LisaP wrote on Jul 31, 2008 5:11 PM:Illegals should be given a deadline. They should get out voluntarily until December 1, 2008. After, that, aggressive enforcement and deportation. They should not be here if they are here illegally. Period.

Dan wrote on Jul 31, 2008 5:41 PM:I’m sorry I wasted my time reading this garbage!

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Jul 31, 2008 5:54 PM:This program might sound a little crazy at first, but this sort of self-deportation makes sense. If ICE and other agencies offer immunity to prosecution, some will invariably take them up on the offer. Granted, there might be minimal participation, but given the state of our economy, namely the building industry where many illegal aliens work, more might be inclined to get a free pass back to their country of origin than we think. Also, given the state of the financed the State of California is experiencing, hopefully welfare and social services will be restricted and/or impacted to the point where illegal aliens will feel they have no choice but to take this offer and self-deport.

ICE and all other governmental agencies still need to enforce immigration laws and deport illegal aliens. Deportation orders are a joke. If/when illegal aliens are caught, they need to be taken to detention centers and deported expeditiously.

Of course, we're going to hear an outcry from the open-border, illegal alien advocates who are totally against such a plan. This program should serve as the beginning of a multi-pronged approach to dealing with the hordes of free-loading illegal aliens who have invaded our communities, taken/received taxpayer-funded resources such as welfare and free healthcare, and have eroded our quality of life with gangs and criminal behavior.

Small step wrote on Jul 31, 2008 6:16 PM:One small step for man, one giant step for mankind. Actually, I think Greg in OS said it all and said it well.

Eren wrote on Jul 31, 2008 6:34 PM:I dont think this program is going to work.....I dont think any illegal aliens are going to say "U KNOW WHAT I BETTER TURN MYSELF IN"....I think the president should pass an immigration reform law...That might be the key to get the bad people out and the hard working people to stay.......

Reality wrote on Jul 31, 2008 6:56 PM:Well, the reallity is as long as they have someone that will pay them (usually under the table)and they don't have to pay taxes and can send our US Dollars to Mexico...they aren't going anywhere. If the govt both State and Federal would run a database of single family homes / addresses vs taxes turned in and visit those addresses, they would find three to four families (mostly illegal) and could then deport them. It seems that making it illegal to hire them just doesn't seem to work.

this would be a good time wrote on Jul 31, 2008 7:19 PM:for the US to stick their head in another country's business(like always) and maybe help Mexico's government make it so that people don't have to come here to make a good living.

Gil wrote on Jul 31, 2008 8:04 PM:I am sure glad I voted NO on the TCMC proposition.

Hank wrote on Jul 31, 2008 8:05 PM:I would like to know what McBama thinks about this plan?

EscoWatchDog wrote on Jul 31, 2008 8:48 PM:Interesting. How about allow people who have no criminal record (migrating w/out documents should not be a crime) and if they have a job and agree to pay taxes, they can become documented residents and eventually citizens? I like that plan better.

It sends a message wrote on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 PM:For the first time in 7 1/2 years of the Jorge Bush Administration, DHS is actually sending a message to the illegal aliens that they are not supposed to be here. Its a start and hopefully a signal of bigger and better things to come!

Citizen wrote on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 PM:EscoWatchDog wrote on Jul 31, 2008 8:48 PM:

"Interesting. How about allow people who have no criminal record (migrating w/out documents should not be a crime) and if they have a job and agree to pay taxes, they can become documented residents and eventually citizens? I like that plan better."

I don't. Not at all.

Migrating without documents in your own country should not be a crime. Migrating into a separate sovereign nation with no legal right nor approval from the nation should be a crime.

And is.

Its called invading a country.

Citizen wrote on Jul 31, 2008 9:52 PM:Hank wrote on Jul 31, 2008 8:05 PM:

"I would like to know what McBama thinks about this plan?"

I don't know, but no doubt it only furthers the fascist new world order agenda and uses illegals as pawns in a bigger game.

Yes Citizen wrote on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 PM:And who would be guilty under your definition. America for going into Iraq. Ohhh, but somehow that is different. I am not sure how, but I am sure you can spin a difference.

Nononsense wrote on Jul 31, 2008 10:20 PM:Pedro Rios is so worried about what deporting people in this country illegally might do to their families. Why didn't the people breaking the laws of the U.S. think about what they might be subjecting their families to? Oh, that's right, no one is responsible for their own behavior anymore -- criminal or otherwise. Let's just keep letting the illegals suck up taxpayer dollars!!

Nick wrote on Jul 31, 2008 10:54 PM:Okay, to the guys who robbed the JC Penny stores across southern CA... you have 90 days to surrender or the police will come and arrest you. Doesn't this sound stupid too?

Yep wrote on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 PM:To Nononsense: HOORAH! Elsewhere: Help Mexico's government? Oh puh-leeze.

Well Now wrote on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 PM:Let's invade Mexico and take their oil.

Tit for tat.

They are letting their people come here illegally to for their benefit.

We should go their and use their oil for our benefit.

Another Escondidiot wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:29 AM:No. No. No. We want nothing less than making them suffer! Don't make it easy for them to leave, because then we wouldn't have anything to complain about!

...Shirlock wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:25 AM:Maybe this is a sign that even the illegals will begin to realize that the gravy train is coming to an end. We are left with hardtack and will all have to scramble for the crumbs.

