LETTERS: NCT, Aug. 7, 2008
By Readers of the North County Times | ∞
The governor needs to knock some heads
Gov. Schwarzenegger does not care about the little people. His pictures on Page 1 of your Aug. 1 edition show a man, with his henchmen, going to an execution. I have had letters published in the North County Times regarding the heartless attitude of Gov. Schwarzenegger toward injured workers: "Workers' compensation is poison to California business," he said.
Gov. Schwarzenegger's complete lack of human compassion is made manifest, beyond doubt, in the terrible actions he has unilaterally taken against the defenseless little people in this state. "Governor slashes jobs, wages," your headline read. He threw people out of work, decimated their wages ---- why? Because he could not knock heads together to get a balanced budget.
I see these sad, innocent people with young families made to suffer ---- for what? I know what it is like to knock heads together to get things resolved. I have done this many times on the many courts where I have sat as a judge. It can be done, and it is done all the time. But no; true to his character, he will not knock heads together, but he again ... attacks and makes scapegoats of the defenseless little people.
Anthony Abbott
Escondido
USS Indianapolis was a heavy cruiser
"Today in History," July 30, inaccurately described the USS Indianapolis as a battle cruiser. She was actually a heavy cruiser. Like most American heavy cruisers that fought in World War II, she was armed with a main battery of nine 8-inch caliber guns in three triple turrets, displaced about 10,000 tons and had a top speed of 33 knots. In contrast, battle cruisers were capital ships armed with battleship-caliber guns that sacrificed armor protection for greater speed.
HMS Renown, a British battle cruiser that served in both world wars, carried a main battery of six 15-inch guns in three twin turrets, displaced about 40,000 tons and could achieve a speed of 30 knots.
As capital ship design improved, the "fast battleship" evolved and eclipsed the battle cruiser. Ironically, some American, British and Japanese battle cruisers canceled by the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922 were completed as aircraft carriers and became the nemesis of the battleship. The only American battle cruisers to see action were the Alaska and Guam, completed in 1944 with nine 12-inch main guns on 34,000 tons displacement.
Jim Mosher
Encinitas
Show some fiscal responsibility
I sympathize with the swimmers who will now have to wait to get their Alga Norte pool ("Alga Norte Park project put on hold," July 23. They have only the city of Carlsbad to blame, which for years has been spending money foolishly on projects like the overpriced golf course and the vacant Farmers Insurance Building, which at one point was to become a grand new City Hall.
I hope that in the future Carlsbad practices some fiscal responsibility so we can, in fact, spend money on what our city needs ---- open space acquisition, as mandated by voters, a redeveloped downtown village, and yes, a pool.
Thomas Arnold
Carlsbad
Yes vote allows hospital to grow
I am a lifetime resident of Oceanside and was born at the Oceanside Community Hospital on North Horne Street. ... Thankfully, there were a number of business people who had the forethought to start a hospital here, and it has grown to a health care facility.
As a young man, I had many a wound treated and stitched by a corpsman at the emergency room on Horne Street. I am also thankful that the board members we have elected for more than 40 years have controlled and directed the management team members to develop Tri-City Medical Center into the facility it is today.
As members of a hospital district, we have the ability to voice our opinion on the direction of the hospital. A yes vote allows our community hospital to grow and keep up with the rest of the world in medical services and the ever-changing restrictions and requirements imposed by the state and federal regulators. A no vote could send Tri-City the way of some of the San Diego and Los Angeles hospitals that have closed in the recent past. ... Where would you prefer to drive to for care ---- Escondido or Encinitas? Take it from someone who has counted the minutes while rushing a family member to Tri-City for emergency care: Those minutes do count.
Dan Moore
Oceanside
Ah, the good old days!
