ESCONDIDO: Nearby businesses getting mixed results from Sprinter foot traffic

Restaurants, coffee houses report biggest surges

By DAVID GARRICK - Staff Writer | Friday, July 25, 2008 6:13 PM PDT

Sprinter passengers board the train at the Escondido station on Friday. Escondido is the busiest of the Sprinter's 15 stations. (Photo by Waldo Nilo - staff photographer)

ESCONDIDO ---- Some merchants near the Escondido Sprinter station say they have seen a small surge in business since the trains began running in March, but others say they have received no benefit from being within walking distance of the busiest station on the line.

Based on more than a dozen interviews conducted Friday, restaurants, coffeehouses and other businesses that cater to the Sprinter's mostly young ridership have gotten the biggest boost. But merchants catering to older customers were far less enthusiastic about the new rail line's effect on their profits.

Sprinter passengers arriving in Escondido on Friday morning said they sometimes visit businesses near the station when they miss their train and must wait 30 minutes for the next one. But most passengers said the Sprinter has not changed their shopping or dining patterns very much.

The experience of merchants near the Escondido station, which is just west of downtown at Valley Parkway and Quince Street, is in stark contrast to the sharp boost in business reported by Oceanside merchants since the trains began running.

Officials from the North County Transit District have said the contrast is probably because many inland residents take the Sprinter to the Oceanside Municipal Pier and the beach, where they eat and shop before returning home. In those scenarios, passengers usually do not eat or shop near their home stations.

Of the 15 stations on the 22-mile Sprinter line, the Escondido Transit Center had the largest number of daily boardings during June, with an average of 1,450 passengers per day.

The Vista Transit Center was second with an average of 1,300 boardings per day, and the Oceanside Transit Center was third with 1,293. No other station averaged more than 706 boardings per day.

Harvey Mitchell, chief executive of the Escondido Chamber of Commerce, said Friday that it makes sense that businesses catering to young people have seen the biggest boost.

"I don't see a lot of older people riding the Sprinter," said Mitchell. "A lot of those people on the Sprinter maybe don't have enough money for the gas to go somewhere else in North County, but the Sprinter is getting them out and about."

Mitchell said the Sprinter has not yet begun to attract many of the business owners and professionals who are seen on the Coaster trains that travel from Oceanside to San Diego, or on commuter trains in New York or Los Angeles.

While the Escondido merchants interviewed Friday said they do not typically ask people if they have come from the Sprinter, they said many customers volunteer that they take the train.

Daniel Deussen, an employee at Regal Cinemas just east of the station, said he has heard enough customers talking about the train to estimate its affect on business.

"The impact hasn't been huge, but it's at least a few people every day," said Deussen.

A few steps away at Paradiso Mediterranean Cuisine, owner Fardad Raouf said he gets about five extra customers daily from the Sprinter.

And at nearby Fatburger, employee Jossa Vargas said the restaurant has seen a surge in Friday night customers. She speculated that more people are taking the train to the Cruisin' Grand classic car shows in downtown Escondido on Friday nights, which means they must pass by Fatburger on the way from the train station to Grand Avenue.

At Carrow's, a diner just east of the station catering mostly to older customers, manager Felipe Guerrero said the Sprinter has not boosted business at all.

"I see more people walking by, but none of them come in," said Guerrero.

West of the station in the Gateway Center, waiter Matt Covert said many customers at Uno Chicago Bar and Grill mention the Sprinter.

"Sometimes people say they want to get their food and drinks in a hurry because they have to catch a train," said Covert.

Sarah Post, a barista at the Starbucks inside Barnes & Noble, said several customers each day say they are waiting for a Sprinter train.

Mike Davis, owner of Quizno's in the plaza, said he thinks the Sprinter has helped his business.

"I don't know if I could directly connect it to the Sprinter, but we've certainly had a bump in the last month or two," said Davis. "I can guarantee you the Sprinter does not hurt."

But Lori Johnson of Michael's, a business with an older customer base, said she has seen no boost at all from the Sprinter.

Trains runs every half-hour from 4 a.m. to 9 p.m. weekdays and every hour on weekends. Sprinter day passes cost $4 per person.

Contact staff writer David Garrick at (760) 740-5468 or dgarrick@nctimes.com.

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The Sched wrote on Jul 25, 2008 10:35 PM:The Sprinter also runs every half hour on weekends and holidays from roughly 10 am to 6 pm. I'm not quite sure how David could have gotten all that into one sentence, though.

Inland wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:10 AM:It would be really convenient if there were refreshment accomodations at the station. More income for the City & happy refreshed commuters.

Duh wrote on Jul 26, 2008 8:32 AM:Let's see...build the Sprinter stops far away from businesses then expect more business. The Sprinter stops should have been built closer to stores or land used to build stores closer to the stops.

Christine wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:32 AM:It's too bad older folks don't give the Sprinter a try. They get to ride all day for $2. What a bargain!

Osider wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:40 AM:Older people are usually more savy about where they buy from, the places near the Sprinter charge rip-off prices, kids are not as smart about shopping.

Cant See the Forest for the Trees wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:30 PM:Question: How are Sprinter riders supposed to know what to do in Escondido?

Hint: If Escondido doesn't make the effort to tell them, how can we be surprised or disappointed that Sprinter riders aren't making our cash registers ring??

How much does one weather-proof brochure rack cost in comparison to the train and station? How much does one permanent map, kiosk, or perhaps something as effective as a wayfinding system (streetscape design) cost?

Has the City convened a community meeting for businesses and organizations to come together to discuss the needs and opportunities of the Sprinter now that it's here? Wouldn't that help the fitful Mercado effort as well as the Gateway businesses and Downtown?

I know that occasional "Ambassadors" and the DBA limo have tried to fill in the missing links, but these attempts are partial at best.

The scope of this oversight by the City, Chamber, CONVIS, and the DBA is so huge as to boggle the mind (How often do we have a multi-zillion dollar transportation project end in our front door? We'd better figure this out if that high-speed rail is going to happen!)

...and talking isn't enough. This is a real world test of vision, leadership and follow-through, for Pete's sake.

David, in today's information age, how can you have overlooked this? May we have a follow up article, please?

Escondodo wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:08 PM:I am one of those casual commuters who takes the Sprinter from Escondido to Oceanside. Escondido is just NOT conducive to foot traffic. The downtown core is a trek, whereas in Oceanside, everything is literally within two blocks. Oceanside has the pier, the beach, and great dining all within walking distance of the Sprinter station. I much prefer to escape the boredom of Escondido and head west.

Just wait wrote on Jul 28, 2008 11:04 AM:Hopefully once the cop shop pulls up stakes some intrepid developer will see a need for some shops and restaurants across the street from the transit center.

Praz Attack wrote on Jul 29, 2008 5:39 PM:I only ride the Sprinter when I'm too drunk to drive. It'd sure save me a few steps if they'd put a bar in next to the stations.

The Man Club of Escondido wrote on Jul 29, 2008 5:43 PM:Taking the train to Barnes & Noble and Starbucks will not make it onto the Man Club's agenda. If you want to take public transportation to a poetry reading and finish it off with a carmel macchiato, move to San Francisco. What we need are some strip clubs up here. That's worth the price of a bus pass.

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