To EscoWatchDog wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:41 AM:Those for whom you are apologizing need to go to the back of the line. There is no preference in our current laws for those south of our border. They aren't special.

everytime i laugh wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:00 AM:I've heard about this idea for a few weeks now and to be quite honest...it makes me laugh.
Is this what our country has become? We are now asking these people to leave our country?
It would much easier as Americans if we simply told them that as we lay here with our feet resting by the fires, that the hands that once warned here...that we have retired them. We can breathe our own air...this is our land...and we call this our home.
Do not forget...have no mercy. And live with the notion that we don't need anyone here but ourselves.

We Should wrote on Aug 1, 2008 3:53 AM:Invade Mexico and TAKE their oil.

It makes sense.

Thousands of illegals are here taking our services (medical, educational).

Maybe if we start stealing from them, they will want to stay in their own country.

Vanish wrote on Aug 1, 2008 5:15 AM:Since a lot of the illegal's were in the home building industry, that robbed my neighbors of their jobs, I have no sympathy their income has vanished.
Now the illegal's should vanish.

If the ciminial wrote on Aug 1, 2008 6:24 AM:Illegal Aliens who broke our law in the first place coming here unlawfully, doesn't self deport, then it is a slap in the face to the American Public. At this time I would declare all Illegal Aliens to be Felons and dealt with severly.

Arizona has it right wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:13 AM:AZ requires ALL businesses to use E-Verify and if there is not a match on the SS# they can't hire that person. Now they are coming here to work. E-Verify is the BEST way to get them to self deport.

Jack wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:14 AM:And the drug deals were asked to quick selling drugs. This is rediculous. When there is money to be made people respond.

Hey if I am wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:21 AM:am Illegal from New Jersey, will they fly me home free?

Scooter wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:22 AM:What makes anyone think that the illegals would do the right thing and take the government up on this offer? After all, they didn't think about doing the right thing when they broke into this Country and started stealing from her the minute they arrived.....

ROFL wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:38 AM:this is so funny its hard to stop laughing! Our government thinks that these illegals who have been feeding off the US tax payer will willingly leave because they get a 'free ticket home'? Dude - they get a free ticket home anyway - when they are forcefully deported. Geez - talk about stupid ideas from our government! Just grab them by the collar and throw 'em across the border and be done with it! For crying out loud how much longer do we have to support these parasites? I think the U.S. taxpayer is over 'being humane'. We're done paying for these guys. Get the message ICE?

to Hey wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:41 AM:People from New Jersey remind me of why we need border enforcement.

No, its not those coming in thru Californian's southern border that is the problem, its those eastern borders that let every hillbilly, back easter, and red neck into the state, thus degrading it!

They give wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:48 AM:amnesty to people who haven't filed taxes in a while to come in out of the shadows and make things right. If those taxpayers don't take advantage of the deal, then I say throw the non-paying taxpayer and all Illegals in jail! You only get one chance don't blow it, DEPORT!

RG wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:57 AM:Vanish: Since a lot of the illegal's were in the home building industry, that robbed my neighbors of their jobs...
So, if you have the option of hiring a legal person or an illegal person, but you can pay the illegal person much less, who's fault is it they "took" these jobs you're referring to? The person that wants to do an honest day's work for pennies or the dishonest business owner who wants to make a buck at your neighbor's expense? Would your neighbor take the job if he got half the pay? I wouldnt think so. These are the kinds of people who arent here for a hand out, they want to make a living just like the rest of us and I welcome these kinds of immigrants. As for the ones that have learned to work the system by cranking out babies on US soil and making welfare a career, those can go away. Welfare should NOT be for life, regardless of ethnicity. THAT'S where this deportation should start. They have the names and addresses--give them 30 days to find other care for their US born kids, send them back and get them off the dole. If they dont want their kids to stay in the US without them, they are more than welcome to take them back with them. Matter of fact, there's some LEGAL citizens who play the same welfare for life game and they should probably go WITH THEM!
The next place to scan is the prisons. Sort them out, no proof of citizenship, either a political prisoner exchange (we'll take American prisoners for Mexican prisoners) and hold the country responsible for the convict's actions should they decide to release him/her. If they return to the US and commit another crime, it will be Mexico's responsibility to ensure the criminal is prosecuted otherwise, the 2nd strike will be for life. No more screwing around with their human rights--they forfeit them taking the risk by returning to the US and committing another crime. The ACLU would have a field day with this one.
And, the "pretty please?" proposal is a Pollyanna approach to the problem, but I guess something is better than nothing, considering the head in the sand approach our govt has displayed as of late.

Julio wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:03 AM:Free flight home? Sign me up. What a country! I break your laws and come here illegally over your joke of a fence (along with 100 family and friends), you get a judge to issue deportation orders on me, I ignore them. You don't come looking for me and life is good. Now you beg me to leave and even offer me assistance and free transportation to my home state in Southern Mexico?

Are you taxpayers really that dumb to pay for all this? No wonder the whole world laughs at America now....

Free Plane ticket wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:04 AM:May I self deport to Puerto Vallarta, CanCun or perhaps Mazatalan?

JUST wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:05 AM:keep kicking that can on down the road.
hahahaahahah.
what a joke!

Dink wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:12 AM:This program makes about as much sense as a Self-service bank...the 'honor system' huh?

