighborhood. imigrants fill a job need that americans just wont do.

S. wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:41 AM:Caltrans is Right!
We support the separation of State and Stupidity! The Minutemen have no place on our public highways. If these sad people want to believe whatever it is they do, that's up to them. We do not want to be reminded of their weirdness every time we drive by.
When we read that Kaloogian was representing the Minutemen we couldn't help but laugh! Thinking people take heart, they haven't got a chance.

januaryM wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:56 AM:As MM they clean the roadside up sober?
The rest of the time you can find them cleaning up the roadside as part of their community service sentence for being drunk while driving.aka "Probees"
I love my own freedoms but I am NEVER gonna be or support MM.Thank goodness membership in MM is not a requirement to live free in this country and say what I want.

Nick wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:59 AM:LOL...LMAO. Your so funny "Esteban". Immigrants my rear end. What part of Illegal don't you understand? I don't want any illegals in my neighborhood. Seeing as how they just started a fire not more than a couple of blocks from my house the other day with their ILLEGAL camping fire in the brush.
Come to think of it, I don't want you in my neighborhood either.

esteban wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:11 AM:My neighborhood doesnt burn down just because someone ahs a bbq. if you would clear the brush around your house you wouldnt need to worry about it. Come to think of it you could hire a few "day laborers" to clear it for you for $20. Now could you find anyone who would do that? Not even my neighbors teenager would do that.

Loyalty Oath wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:12 AM:The latest loyalty oath for public servants should include a requirement that the candidate is not or never was a member of MECHA, and has no sympathy for the cause of AZTLAN.

Laurian wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:36 AM:Nick, that isn't our "resident" Esteban, is it? It doesn't sound like him. Do I have my posters mixed up?

GFN wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:47 AM:Typical government agency; arrogant, stupid, and unable to admit to making a mistake. Make Caltran's leaders individually liable to pay all costs if they lose, not the taxpayers, and this lawsuit would be dropped quicker than Jesse Jackson's apology for wanting to cut Obama's...well, you know the rest!

GFN wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:49 AM:Costing Millions, 11:10 post is right on. Thank you.

YA know wrote on Jul 26, 2008 11:54 AM:I remember when it used to be a "bad thing" to be any thing but a "white American".

Now we have come so far the other way that it is "bad" to be a white American.

Maybe I should start marking American Indian box (my great-granddaddy was one).

Maybe I should mark the African-American box because my great-great granny part.

Maybe I should mark any of the other boxes that include my heritage.

Wonder if I can get special privileges.

I wonder what box I can chose.

There aren't any that just say "American".

Free Speech wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:06 PM:The court is right. Even ignorant, hateful, racist thugs have free speech rights.

Minutemen are right wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:06 PM:Their rhetoric turns me off, but the Minutemen are right in this case, the st. is wrong and the last group of anti-Minutemen I shall not categorize fearing NCT censure.
Now folks, sit back and watch the hate-oriented st. workers go to extremes to fight the Minutemen's simple petition to clean up a road...and, I've seen no one from La Raza cleaning up any highway lately.
America, wake up!!

Jeff M wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:08 PM:Maybe with a jury trial, Enrique Morones could get some of Francine Busby's illegal alien voters to serve on the jury. Heck, if you've got illegal aliens voting, why not serving on juries too?

Nancy wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:10 PM:Congrats to the MM, Kaloogian and the judge for winning. Get the Mexicans out of our California government. Notice I say Mexicans meaning that their loyalty is to Mexico. Patriotic Americans of Mexican descent are A-OK. Deport Moronass!

To Esteban wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:12 PM:The only vigilantes are the open borders pro-illegal alien activists that have physically attacked peaceful Minutemen exercising their free speech rights. There have been over 40 such attacks requiring medical attention in the last 2 years. Your propaganda can't alter those facts.

Paco wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:32 PM:As a matter of historical record: In the 1950's, President Eisenhower sanctioned an agressive border patrol enforcement effort called "Operation W...". Don't believe me? Do a GOOGLE search and see for yourself. Just stop and think for a moment, what have we come to societally? I doubt NCT will even permit this historic truth to be printed.

Survivor wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:50 PM:Cal trans is wasting our tax money to pay for this. This country is degenerating into anarchy. Lock and load citizens!

