MILITARY: Marine Corps battles CBS in brewing First Amendment case

September hearing in skirmish over outtakes of Haditha squad leader interview

By MARK WALKER - Staff Writer | Saturday, August 2, 2008 6:05 PM PDT

Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich leaves his arraignment at Camp Pendleton in February. His interview with a '60 Minutes' correspondent, which was broadcast last year on the program, is at the center of a brewing First Amendment case pitting the Marine Corps against CBS. (Photo by Bill Wechter - staff photographer)

CAMP PENDLETON ---- The Marine Corps is going to battle with CBS in what could become a prominent First Amendment case stemming from one of the highest-profile incidents arising out of the Iraq war.

At issue is whether government prosecutors should have access to outtakes from a "60 Minutes" interview of a Marine who in 2005 led his squad in the killing of 24 Iraqi civilians, including several women and children.

Legal experts and media advocates say the chances of the Marine Corps prevailing over the revered media giant are slim.

Several news organizations have joined CBS in its fight to keep prosecutors from seeing the outtakes of the interview with the squad leader, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich.

Those groups include CNN, The Associated Press, the National Association of Broadcasters, NBC, National Public Radio, The Washington Post, several newspaper chains and the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press.

In a brief filed with the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces in Washington, the groups say a lower court ruling that compels the network to hand over unaired material from its interview with Wuterich raises substantial First Amendment issues. The brief was filed in advance of a September hearing

"It is difficult enough for journalists to convince reluctant sources to submit to rigorous interviews," the media groups say in their brief filed July 21. "It is even more challenging when the sources ... suspect that journalists may be investigative arms of the government."

The interview was conducted by CBS reporter Scott Pelley before the Marine Corps filed charges in December 2006 against Wuterich and seven other Camp Pendleton Marines tied to the Haditha killings.

In a declaration he filed with the court, Pelley wrote that compelling reporters to hand over material that wasn't broadcast or published could lead to decisions to stop pursuing controversial stories.

"The press might well decide to avoid certain controversial subjects or subjects likely to lead to criminal prosecutions," wrote Pelley, a veteran journalist who has covered the White House, the Middle East and been a "60 Minutes" correspondent since 1999. "Protection ... is essential to the effective functioning of the press."

'Fishing expedition'

There are apparently hours of videotape shot but not used during the March 2007 "60 Minutes" broadcast of its interview with Wuterich, who led his squad in a search for insurgents that attacked his men with a roadside bomb and small-arms fire in Haditha on Nov. 19, 2005.

When Marine prosecutor Capt. Nicholas Gannon argued for access to the interview in February, he said Wuterich "apparently admits in an unaired segment that he did in fact order his men to 'shoot first and ask questions later.' "

In February, a military judge at Camp Pendleton ruled that prosecutors' attempts to get the outtakes amounted to a "fishing expedition."

The judge, Lt. Col. Jeffrey Meeks, said then that he did not believe the unaired material would shed any new light on the allegations against Wuterich, who faces nine counts of voluntary manslaughter and related offenses.

Prosecutors appealed Meeks' ruling, arguing that they suspected the outtakes contained material that might implicate Wuterich and further strengthen their evidence against him.

In June, the Navy-Marine Corps Court of Criminal Appeals sided with the Marine Corps, directing Meeks to view the outtakes in private to determine if there was any relevant material and then rule on whether it should be shown to prosecutors.

CBS promptly appealed the finding to the higher military court.

Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, said the Marine Corps is misguided in its attempts to get the outtakes.

"The judge said he thought it was a fishing expedition and he was right," she said during a telephone interview from her office in Washington. "This was a 26-minute interview and if they had anything particularly outrageous it would have been aired. If word went out that '60 Minutes' would turn over its outtakes no one would ever talk to them and the public would lose because information would start to dry up."

A House version of a bill now in Congress that would grant a shield to reporters from subpoenas in similar cases would render the Marine Corps' effort moot. The Senate version of the legislation, however, would not grant protection in the Wuterich case outtakes. The bill was stalled in the Senate as of last week.

Much of the argument coming from CBS in advance of the scheduled Sept. 17 hearing before the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces is rooted in procedural issues. But a network attorney said that even letting the judge see the outtakes could set a dangerous precedent.

"From the perspective of the press, it is intrusive," attorney Lee Levine said during a telephone interview last week. "That's why we feel the (lower) court has lost its way."

In its brief, CBS argues that Meeks relied on existing military case law and its civilian equivalent that generally limits the government from forcing reporters to disclose material not published or broadcast.

"Civilian courts ... have had no difficulty applying these principles to quash subpoenas to journalists, particularly where the subpoenaing party is merely speculating about the value of the materials it seeks," the network says.

The Navy-Marine Corps Court of Appeals also exceeded its authority, CBS argues, in directing Meeks to review the unaired material without first directing he consider reporter privilege.

Scott Silliman, a Duke University law professor and director of the Center on Law, Ethics and National Security, said there is at least one military justice case involving the Air Force outtakes which were eventually ordered non-releasable.

"It would appear that CBS has a pretty strong argument," he said.