Patriot wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:15 AM:I'm not a big fan of rewarding illegal behavior, but we are enduring a huge liability for health, education and welfare costs for many illegal aliens and their families every day they live here. We need to stop the bleeding. It might be cost effective to offer cash incentives in the form of monthly stipends for any illegal alien who signs up in the next 90 days and self-deports by the end of the year. The incentives could be claimed at the American Consulate in the home country. The incentives could be offered for dependent minors as well. Providing services to dependent children is the biggest burden of illegal immigration on the American taxpayer. Surely it would be cost effective to subsidize the child living abroad who uses the government services of that country instead of ours. That would help keep families together as well.

Temecula wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:19 AM:They are here ILLEAGALLY. They have NO rights. Go back to where ever you came from and get here legally and through the correct channels..
This country is WAY to lenient with this type of thing.

If I decide to self wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:20 AM:deport to Florida, can I get a round trip ticket?

Home Away from Home wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:37 AM:It is nearly laughable to think that Illegals will voluntarily leave the U.S. They have found a home away from home. Their indignant and ignorant
attitudes along with being participates in all "freebie" programs is well known and documented. Asking the "I Team" to leave is like asking an alcoholic to leave the bar before closing time.

Take away wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:37 AM:all the millions and millions of dollars in benefits these people get and these people and their babies will self deport. Just why the gov does not recognize that these people are
are the source of our money problems is beyond me.
Not really we all know this.

Elwood wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:44 AM:Every day I read the paper and see at least one article that everyone can use to vent about illegals. Writing in this blog doesn't change anything. PLEASE take a moment after you finish your blog and send an email to your elected officals - local, state and federal- let them know how you feel EVERY DAY. Maybe what those bone heads need to finally start making some changes is a dailey flood of public opinion from all of you.

Laugh for the day wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:45 AM:Well that article surely started my day off with a good laugh. My solution is to stop educating, feeding, providing health care, automatic citizenship for their babies and all freebies to anybody who is not here legally. Punish those hiring them severely with hugh fines. When the handouts stop they will go back to the countries they came from. Sounds harsh but since they will not obey the laws of the land we must deal with them in a way that will stop others from entering our country illegally.

HEYYY wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:45 AM:Where did my day laborer go? I need my weeds pulled! Just called his brother. Brother said he 'self deported' but will be back next week 'cause he has a ride with a coyote. Great use of my tax dollars U.S. Government. Pay 'em to leave so they come back next week on the next truck up!

I agree give them wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:50 AM:a ticket home, they can spend some time with the family and friends, then its back to crossing the fence and HELLO AMERIKA!

ToRG wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:12 AM:Your job is next bub, there is allways someone willing to take your job and work for nothing.

TLS wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:12 AM:I actually think this is just a way for ICE to shoot down the illegal alien supporters arguement that deportation is traumatic and expensive. Supporters of illegal aliens claim that these people need time to get things in order, etc. and by allowing this new method we simply take away one of their arguements. Basically we are calling their bluff. I know as well as the next person that they will just come up with more arguements about how cruel and unjust we are to want to enforce our borders and immigration laws but the time is coming that American citizens have had enough of this burden created by illegals. Even the bleeding heart liberals need to admit that allowing people to sneak across our border without the proper checks, identification, documents, etc. puts all Americans at risk.

Oil wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:14 AM:We can take their oil, and have them work for us in their own country... Plus their would be no enviromentalists there that would give a darn! Great idea huh?!

Dee Temecula wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:15 AM:If these IA's read yesterday's paper they would know that when forcefully deported they are ejected from the country penniless. If they are smart and want to keep their ill-gotten gains while in the U.S. illegally taking the food from some American's mouth they should be wary. The words "OR ELSE" seem to be implied.

AZ leads wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:20 AM:AZ passed "humane" laws that deny citizenship to children of illegals. AZ passed laws that all new workers must pass the E verify program. These laws ARE working!!! DHS and ICE need to take note. ANY child born to illegal parents is NOT a citizen and can NOT receive benefits for the whole family, for life. CUT benefits!!! Not even the illegals can survive on slave wages without supplements. This is a great first step, but needs to go further. After 90 days, anyone who has not self deported will have ALL benefits cut. Then they will have to self deport on their OWN dime.

DeeTemecula wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:24 AM:Any illegal alien who read yesterday's paper should have read the part where it said those deported by force return home penniless. If they want to keep their ill-gotten gains while in this country illegally (and stealing the food from some working class American's mouth) they should heed the implied words 'OR ELSE.'

Fed UP wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 AM:Ship them home free? No. Charge it their home country. And why in gods name aren't we (the US) billing the living daylights out of Mexico for medical expenses incurred by their nationals? Get hurt south of the border, better have some cash,ATM, or your health card ready.Not so here, look at the illegals treated in the Burn Center.
Next, I purpose taxing any money sent/wired out of this country. Tax it at, say, 18%. That would go into a general fund for which ever county the money was wired from :-)
I'd love to drive my truck to Melrose and N.Santa Fe pick up a load of workers and head south (all the way to the border), but you can't have riders in the bed of your truck unless your a smuggler. Another perfect idea foiled by the rules.

esteban wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:55 AM:I dont get it. Why do we let cubans in if they can evade the coast guard and authorities. Once they set foot on US soil they can stay? If say mexico were to turn communist like cuba then we would welcome them crossing the border.

funny money wrote on Aug 1, 2008 10:04 AM:Make sure you say, "pretty please." Even better, say "por favor, mi corazon." That's guaranteed to work!

mark of disobedience wrote on Aug 1, 2008 10:14 AM:Is there any way we can tattoo illegal aliens' forearms when we deport them so we can recognize them when they try to reenter the country illegally? That would be a nice deterrent for employers who might hire them, and it would keep the employers from claiming ignorance or complaining that the immigrant got by with a fake identification. If the tattoo is a serial number, it could be quickly checked against a list and the immigrant could be let go if his/her status turns out to be okay (because the ten-year period has passed, or because s/he has legalized his/her status. It's unfortunate that we have to consider branding people like cattle, but I don't see any perfect solution here. And it's not all that different from branding prison inmates.