Frank Lancelotti ((Letters, July 28) takes us back to the days of yore for guidance regarding homosexual marriage, quoting Theodosius, an early Christian Roman emperor: "When a man marries in the manner of a woman, we order the statutes to arise, the laws to be armed with an avenging sword, that those infamous persons who are now, or who hereafter may be guilty may be subjected to exquisite punishment" (Codex Theodosianus 9.7.3). Punishments in those days leaned heavily toward burning, though torture was quite popular, also. It's instructive to look back to see how far we've come from those barbaric days, and reflect on how much further we have to go.
Today, among other guidance, we have the moral belief of a specific religious group, a belief this group chose from a set of Biblical injunctions, some of which the group wishes enacted into law. In opposition, the court says there's no civil basis for discriminating against homosexuals by banning same-sex marriage. Additionally, both the American Anthropological Association and the American Psychiatric Association agree that there is no social or psychological basis for banning same-sex marriages. AAA has an informative Internet presentation on this at www.aaanet.org/press/an/0405if-comm4.htm.
John Terrell
Fallbrook
Crisis at home multiplying
With a massive mortgage and expanding housing crisis, erratic stock market, skyrocketing gasoline, food and commodities prices, rising inflation, huge job layoffs and an immensely unpopular president and Congress prosecuting an obscenely expensive Iraqi war, one wonders what could be worse. How about the fact that while millions of our legal fellow Americans, including our brave military, teachers and nurses, suffer and go without, we are literally forced to spend billions of our precious tax dollars on millions of illegal aliens for numerous social services.
While California staggers under a horrific budget crisis, our schools, hospitals and communities are being swamped and bifurcated by an unrelenting flood of lawless illegal aliens who take precious resources away from our legal citizens and our children. Does this seem right to you?
Many of our globalist leaders, including Bush, Obama and McCain, would entice Americans to sign on to a "declaration of dependence" on ever more highly addictive government programs. This presidential carnival is primarily about promoting amnesty for illegals as a precursor to the dangerously divisive North American Union with Mexico, which will be our nation's biggest nightmare ever.
Gary Walker
Escondido
Another right bites the dust
Another of our rights has just been stolen. Our paranoid Big Brother government has just allowed any government official to confiscate your laptop any and every time you go out of or come back into our country. At all ports of entry from Lindbergh Field to the Otay Mesa border crossing, they can take your computer for no reason at all, then copy any and all of your private files. They can keep your laptop as long as they want. All proprietary as well as your private information is theirs without any warrant or probable cause.
Who says presidential Supreme Court justice choices don't matter?
Nathan Wesley
Solana Beach
Do your homework on Tri-City bond
Well, I guess we can tell where the North County Times stands on Proposition A. The only reason for publishing a letter by someone as blatantly uninformed as James Bryan Greenlaw is because it helps to promote the agenda of the paper (Letters, July 31).
The writer states that, "The cost of the bond per household is very small; in many cases, about the price of a good cup of coffee." At about $21.98 annually for each $100,000 of assessed property value for up to 40 years, my "good cup of coffee" will cost me about $7,000. Either Mr. Greenlaw drinks liquid platinum or he lives in a cardboard box.
Don't be fooled by false information masquerading as fact. Do your homework. Vote no on A.
Linda Sheldone
Carlsbad
League urges yes vote on A
The North Coast League of Women Voters commends the North County Times for its excellent coverage of the Tri-City Medical Center's Bond Measure A, and we strongly urge voters to support it.
The recent earthquake in the Los Angeles area demonstrates the urgent need for Tri-City to meet the state's deadline for new hospital earthquake safety standards. Enlarging the emergency department and adding an urgent care center are equally critical in order to reduce overlong wait times and continue to serve a rapidly growing, and aging, population. The modern medical technology demanded by patients requires an equally modern facility. ...
The league has observed Tri-City Board of Directors meetings for more than a decade and has noted continuous improvement in both planning and administration. ... The consultants to the board have sought citizens' views throughout the process of developing the proposed changes and have also reworked the plans in order to employ several contractors to do the building and retrofitting in phases, thereby reducing projected costs and enabling work to begin as soon as the bond measure passes. The League urges health care district residents to vote yes on the special election mail ballot received this week.