'Shoot first'

Wuterich's attorneys have said they agreed to the interview to "humanize" their client, who had been portrayed in some media reports as leading his men in a wanton rampage following the bombing that occurred during a resupply convoy, destroying a Humvee and killing a lance corporal.

Immediately after the explosion, five men who emerged from a car that drove up to the convoy were shot and killed. No weapons were found on any of those men or in their car during a later search.

Over the next few hours, Wuterich and his squad from Camp Pendleton's 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment stormed a series of nearby homes, resulting in the deaths of 19 others including several women and children.

One of four officers charged with failing to investigate the shootings was acquitted during a jury trial at Camp Pendleton earlier this year.

Charges against three other officers were eventually withdrawn or dismissed, although the Marine Corps is appealing the dismissal of charges against the battalion commander at Haditha, Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani.

He is charged with dereliction of duty for failing to order a full-scale probe of the civilian deaths.

Of the four enlisted men originally charged with murder in the shootings, charges have been withdrawn or dismissed against all but Wuterich. The murder charges against him were eventually amended to manslaughter.

Wuterich's court-martial was supposed to start in June but has been delayed indefinitely by the "60 Minutes" issue. He and Chessani remain on duty at Camp Pendleton pending resolution of their cases.

Contact staff writer Mark Walker at (760) 740-3529 or mlwalker@nctimes.com.

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10 comment(s)[-]Go to Top

Bill wrote on Aug 3, 2008 7:07 AM:Seems funny that this paper would print anything about the first amendment seeing as they seem to practice censorship of these very comments on there stories!

Massachusetts Democrat wrote on Aug 3, 2008 10:18 AM:An assault on the Constitution by Secretary Winter and his NCIS storm troopers is not new news.

They've turned it into an art form.

Bo wrote on Aug 3, 2008 10:45 AM:Enough of the witch hunts! The only American murderers in this war are Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Rumsfield; GO GET THEM!

Roy B wrote on Aug 3, 2008 11:26 AM:I hope CBS wins this one. I hope even more that if this ever goes to trial, the military jury will find Staff Sgt. Wuterich NOT GUILTY. There are very mitigating circumstances involved in this case, as there have been in all of these prosecutions. Second guessing from a distance and by time is easy, but wrong. Hey, a roadside bomb had just blown up, killing a Marine buddy, Iraqis pull up fast, jump out of their car ~~ what should Sgt Wuterich have done? Interviewed them, searched their car and read them their rights? That's not how it works in combat when things are hot and heavy. He was told to clear the area, and that's what he did. If innocents were killed, so be it, that's how it goes in war and in close combat. They could have shelled the area from a distance with artillery or called in an air strike and the results would have been even more drastic in loss of life. So he and his men did it up close and personal. Let him go. He's been through ENOUGH.

Patriot wrote on Aug 3, 2008 12:42 PM:Tell me why Military prosecutors asked to view Wuterich materials on a Chessani appeal? They are two different cases, how can Government prosecutors file for Wuterich files under a Chessani appeal? I guess it's ok as they filed Grayson evidence under Wuterich.

Roy B wrote on Aug 3, 2008 1:58 PM:Seems to me that the government's struggle for additional evidence shows that they have a weak case based on what evidence they do have. Do they bring charges and THEN hunt for the evidence to substatiate them? None of these cases should have been charged or prosecuted. Look at what has happened to almost all of them: "Of the four enlisted men originally charged with murder in the shootings, charges have been withdrawn or dismissed against all but Wuterich..."

crazy wrote on Aug 3, 2008 3:21 PM:the prosecutors don't have any real evidence so make something up quick, the case is going down the crapper. Marine officers looking for a way to make themselves look good at the expense of an enlisted Marine. nothing has changed, now I remembered why I retired.

Daniel wrote on Aug 3, 2008 3:58 PM:"revered" media giant ??????? CBS will win this one, but it's not because Mark Walker REVERES them, it's because for now at least there is still the pretense that they're journalists. But, Wow! Revered!!??!?!?!?! I guess it's true that no other field gives more awards and pats itself on the back more than the media. CBS -- 2 words: Dan Rather. "But it COULD be true." Dang, Walker, please, tell me some editor put that in there, k? PLEASE!

to crazy wrote on Aug 3, 2008 4:02 PM:These are not Marine Officers. They are lawyers who went to school paid for by you and I and they have to fulfill their contracts before go work in the real world. They don't want to be there, and are only looking to make names for themselves. Then when they get out the will become defense attorneys and defend the prosecuted marines against their buddies still working on the inside. Vicious circle.

AWcryinoutloud wrote on Aug 3, 2008 5:51 PM:Meeks and Gannon; what a team they make. Fishing expedition? Oh yeah! Am waiting for someone to give the guy a pole and some worms. Gannon doing what he does best again; making something of nothing. Wuterich had the go-ahead to clear houses. This was a prolonged fight with the dregs of the earth. What's the problem with Gannon? Clearing houses "IS" shooting first and asking questions later. Gannon needs a reality check. Meeks seems to need one also if he, as a Marine, can't understand WAR!!!

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