Free Car wrote on Aug 1, 2008 10:28 AM:Why not offer a free SUV and gas card because otherwise, I have the feeling the ICE office in San Diego will remain empty. Comprende???

To dink wrote on Aug 1, 2008 10:44 AM:self-service bank? self deportation would make about as much sense as a self-service circumcision center. RIDICULOUS!
That Valley Girl running ICE is a joke.

To Free Car wrote on Aug 1, 2008 10:53 AM:are you kidding? Do you know how many defaulted auto loans there will be? They will have all brand new cars in Mexico and I don't feel sorry for any of the banks or auto dealers, hey they asked for it they got it!

To Mark of Disobedience wrote on Aug 1, 2008 10:56 AM:Brand them in the middle of their foreheads, "ILLEGAL ALIEN"? I like.

How ever they decide wrote on Aug 1, 2008 11:29 AM:the government wants to deport them, they better hurry, November is almost here and its going to be McCain and Obama who will feel the wrath of the American People.

to to dink wrote on Aug 1, 2008 11:29 AM:AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAH

to I agree give them wrote on Aug 1, 2008 11:32 AM:You are so right, that is exactly what will happen, a free ride home to visit family courtesy of US taxpayers!
How stupid are SD immigration officials?

Have compassion wrote on Aug 1, 2008 11:37 AM:THEY were here in CA first anyways, we're asking them to leave THEIR lands. We should probably pay reparations to these people who just want to work an honest days wage. I think leaving SHOULD be voluntary. Shame on the many racist remarks you all have made.

ToFed UP wrote on Aug 1, 2008 11:43 AM:Your comment "Next, I purpose taxing any money sent/wired out of this country. Tax it at, say, 18%. That would go into a general fund for which ever county the money was wired from :-)" I LOVE IT, BUT TAX IT 50%, they didn't pay taxes on it in the first place.

Sick of it wrote on Aug 1, 2008 11:48 AM:I am so desperate that I am elated to see even a token notion by the government that we need to do something to stop the sickening tidal wave overtaking our country. It sometimes feels as though I have moved to a foreign country. There is a local Ross that I have shopped for about twenty years. I don't even go in there any more because virtually everyone is speaking Spanish, including the clerks! If people are here LEGALLY, so be it, but it is ridiculous for these people to break the law and expect all the benefits of citizenship at our expense. There should be a huge tax on all money wired to Mexico (here that Walmart?) Round 'em up, ship 'em out, build that fence and electrify it! Time for all of us to get damn angry and make ourselves heard.

Life wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:03 PM:It's life. Deal with it. Includes everyone!

To Have Compassion wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:25 PM:I haven't seen one racist comment direct to any one race. We are talking ILLEGAL ALIENS, they are made up of people from AROUND THE WORLD! Quit trying to stir something up that isn't there.

Hmmm wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:32 PM:I really think this is Karma taking a toll for the evil actions against Native Americans which continue to this day. Stop whining and make right was has been wronged by the real illegal aliens/invaders/criminals, the europeans who call themselves "Americans".

slappy wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:34 PM:why did you pull my comment ?

MAL wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:52 PM:why are liberals suicidal?

Riiiight wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:52 PM:Like they're gonna leave just 'cuz you asked them.

to Hmmm wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:54 PM:Dying to hear your plan for making right what is wrong and who you are voting for in November.

Real Americans wrote on Aug 1, 2008 12:55 PM:I can read the headlines from the 1500's; "illegal aliens pouring into the country from Europe!" What goes around comes around, have a taste of your own medicine! Native Americans & Mexicans should ask everyone of European decent to "voluntarily leave."

to To Have Compassion wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:05 PM:What a difference an hour makes. The racists have joined in and their true colors are showing.

P wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:05 PM:Puleeease! Who thinks up this crap?

To Have Compassion wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:08 PM:I am done with compassion. I just ran an E-verify on a person we hired. He FAILED, naturally. I give him the letter that gives him a time to get it straight with SS and make him sign for it. Then what do I get???? An employment verification for county AID?

I can't AFFORD any more compassion. This country is going BROKE supporting these illegal aliens who mindlessly reproduce, whether they can afford a child or not.

No-Spin Doctor wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:22 PM:This announcement is a precursor to what is next on ICE's adgenda. Watch what happens to LA,SF and the other cities in this country that are illegaly aiding and harboring illegals. There are 5,000 new BP agents that will join ICE and DHS in the next few months. Sanctuary cities beware. The illegal community has FORMALLY been put on notice. Self-deport now, or be physically deported and legally, they can never come back.

To compassion wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:22 PM:To Have compassion at 11:37. How many uninvited "guests" do have living in YOUR home? How many of them are of a different race than YOU? Maybe a couple of undocumented Orientals? Maybe a couple of Caucasian homeless U.S. vets who served this country? Come on now, surely YOU have compassion for AL races and for others needing a helping hand. Come on now, lets hear about YOUR compassion. Or is YOUR compassion limited to calling others racists?