Margaret Dornish
co-president
North Coast League of Women Voters
Carlsbad
Those defending marriage care about children
Regarding Dick Eiden's letter(July 30)that says that same-sex marriage is a "civil rights" issue.
Huh? Apparently Mr. Eiden wants to avoid any discussion on the consequences children face when raised in a home without both a mother and father. There are homes with single parents, but there's a difference between coping with unfortunate circumstances and enacting public policy that deliberately deprives children of a mom and a dad.
Mr. Eiden says it's about love and equality. He obviously misunderstands that those defending marriage as the union of one man and one woman are not just concerned with themselves. They are concerned about the long-term effect on children. ... Nonpartisan social science research tells us that children raised in a home without both a mom and a dad are more likely to use drugs ... alcohol, more likely to engage in premature sexual activity ... have higher depression and suicide rates, and have higher school drop-out rates.
Despite the claims of same-sex couples, there simply is no social research on children raised by same-sex parents. As a progressive liberal, I'm sure that Mr. Eiden is adamantly opposed to research using animals. [Does he] feel the same way about using children as guinea pigs in human social experiments in the name of "civil rights?"
Dan Shapiro
Oceanside
Obama's dreams will be our nightmare
Every time I hear Obama make another promise on what he is going to do, I can't help but wonder if he thinks about how that is going to be accomplished, or if he just blurts it out because it sounds good? Besides the many empty promises, he [has talked about] reparations for blacks and for the American Indians. Does he have any idea what that would entail? ...
Then there is the "n" word that only blacks can use. How black? Can Obama use that word? The Rev. Jackson does, and was forgiven. His favorite rap artists use it a lot. Chris Rock found he is part white, and he uses it. Maybe Imus has blacks in his genealogy.
Frankly, I'm sick of all Obama's supporters and all the reverend's supporters and what they stand for. ... America needs a president who will move on to the issues we are facing today and give America our pride back. Other countries must really think we have not only lost our minds, but that we've become a bunch of whiners! ... Obama's lack of experience and his dreams that we all can believe ... leave me seeing a national nightmare.
Christine Martinelli
Escondido
Vote for more of the same
I agree with Scott Harris ("In real world, no three-hour lunches," Aug. 3) that we need to elect McCain for a Bush third term. This country is crying out for an ... old man to take the place of the ... president we now have. It would be a mistake to have an eloquent, well-educated, young and vigorous president. We need someone who will continue and enlarge the mess we are now in. Let's make the richest 1 percent of Americans richer while we stuff the other 99 percent down the toilet.
When that 3 a.m. call comes through, I want a man who will be totally disoriented, if he can wake up at all. Remember, let's all vote Bush-McCain for more of the same.
Max Savin
Escondido
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Ron wrote on Aug 7, 2008 5:54 AM:To quickly review for "liberaljim"
{Aug 6} @11:44 AM:
JFK once said: "A rising tide lifts all boats." Sliding scale socialists:
"A rising red tide smothers all liberties."
Another thing that is just striking to me about sliding scale socialists, is that they are pretty much like their founder, their mooches.
You know, for most of Karx Marx's life, he didn't work. In fact, that's why I think he wrote this theory, to fit his own wishful desires. The story of Marx's life reads like many who post here, "oh, sure.. I love the poor, but don't make me pay, make them pay."
Marx, himself, was a bit of a drinker, had way too many kids to support himself, and lived some of his off Friedrich Engels. He is the original "welfare bourgeois." You know, those people who live off other's, yet claim they ain't gettin their fair share?
But to the sliding scale socialist philanthropist, the Capitalist is a useful tool because he has the money.
Now, we all know that Philanthropy is the act of donating your own money, goods, time or effort to support a charitable cause, but to the Marxist, your to be philanthropic "with the Other guy's money." Not your own. And they are proud of it too! It's almost like the new nobility, just as long as you don't touch "their money."