Scooter wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:06 PM:Wow, "EW", the MM cause noise and name calling?! How terrible!! You are right, that is much worse than breaking into this Country illegally, using our free hospital services 'cuz you have no insurance, not having a drivers license, not paying taxes, not carrying vehicle insurance, having children to get money from our government (MY money), etc. Thanks for setting us all straight on how un-American (and just plain rude) it is to cause noise and name calling.....

Truth Squad wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:26 PM:To Esteban says: "The only vigilantes are the open borders pro-illegal alien activists that have physically attacked peaceful Minutemen exercising their free speech rights. There have been over 40 such attacks requiring medical attention in the last 2 years." This is one of the biggest lies ever to appear on these blogs, and that's saying something! Unless by "requiring medical attention" you mean "requiring a Bud Light".

WOW wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:28 PM:Thanks to the SDMM, California might just have a chance of remaining part of America. The LATINO caucus felt disrespected because the SDMM were given a sign near other Law Enforcement agencies. Hispanic vigilantes threatened violence and vandalism (what a SHOCK) if the SDMM were allowed a sign near a border checkpoint, because somehow this threatened their illegal aliens? Thank God the SDMM and Judge Hayes still believe in American values and, unlike Caltrans, refused to kow tow to the corrupt Mexican government running roughshod over the USA.

Bill wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:29 PM:Estaban shows his uneducated status by mangling what free speech rights are all about.

The best way to marginalize those like him are to let them talk.

Im fine with this for one reason and the facts here indicate a MM victory in court.

The court wont bow like CalTrans did because it wont concern itself with anything other than the law.The judge is bound by the law and a ruling against the MM has a big price tag for litigation written on it.

This time federal civil rights issues will be the issu.

A court will stop this as the system isnt that broken just yet.

Absent actual credible, relevant and admissale evidence of a safety hazard, the only issue before the court will be the 1st ammendmant issue.

Nothing else is relevant absent evidence of safety problems.

This one is so predictable.

Nikki wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:34 PM:Wow! This is getting so old.Why not find a solution to this problem instead of making it worse then it has to to be? Because all the minitue men are doing is adding fuel to the fire. a legal way for them to get away with public racesim. god bless america!

Pat wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:35 PM:To januaryM: You must be Enrique Moronass because you are throwing lies out there just on the chance that they might stick.

MM aren't a bunch of beer drinking people sitting around doing nothing. They are just the opposite. They are men and women who care about the sovereignty of their country and are illuminating the problems caused by illegal immigration.

While many people are at home doing nothing, the MM are out doing what they can for our country.

I thank them. My house has come close to burning twice because of the illegals who live in the canyon behind it. Illegals somehow think they can live and destroy our canyons.They follow no laws!!

U.S. Citizen wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:36 PM:Hey! I have an idea...why don't all you MM and MM suporters take over the illegal aliens jobs and then they would have to go back to Mexico to look for a job? What's that? You don't want to work from dusk til dawn for $4/hr? Didn't think so....why don't you all go take an economics class....learn something about this great country you care sooo much about.

Lets take a stand wrote on Jul 26, 2008 2:28 PM:Why don't we LEGAL US CITIZENS take a stand. If the latinos can have a protest day and generate attention for ...or more like against...their cause, why do we choose a day to protest how our government is treating their own tax-paying US CITIZENS. We could even get the media to cover it-KOGO, KFI, and all the rest.
What do you think???

dom wrote on Jul 26, 2008 2:37 PM:"American Woman"....We are with you 200%.Full agreement.But DO NOT give "them" an inch.That includes refraining from letting comments like"the new-world order" is winning" come from your lips.........I "personally" make it clear,wherever I go,whoever I talk to,I speak up for my country,my fellow patriots,and try to enlighten the un-knowing,and un-informed,about what will happen,if "blind","ignorant","clueless" individuals like "Free Speech"..."esteban"...."January M"..."How"...."Work"....Have "their way"....I also back-up my comments 100%...."Anytime"...

Why dont you post wrote on Jul 26, 2008 3:11 PM:I posted a very inane comment and you didn't post, why? Censoring maybe?

Im thankful wrote on Jul 26, 2008 3:17 PM:To januaryM:

You must be Enrique Moronass because as he routinely does, you throw out lies to see if they stick.

I can't believe they even let you post that the MM are a bunch of "probees-ie drunk drivers etc"

My next door neighbor is a very educated , fine woman and she is a MM. I thank her daily for illuminating the problems with illegal aliens. Our canyon caught on fire 3 times until she worked with the police to get the illegal squatters out.