Deanna wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:34 PM:to: THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME
These illegals don't have to come here to make a living, Mexico is the 14th richest country in the world!!!! 2/3 of the people live in Mexico City and make a good living. They have a lot of rich resources, Oil just to name one. Mexico encourages those close to the border, and rural areas, to come here illegally because they know these people, unskilled, will send money back home and guess who benefits? The Mexican G'ment! Its all about power and take over (or, Mexicans think- take back!) of the western part of the USA. Our own g'ment also plays a role because they want there vote, that's why Sen. Feinstein and Kennedy push for legalization. Those that live in Escondido should read more of Kit Carson...what do you think his part in history really was?

Faux Chuckles wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:47 PM:To Have compassion, Hmmm & Real Americans: Thanks for your efforts during the May 1st pro-illegals demonstrations, you have motivated the sick-n-tired into forcing our govvernment to do its job. Now please take your compassion and useless arguments and deport yourselves.

Donny ... wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:58 PM:It's to the point where something radical has to done since a blind has been turned for far to long. Too much money has been made by corporations, too much of our tax dollars have been wasted, too many democrats using the illegal and poor as a voting block at American's expense. I've got love for the rich and the poor alike. But not for people who break the law and still make demands. If that's the case then make paying taxes an option but not a crime. Let every first time felon in prison back on the streets. Reward people for breaking the law, and punish those that don't. Ok, I regress, but how can you not on this subject?

Pedro wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:59 PM:O.K. yankees, let me pack up my things and my u.s. born kids, and move back to my home country where there are no jobs or schools, so we can starve to death.
Why don't you european decendants pack up and move back to europe, and give us natives of north america our rightfull homelands back. Crazy request is'nt it?

To to Compassion wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:00 PM:What do you mean by the word "Oriental"? I have an Oriental Rug in my home but I think it is documented.

To Have Compassion wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:30 PM:Read your history books . . .this land was PURCHASED from Mexico - we did not steal it...

Donnylagoon wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:30 PM:It's to the point where something radical has to done since a blind has been turned for far to long. Too much money has been made by corporations, too much of our tax dollars have been wasted, too many democrats using the illegal and poor as a voting block at American's expense. I've got love for the rich and the poor alike. But not for people who break the law and still make demands. If that's the case then make paying taxes an option but not a crime. Let every first time felon in prison back on the streets. Reward people for breaking the law, and punish those that don't. Ok, I regress, but how can you not on this subject?

Frank wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:31 PM:To Pedro: I can see that you are angry, and I think some of your anger is justified. My family came to American from Italy in the 1940’s, so we are fairly new to America. However, my family did not receive a dime from the government in the form of food stamps, welfare, affordable housing, free/reduced lunches and unemployment benefits. Further, our instruction in school was only in English. Report cards were not sent home in Italian. My mother had to take my reports to the butcher for translation. My family came to America for the same reason your family probably did, no work in our native land. At the time, Italy was pathetically poor and we came here to get away from that place. We were excited to be here. We did not want to change America to be like us, because we failed in making Italy better. We wanted to change to be like America, the land of opportunity. Thanks for listening.

Johny On The Spot wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:39 PM:You watch what happens with this stupid idea.....

The illegals will use the "free" (free for them... nothing is free, come on) plane ticket to go home for Christmas or their Grandma's birthday and then they will be back in a month to continue doing whatever they have been doing.

This is one of the most inane ideas I have EVER heard of.

This is akin to asking a bank robber, would you please not rob any more banks so we do not have to throw you in prison.

Sometimes our gov't flat amazes me with their new programs that of course we all get to pay for.

We do not need any more stinkin' programs, we need some down home ENFORCEMENT here, plain and simple.

I still cannot stop laughing about this.

Scooter wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:41 PM:To Pedro: I'll back up Frank; my family came from Germany, and we did not accept any free hand outs either. My Grandfathers worked two jobs and learned English, so that they could make it in America. Yes, they spoke German at home, but their children, and all those that followed, learned and speak English. Neither my parents, nor my Grandparents, got "paid" for having children, did not use the ER for free medical (even though insurance ate up a large amount of their pay), did not accept free food or lunch programs, etc. Are you starting to get it?! Nobody here is against immigrants; but we are all fed up with illegals, mostly because they think they are owed something and feel that they are above the law. Go back, get in line (like everybody else does) and come back to an America that will welcome you with open arms. Otherwise, go home and, like my Grandma used to say, "kwithcherbellyachin"!

DBee wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:56 PM:To Pedro - When you and your American borne children go back to your home country, (and eventually you will be forcibly removed from this country), that there are no schools or work to be had, is your fault for not caring enough about your country to try to make it better. Why don't you take the knowledge you gained in this country and use it to reform your own government? I'm sick and tired to illegal aliens stealing benefits from the American taxpayer, yet will not say a simple thank you for carrying me while I pursue a better life. Be grateful and quiet, or go ... home.

No Schwilk wrote on Aug 1, 2008 3:06 PM:"If ICE is giving some of them the grace period to help convince them to leave before they get caught and formally deported, that sounds like the humane treatment of illegal aliens that the Latino activists have been demanding," Schwilk said." No Schwilk That is not humane treatment. Humane treatment will come when John McCain becomes President and grants Amnesty to all the illegals in this country. If I were in their shoes I would wait a while before getting on that bus, or plane.