Oh, sure.. they'll say "I give my time, I give my own money", but again, actions versus talk. They love to talk about those who have more than their fair share, while they, themselves are struggling. It's like playing three card monty with these guys.
But basically, they want other's to pay the fair share for them, while they get the credit. And that is key to undrstanding a sliding scale socialist.
Which is also a key trait to Marx, himself. You know, all that talk about "the sweat of one's brow?" Well, Marx, who hated manual labor didn't believe he should be forced to work to support other people. Oh, no.. He wouldn't suport himself, IF he could get the other guy to do it for him. Very key. Providing things to himself from the sweat of the "other guy's brow." Exactly 180 degrees out of phase.
We see this too currently with many things, healthcare for one example.
Healthcare for the sliding scale socialist should be controlled by the people. It's one of those "means of production things, were they view this as it should be publically owned, and therefore equally accessable to all. Forget that "other workers" are sweating, and are involved in the industry, lab techs, nurses, etc. But it is felt by the sliding scale socialist philanthropists that those inside the medical workers inside the medical establishment should be forced to give up, for the good of all. Well, what does this mean in real terms? Well, it means that those inside the industry must make it cheaper, or free, so that ALL will have access to it. In real terms, they are telling those who make a living by this sweaty work, to live on less. Sound's good, right? That is until your the worker being asked to give up. Remember, the rule is, as long as I don't suffer, then I'm for it. And further, If I think I'll get something out of the deal, even better.
Always the takers, these chaps.
What about the "other workers" inside the medical industry, Well.. "they should just feel good, that they are doing it for the greater good." In the mean time, they have all the bills and issues you and I have, home mortgages, car payments, tuition payments, electric bills.
A key trait is that it's always someone else who is being asked to give, never themselves.
More to follow.
Ron wrote on Aug 7, 2008 6:28 AM:I will take that compliment from "More On Ron" {Aug 6} @7:51 AM:
"Ron, ever the anti-tax warrior..."
Yes, I do see myself as attempting to revive the anti-tax spirit of our Founders, and the thinking that a small central government was best.
Today, that thinking is 180 degrees out of phase. In fact, the New Patriotism as defined by the Leftists is that paying more taxes is a good thing.
Ah, but always the sliding scale socialist, just not MY taxes. It's OK if you tax the other guy, but.. stay away from MY money.
Fairness, they claim is the issue. But, when it come to actually practising fairness, they are.. shall we say? Selective.
And I do question one's intelligence if they keep chanting the left's mantra, yet have absolutely no clue as to how our current tax structure actually works. When nearly 80% of all income taxes in California are paid by those making over $500,000 a year, and those same people are small business owners who employ 70% of all Californians,
you darn right, I question your own knowledge. Cause if you know all that, and still insist they "aren't paying their fair share", then it's one of two things, my friend. Either, your not so bright and intelligent, as you say you are. Or, your a full fledged radical socialist. So, if you insist your intelligent, then your a full fledged raging socialist, in my book.
Just saying...
Now, did I really question whether you had a job? I might have said your maybe under-employed, for what you want.
You know, my kid's had this problem too while they live at home. Of course, I covered the rent, the food, their medical insurance, and they had "their money" to spend on their car. This is another trait, I forgot to mention eariler about sliding scale socialists. When they want something, then it should be a right. No, they shouldn't have to go out, and work hard in school to educate themselves to earn more. Or they shouldn't have to be put out by having two jobs. No, to the sliding scale socialist, I'll just invent the right. This new right, so I can benefit. And don't you just love this?
All the while they are talking about the poor, and the downtrodden, they are secretly coveting it for themselves.
It's classic sliding scale socialist mentality. They want YOU to think, they care, and they are doing everything possible so that poor family down the street is being helped personally by them. All the while, it's for them. {Come on, you can say it!}
And when they finally do admit it, then they will say: "Well, it really should be a right to all."