Thank you, MM!! Thanks for getting of of your couches for the US citizens. I am indebted!!

i wonder wrote on Jul 26, 2008 3:20 PM:how many of the people that work for caltrans are illegal aliens?

Lets take a stand wrote on Jul 26, 2008 3:22 PM:Correction, sorry! I should have written, "why don't we take a stand".

HELP US ARNOLD wrote on Jul 26, 2008 3:24 PM:Gov Arnold, why not take a stand for something that 90% of every legal Califorian wants, ban illegal immigration and secure the border.

flipper wrote on Jul 26, 2008 4:00 PM:amazing how ignorant the illegal supporters like " ew " & estaban really are. if Mexico is so great, then why are you here ??? OH but I digress, you probaly dont know how to read the papers, and internet sites which have documented cases of the thousands of american citizens that have been murdered by your beloved illegals, one oceanside cop was a victim of a 3 times deported illegal, buy his mommy says his son is a good boy a " daddy " Yeah right, thanks to illegals, my kids have been looking for part time jobs for over a year now, and cant get them because of being americans. I also hope that I can get on that jury,

A thought wrote on Jul 26, 2008 4:12 PM:With the summer heat, will the MM be cleaning the freeways up themselves? If so, will the men be wearing bikinis?

Beth-San Marcos wrote on Jul 26, 2008 4:44 PM:It is HIGH Time for the Minutemen and Minutewomen! We all need to back these people All The Way.

Thanks to Howard K for helping this fine group of Patriots who understand all that is at stake for America

Beth-San Marcos wrote on Jul 26, 2008 4:50 PM:Liars Suck! Just because you say they are a vigilante group does NOT MAKE IT SO!

I think that these liars who allege these crimes should be taken to task for filing False Reports.

Alien Activists are a Hoot wrote on Jul 26, 2008 4:57 PM:Don't you just love the American haters who get on these blogs and call us names? Hipocrites! Everyone knows what's going on. Mexico is desperate to keep the borders open so they can keep exporting their uneducated, impoverished masses. The Mexican Caucus in Sacramento was caught lying and pressuring Caltrans. Read all about it on the San Diego Minutemen website. Amazing evidence has come out of this lawsuit. Ugly stuff from the agents of Mexico.

Jack wrote on Jul 26, 2008 6:05 PM:When I go to Mexico (which I do very often) to visit our friend who lives there I don't go there to take work (which is illegal under Mexican law) I obey there laws and don't expect them to change them for Americans who go there.
Spanish is the offical language of Mexico.
English not the offical language of USA yet!

illegals voting wrote on Jul 26, 2008 6:32 PM:August 23rd, 2008 - Join this rally to stop the Mexican Consulate from handing out Matricula Consular cards, Mexican passports, and registering illegals to vote at the Brunswick County Community College in North Carolina.

A thought wrote on Jul 26, 2008 7:54 PM:With the summer heat, will the MM be out doing the clean up themselvs. Will they be wearing bikinis as well?

Tijuana Juan wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:26 PM:Open the Borders! let us in please, or else we gonna come in illegally!

jeff wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:37 PM:With a 15 BILLION dollar state deficit Cal trans is going to throw good money after bad to continue this fight. I always knew that Caltrans was inept but now I'm sure that it's run by Morons!!!

wrote on Jul 26, 2008 11:25 PM:Why aren't you posting comments?

LOL wrote on Jul 28, 2008 8:38 AM:Wait a minute man. What does free speech have to do with cleaning a stretch a freeway? If they're concerned about cleaning freeways, couldn't they have picked any other stretch of freeway available? Why did it have to be this exact location? I bet the Minutemen didn't know there was a border patrol checkpoint there so they thought it was a good spot to adopt so they wouldn't bring attention to themselves. Yeah... that's it!

So Cal Native wrote on Jul 28, 2008 11:35 AM:HaHa...Too late for all of you Europeon transplants. We are taking over or really, taking back what was rightfully our ancestors native lands along with the indians! HaHa. Another 100 years and we dominate! Don't forget where your ancestors came from because, it wasn't here in North America!

To SO Cal Native wrote on Jul 28, 2008 9:06 PM:In 100 years the U.S. will have invaded Mexico, overthrown the corrupt gov't, and made mexico a place where mexicans can prosper and get educated. Pull your head out So Called Native!

joe wrote on Jul 29, 2008 9:33 AM:Who are the minuteman? What does that mean? A man in one minute maybe. people who dont have a life? or just people that hate life itself. I dont know, this is boring. Racisn will always stay alive.

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