To No Schwilk wrote on Aug 1, 2008 3:22 PM:Don't forget Osama has also promised all of the Illegals amnesty. What America needs is a 3rd party canidate that can obey the laws of America.

To Pedro Rios wrote on Aug 1, 2008 3:33 PM:Pedro thank you for all the work you do to make the United States a better place to live. I appreciate you and others who selflessly continue to speak up against ill treatment of other human beings. Thank you again and keep up the good work.

sam iraq wrote on Aug 1, 2008 3:34 PM:how can we deport people to iraq if thay are in danger what it the united state's thinking we killed ther people then mad you land go down 50year's back now what say a get out you are not wanted here that bad vary bad you think about it?

Hitler was brilliant wrote on Aug 1, 2008 3:57 PM:Okay, now that I got your attention with my heading, let me say a few things.

FIRST-- Hitler was wrong. His philosophies were warped. Etc....

BUT, say what you will about the man, his political views, etc.... the man was a MASTER at mobilizing people to achieve a goal. Unfortunately, his goal was genocide.

We need massive mobilization of the American people right now.

I feel we need s temporary police state in America, simply because of the sheer number of illegal aliens who reside here.

Use the military to force deportation---- and deportation ONLY. (I don't want any human beings killed. I am speaking of merely expelling people back to their homeland who are in the United States illegally.)

Those who are found to be here illegally will serve a one year work force prison term before they are deported. They will help build a border wall.

Those who are found to be here illegally who have criminal records, will be forced to a 10 year work force prison term building the wall, or doing other infrastructure jobs if the wall is completed. (With around 20 million illegal aliens in the United States, that wall won't take long at all to complete.)

Not killing them is humane, is it not?

Oh, by the way, the Berlin wall separated one country into two. Research your history.

The sheer numbers of illegal aliens in the United States begs for martial law to be put into play. I think three years of martial law ought to do the trick.

(Believe me, if you want "self-deportation", just announce that there is a 90 day grace period before the martial law goes into effect. We might not have enough of am illegal alien work force to build a wall, and might have to use the military-- which is alright with me. Building a wall that protects our nation's borders falls under their job description.)

Please note, I am advocating martial law for DEPORTATION only. No killing, no torture, etc. Just deportation.

I am sick of this lawlessness in America.

Lastly, I DESPISE Hitler. But there was no doubt he was a master of mobilizing his nation. We could learn a thing to two in regards to that.

(If the person who invents a cure for A.I.D.S. turns out to be a serial killer and rapist, would you not take his cure if you or a loved one had A.I.D.S. because of that fact?)

Okay then, Hitler was a master at mobilizing people, that is all I am saying.

I think deporting ALL the illegal aliens from the United States and building a wall is a noble goal, and a sorely needed one at that.

wrote on Aug 1, 2008 3:58 PM:To Sam Iraq...WHAT?????

USA wrote on Aug 1, 2008 4:24 PM:I just dont understand why people do see the term ILLEGAL in ILLEGAL ALIEN. Just like it is ILLEGAL to steal a car and ILLEGAL to drink and drive, it is ILLEGAL to immigrate here without proper documentaion. To people like PEDRO telling Europeans to go back...Hey, our ancestors immigrated here LEGALLY. Huge difference my friend (amigo)! They also did not bleed the system and take advantage of every social service available. They adapted to their new home in every way they could to actually make a better life for their famalies now and future generations. And it all started with doing things LEGALLY...going through the proper documentaion process.

bogie wrote on Aug 1, 2008 4:25 PM:This is so funny that I can't hardly stand up. Oh my, just when I thought our legislators couldn't be any more out of touch with their constituants here comes this prize. I've got to have contact information for the dunder head who thought this one up. How about it Edward Sifuentes, can you give us the contact info for the person at the top of the food chain on this bizarre idea?

How about we start inprisoning employers that hire illegal workers with fake IDS? That will make the ones not feeding at the public trough go home for sure. We won't even have to say pretty please.

Beth wrote on Aug 1, 2008 4:39 PM:Sheesh, if they wanna leave we will pay for it.

To Pedro wrote on Aug 1, 2008 5:06 PM:Are you for real? You believe that MEChA dogma about Aztlan belonging to the bronze people and not to any other races?

Grump wrote on Aug 1, 2008 5:59 PM:"Plane tickets paid for by the agency", you mean paid for by me and the rest of the tax payers. Drop them off at TJ.

I wonder who... wrote on Aug 1, 2008 6:01 PM:All of the pro-illegal posts here are probably from illegals or their offspring.

Anyone have the guts to admit their illegal status or their lineage from it?

I love the "thanks for all the hard work you do" BS. People who say this also should say "thanks for ruining public education, medical insurance, and the quality of life for regular Americans".

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Aug 1, 2008 6:21 PM:My in-laws live in the barrio, so I am familiar with what really goes on. What is happening is young, single illegal immigrant women are getting pregnant, having children in our hospitals (at taxpayer expense) and the babies become automatic 'citizens' upon birth. Because this baby is now considered a 'citizen' it qualifies for social assistance, so the mother applies for and gets AFDC, welfare, WIC, etc. The father doesn't marry the woman (or does, but she doesn't report it when she applies for social assistance) and he lays low for two reasons; so they can continue to receive taxpayer-funded public assistance and healthcare, and so they both don't get deported. These illegal immigrants are not likely to stand up and volunteer to be deported. They are living in the neighborhood in multiple family settings, are quasi-integrated into the community with other illegal immigrants, and their children eventually attend local schools. It's an underground network, and they basically live in limbo. As long as they stay under the radar, they receive free-bees (money), entitlements, and benefits that only citizens should get.