Again, it's about getting credit, kind of an emotional payoff too. And that's interesting too. Never to be under estimated, the "Emotional Payoff."
Really big in Lib circles. It's the perception of being one way, yet secretly, or sometimes openly, doing the other.
Take Al Gore for example, on climate change. Excuse, after excuse, after excuse will be made for this one man, who claims the world is coming to an end. Yet.. every Leftist will protect his carbon output, his excessive CO2 production, because "he's spreading the word." Sound's almost Biblical, doesn't it? That's because it is!
Oh, yes.. for you, for me.. you know.. the "little people", we must reduce, we must not pollute. But him? He's too valuable, he's special, he's unique.
How do the North Korean's say it?
Oh, yes.. "Dear Leader."
Chuck wrote on Aug 7, 2008 6:30 AM:>>>Let's make the richest 1 percent of Americans richer while we stuff the other 99 percent down the toilet.>>> Come on, Max, admit it. You don't know anything about Hussein, except he's promised you alot of freebees. And thats what you really want. You think you deserve it all for free, as do all the rest of the liberals
Ron wrote on Aug 7, 2008 6:47 AM:One has got to wonder, if Anthony Abbott understand's we are in a downturned economy?
I mean.. what's the governor to do, raise the taxes on all the rest of us, so these people can keep a job? That's rather "Hooverish" don't ya think?
Of course he does, he's a sliding scale socialist! He's of the mind that no one should EVER lose their job. You just raise the tax, on other people, of course.
But this is the compassion of the left.
It is the New Patriotism, according to the left.
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 6:51 AM:From yesterday, "Tire Checker" at 8:19PM questioned whether I suffer from hubris.
Nope. Not never.
I pointed out that the "Recommended" tire pressure is often "Recommended" by the manufacturer for reasons other than optimal treadwear or optimal traction.
In my experience and the experience of those I know,
More often than not, at least in the past (before 2005), the "Recommended" tire pressure is a compromise between optimal treadwear (higher, proper pressure) and smoothness of ride (lower, sub-optimal pressure).
Do I suffer one of the "Deadly Sins", Pride?
Sometimes.
The bail on the two who were robbing sandwich shops is $1,000,000.44.
That 44 cents is a nice touch, don't you think?
I like the Mahalo, by the way.
Regards, Alf.
Ron wrote on Aug 7, 2008 6:54 AM:Oh... and I gotta get this in, before I return to making sure some of you get your monthly checks.
{remember, I do more before 9am, than most people do all day}
Did I hear this right the otherday?
Now, Obama has been beating up on the Bush/cheney Energy plan for the longest time. He's been saying it's a failure, it doesn't focus on alternatives, and it's only a big windfall to the oil companies.
and yet.. He Voted for it?
Now, he's explaining this, as he explained his FISA vote, as he explained the wrong Rev. Wright, as he explains everything...
That the Bill provided HUGE incentives for alternatives.
So, the logical question is: If it provides HUGE incentives for alternatives, why is it a failure?
Is this not like the Kerry: "I voted for it, before I voted against it?"
Just saying...
doofus wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:08 AM:Google Judge Anthony Abbott and see if you believe what he says after reading up on him.
Ms M wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:10 AM:John
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 12:23 AM:Bush bashers (he deserves it) are straw men taking the attention away from Obama....John, Bush bashers have a reason to bash Bush. I've been asking for days now for the cons to give us libs a reason to embrace Bush. And you know what, I haven't heard a peep. Just name calling. So why don't YOU give me a reason not to bash Bush. Give me a list of the wonderful things he has done. Let us know that the mess we are in is just our imagination. I'm waiting. Until then, Bush and the cons have done major damage to our country and our bashing is justified.
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:21 AM:Well, "Ron" at 5:54AM,
IF -
"A rising red tide smothers all liberties.",
THEN -
GWB is a rising red tide.
Under the rising red tide of GWB,
Do we, the People, have fewer Constitutional Rights NOW than we had 8 years ago?