In an earlier post, I said that I think there may be some who will take the offer and get the free pass home. These are likely to be those illegal immigrants who are more visible to ICE, and who are struggling with employment and are finding social assistance not as available. But we're still going to have many who hope that some sort of immigration reform (amnesty) program will save them.

One of the most effective solutions is to remove the ... piece of the equation. We have Mexicans sneaking across the border just to give birth ... at taxpayer expense and to get a foothold into our country. And what's even more shocking is that wealthy Mexicans are doing this too! So we need to address and get clarification to Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. For those babies born to non-citizens and illegal immigrants, we need to assign the baby the citizenship of the mother's country of origin. This will eliminate the easy access to taxpayer-funded resources, ultimately discouraging illegal immigrants from sneaking into this country.

We need to demand that our governmental leaders take responsibility and come up with logical multi-pronged approach to this problem and quit the finger-pointing.

WHAT wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:19 PM:"...avoid the expense of being arrested and deported by immigration agents, which some immigrant rights groups say can be traumatic for families." ?!?!??!

Its traumatic for my family to pay out for these "families" to reap the benefits of our flawed US welfare and medical benefits! Go home!

LET THEM STAY wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:21 PM:instead of the day laborers demanding $10 an hour to pick my avocados...I can pay them half that and they'll like it! Supply and demand baby!

Anne wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:22 PM:Greg in OS, sweetie, I don't think so... nobody gonna self deport no way no how.

Im an ... wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:22 PM:Hey Greg it is called Cal Works not AFDC!!! "finding social assistance not as available." so you agree that not ALL the illegals immigrants are sucking our resources dry, hum!!! Sorry but Section 1 of the 14th Amendment is pretty clear. The only way the Constitution can be changed is by an act of Congress and I don't see that happening. So regardless of the mother or fathers immigration status if they have a child on American soil that child IS an American citizen. Not only that but ANY PERSON in the juridiction is entitled to life, liberty, property and equal protection under the law. If I was desperate an pregnant you bet your assets that I would run to the USA side of the border to have my baby!!!!! I guess the founding fathers were a kinder gentler folk.

meabunchothers wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:40 PM:And on Aug. 23rd??

Jaque to GreginOside wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:45 PM:""Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. For those babies born to non-citizens and illegal immigrants, we need to assign the baby the citizenship of the mother's country of origin.""

BRILLIANT!

Things progress and take on change (e.g., gun laws) so I love your idea.

ShawnP wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:20 PM:If only they WOULD self-deport.... Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

KS wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 PM:Greg in Oceanside for President!

Goodbye wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM:Gee if we started to deport all the ...babies a few of you whose grandparents entered through Ellis Island would be the first to go!!! See ya!!!

To Im an wrote on Aug 2, 2008 12:21 AM:The Declaration of Independence states that we are all entitled to "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
it DOESN'T state that the Government has to foot the bill for you, me or anyone else to have this. If You or I or ANYONE else wants to enjoy these freedoms, we need to work for them, not exspect our needs to be met via social programs and handouts, Article I of the 14th Amendment was written to make the children of freed slaves after the Civil War citizens of the U.S., not to let anyone who manages to get on U.S. soil, [have] a child, and sign up for all the freebies we now provide through State and Federal Programs. As long as we continue to provide these "magnet" programs, we will continue to see abuse of our laws, and the continued bankrupting of this Nation

abraham wrote on Aug 2, 2008 2:01 AM:To all the racist, prejudiced anti-immigrant, inhumane, and lazy, so called patriots... why don't you take some action and self-sacrifice your comfortable job in the name of this glorious nation by accepting the pay the illegals take for the job they do? Or do you prefer to increase our already tilted trade deficit with China by importing the agricultural products from them as well? It is because of the illegals low wages that some of those jobs remain in America. And guess what... you can help increase the competitive efficiency of this sector by taking those jobs... As english speakers you would be given preference at the employment site, all other things being equal (assuming you are as good hard workers and produce with the same efficiency).

This way the employers would not have to be faced with the economics of supply and demand of unskilled cheap labor (why would they pay more for the required labor if they can get it for less?). There is a reason many employers (of babysitters, domestic cleaners, gardeners, dishwashers, field workers, meat packers, janitors, etc) even learn the illegals' language... it is because there is an economic incentive!!!

By the way, all your talk only shows the stupidity of the growing intolerance characteristic of those who have not suffered in life... and the ignorance of those who only care about themselves. If you all were in the same situation as the illegals are, you most likely would do the same thing, it is simply human nature (if the system makes benefits available to them it is not their fault they take advantage of them)! They are not stupid.

I guess it is easy to blame others for our own faults. Why not stop sponsoring the goods and services of illegals? Even better, why not take some action and put our actions where our mouth is? It is not the illegals' fault that we have allowed them to harbor themselves and their families in this land, we have created the demand... they just do what any thinking person would do given the circumstances... It just happens that there is a border in between and Americans are just looking for a scapegoat. Why do you look the other side when you benefit from them? Hypocrites! You all want a cheap laborer for your own benefit, wether it is your child's nanny, your landscaper or your helper.