Have our 4th Amendment Rights been being eroded by GWB, Congress and the USA Patriot Act at the direction of GWB?
IF the answer is YES to either or both,
THEN GWB is, indeed, the rising red tide.
Do we want the rising red tide of McGWB for our next president?
Not I.
Regards, Alf.
Simple Math wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:24 AM:Prejudice clouds people's minds. Dan Shapiro can't seem to figure out that two parents equals two parents. Of course two parents are better than one - unless one of the parents is an abuser or cheater or beer-swilling, NASCAR-obsessed lout. I know several lesbian couples who are raising children and all are doing quite well. Of course lesbians and gay men aren't inherently any better than heterosexuals, but there is no reason to believe their homes aren't at least as healthy for children. Dan Shapiro is blowing smoke. I guess they gave up on the "protect marriage" argument because it didn't hold water either.
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:40 AM:Well, "Ms M" at 7:10AM, although I don't qualify as a "con",
GWB has -
Made us FEEL safer by ensuring that we don't see the day to day violence that goes on in Iraq.
Made us not FEEL the pain of the astronomical cost of his folly by borrowing the hundreds of Billions of dollars (from foreign countries).
Made us not FEEL the hardship of war by not reinstituting the Draft. Conscription has a way of making many more people actually notice. The death of someone who was forced into involuntary servitude and killed is somehow more tragic than the death of someone who volunteered to risk life and limb and is killed.
That's it for this post.
Regards, Alf.
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:51 AM:Will Dan Shapiro also "protect" marriage by determining which 50 percent of those who get married will wind up getting divorced,
And then making sure that those people do not get married in the first place?
This has NOTHING to do with Protecting marriage,
This has to do with religious zealots attempting to control others who are doing what they do not approve of
AND having the audacity to want to have their equal rights.
Will Dan Shapiro screen every heterosexual couple to ensure that they will make fit parents?
What Dan Shapiro does not want to face is that every marriage is an "experiment" because no one knows the future with 100 percent accuracy.
Regards, Alf.
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:54 AM:My 6:51 AM post should have read
"The bail on the two who were robbing sandwich shops is $1,000,000.44 each."
I still think that the 44 cents is a nice touch, don't you?
Regards, Alf.
Ms M wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:19 AM:Alf
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:40 AM:...Thanks Alf, I been waiting. Let's see which comes first, another writer accusing libs of bashing Bush with no reason to not bash or a list of all the wonderful things Bush and the cons have done in the last 7 plus years.
Wishing everyone (cons & libs & indies) a very special day!
liberaljim wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:21 AM:Ron is still howling at the moon this morning. Ron continues to prove he has only superficial understanding of socialism and he is still terrified of all those (maybe 5) communists remaining in the world. Ron repeats his straw man argument that liberals want free medicine. Advocates of a national single payer health plan have never said that it would be free, it would just cost considerably less than the for profit system we have now. The U. S. has operated a single payer national health plan under Medicare for nearly 50 years and it costs 20-30% less than the cost of private for profit plans. The U. S. has a pure socialist health system under the VA. The army's own system worked well until privatization of some services caused deterioation of facilities at their hospitals including the notorious private contractor's shoddy work at Walter-Reed Hospital in Washington. Canada's single payer health plan provides a system that results in a healthier population and considerably longer life span for its citizens. Doctors in Canada do not work for the government, they are paid by the government just as Medicare providers in the U. S. are paid by our Medicare Administration. I enjoy your howling, Ron. It's fascinating to see a person so impressed with his own ignorance that he just can't stop raving. And do you self a huge favor and learn the meaning of "sliding scale." Repeated incorrect use doesn't help your cause at all.
soaring eagle wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:29 AM:Did anyone else noticed that Appolo has proclaimed himself/herself to be the "decider" on this forum? Appolo @ 2:04 pm yesterday stated "Please, conservatives, stop getting your "information" from Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilley - it truly is the "False News" Network. Okay Great Decider, which political analysist's and or news program should we get our info from? Please inform all us minions of the approved list so that we know who is speaking the truth and who is blowing smoke up our posteriors. I always thought the way to go is to listen to a lot of perspectives then draw my own conclusions based on "my" interpretation.