I see human beings working to survive and to support their families. Anything wrong with that? If they have to work twice as hard for the same money... no only benefits them but benefits us because we enjoy cheaper goods and services for which we would have to pay more otherwise. Too bad they are not machines: they get sick, have problems, grow families, etc (like most natural human beings)... Ahhh but wait a minute!!! that is where our problem begins: we only want to exploit them for their labor... what about accepting our social responsability towards their needs as well? Slavery is over in this country, at least it is supposed to be. Yeah, for real!

It is difficult to always win given the fact that two countries so disproportionally unequal in wealth are sharing the same border and we have to put up with that. "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" For those of you who still have some humanity left it is the second commandment and if you do not care for it... you'll have to put up with the consequences. After all it is your own actions. Just be glad you are not in their shoes for a day! Otherwise you would humble yourself and learn to respect them and their dignity.

bogey wrote on Aug 2, 2008 4:05 AM:Apples and oranges here Goodbye on Aug 1, 2008 9:49 PM. You see the folks (including my grandfather) that came through Ellis Island did so in a legal manner presribed by the sovereign Nation of the USA. Do you get it now? Didn't think so.

To Hmmm wrote on Aug 2, 2008 6:42 AM:What was this continent called before the Europeans showed up?

Do you actually think indians were the first people on this continent and if they were, they originated here? Did they just fall from a tree, or what?

Really wrote on Aug 2, 2008 6:45 AM:"It also will help people avoid the expense of being arrested and deported by immigration agents, which some immigrant rights groups say can be traumatic for families."

Are they talking about the taxpayers families who have to pay for this, along with all the other things these people being here are costing us?

Tonto wrote on Aug 2, 2008 6:47 AM:To you "natives"

We're just trying to keep from getting our butts over run like you did. We aren't as weak!!

watchdog wrote on Aug 2, 2008 6:50 AM:You forgot to add...and agree to stop living 14 to a one bedroom house and parking 6 vehicles on the street in front because you have 8 people living in your garage!!

Si se puede... wrote on Aug 2, 2008 7:56 AM:Si, se puede:

Reduce the horrible traffic congestion in our freeways and roads.
Reduce the number of unlicenced and uninsured drivers.
Reduce the congestion in Hospitals and Emergency Services.
Make more jobs available to US citizens.
Improve the quality of life in our communities )not "barrios".
Reduce the trash produced by our "uninvited" foreign guests, which throwing things out of car windows and on the ground, would seems acceptable in their countries of origin.
Si, se puede!...
Kindly assist all of them, their ... kids, and on going pregnant women, relocate back to where they came from (at their expense, of course).
What a nice dream! and what a blow to "La Raza","Maldef" and the other activist punks.

To Abraham from Jaque wrote on Aug 2, 2008 8:09 AM:To answer your question, our grandparents and their grandparents and their grandparents built this nation up to what it is, thus allowing me access to the institutions to get an education and get a "comfy" job. Subsequently, from the above results in home ownership, under standing fiscal responsibility and the like.

Mexico has had its chance and your fellows citizens from there continue to rape and pillage their own people/resources.
Moreover, the "demand" you speak of are jobs, hosted by people who worked for money and reinvested it here for others to get jobs.

The "disproportion" of wealth is noone else's fault but Mexico, its gov't and its citizens. Don't blame USA for it and the residing sentiment of the deportation idea.

Pull you head out!

Jesse wrote on Aug 2, 2008 8:27 AM:This is another idiotic idea hatched by do nothing illegal immigration loving Bush administration. Oh yeah, most of our elected officials are kowtowing to the Mexican government because they fear the Hispanic voting bloc. When will the Americans wake up and see that these illegal aliens are in this country ILLEGALLY. It is comparable to someone coming to your house uninvited, using your property, eating your food, taking your money and then refusing to leave.

As an ER nurse, I see these illegal aliens everyday using the hospital services. By the way, it is mandated by law that anyone showing up at the ER must be treated. I say treat them and then deport them, have their native countries pay for their treatment, NOT YOU AND ME.

And yes, US citizens who have health insurance are asked to pay their deductibles. Can you guess what the illegal aliens pay? Can you spell N-A-D-A?

confused wrote on Aug 2, 2008 9:13 AM:I know, since We all imigrated here we should all be deported to our country of origin right? No wait a minute my family assimilated into society and did there best to be AMERICAN my family did not fly another nations flag talk our native language once we learned english even though it might have been broken (even in the home)If they want to live here then they need to act like it follow the rules and act like this is america there home, not america a place to use and get over on

Nick wrote on Aug 2, 2008 9:16 AM:Ummmmmmmmm. I think Pedro needs to go back to history class. The desert North of Mexico and parts of Texas, N. Mexico, and Arizona were mostly unpopulated by Mexicans until the late 20th Century. The only people living in the dry, hot, and very uninhabitable areas were Native Americans.
It cracks me up when people claim Mexicans were here first, because Mexicans aren't even a race and Native Americans pre-date the ... offspring of Spaniards, Euorpeans and Indians in these areas anyways.
Back to school Pedro....!

Scooter wrote on Aug 2, 2008 9:46 AM:Wow, Abraham, what are you, a public defender? You have way too much defense for illegal activity, and rationalize this behavior ("why don't you take some action and self-sacrifice your comfortable job in the name of this glorious nation by accepting the pay the illegals take for the job they do"?)by trying to find a benefit from it. How 'bout this: These f