Isn't it just dandy that Liberals seem to know what is good and what is bad for all of us? Sure makes life a lot easier when you don't have to think for yourself.
Thanks Oh Great Decider. I can now give my brain a well deserved vacation.
More On Ron wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:30 AM:After reading Ron's dissertation on taxes and how the founding fathers were against them (wrong again-they were against taxation without representation), i'm compelled to point out that only the conservatives felt that way about limited government, while Jefferson and others did not.
again with the assumptions on a personal level-now i live at home with my parents?
so, without writing a novel, here's the question. tax cuts under bush aren't paid for. do you think it is right to incur debt in the future to pay for tax cuts today? is that fiscally responsible?
i noticed you addressed the individual who wrote the letter, without answering the question. the letter claimed that tax cuts for the rich don't work and you tried to refute this by saying that rebate checks worked-do you understand that the rebate checks were not 'tax cuts for the rich'?
can you answer without insulting anyone, or am i too being stalinist? (another gap in your knowledge-and please use spell check!)
Chuck wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:31 AM:Thank you for the cruiser/battleship lesson, Mr Mosher. But you probably shouldn't have done it, Chris and the rest of the liberal military haters on this board will soon attack you as a slaughterer of women and children
snerd wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:36 AM:to Liberal Jim: So which con commentator do you think Ron picked up "sliding scale" from? He parrots everything they say onto this blog, then pretends that he made it up. Thanks for spanking him pretty good this morning, but you'll find it's really better to ignore him and deal with the rational bloggers here.
Paul wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:36 AM:One has got to wonder, if Anthony Abbott understand's we are in a downturned economy?
i thought it was psychological and we are all whiners. anyway, we should not be surprised that republican economics have resulted in a poor economy-as my grandma used to say, 'twas ever thus'
since the republican great depression of 1929 we've had to deal with the greedheads.
here's some common sense for you: the economy is about 2/3 consumer spending-when you want to stimulate the economy tax relief for the poor and
middle class works better-they spend a far higher % of their income (sometimes more than 100%)
supply side econ has never worked, and results in debt as far as the eye can see...
Sorry Dan wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:37 AM:I am a single parent of two children and neither one of my children use drugs, or alcohol, my youngest is not engaging in sexual activity and the other is an adult and I can not dictate what she does. But I can assure you that I instilled in my children moral values that they will not betray. How dare you use such a broad brush against all single parents. Believe me Sir, those things affect all of us yes even "whole" families have children who are addicted to drugs and engage in early sexual activity. It depends on the parents or parent your implication shows your ignorance and I feel sorry for you and your myopic viewpoint. Give me a break single parents do produce good people.
to Ron wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:39 AM:Here let me save you some time: Alinsky, communism, socialist, Hussein, Marx. Could you be more out of touch?
soaring eagle wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:41 AM:Okay Ms M, I think GWB's biggest accomplishment was convincing Conservatives that he is a Conservative.
Chuck wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:44 AM:"Ron, ever the anti-tax warrior..."
Liberals want tax increases on employers just to even the score. They see the small businessmen making more than they do, and out of envy and jealousy, they implore government to tax them more, just to even the score a bit. The difference being, liberals work 9 to 4 and go running to a lawyer if their paycheck is 15 minutes short. The small businessman risks his capital and home to be able to hire people and supply a product or service that makes a profit. And in the end, the small businessman will not pay the higher taxes anyway. His employees and suppliers will. He will pay less for his supplies, he will not give out raises, and benefits and pensions will be cut, and indeed may cut his workforce. So, in the end, the envious liberals will end up paying the tax increase they implore the government to impose. On the hand, normal people will see the successful small business, and instead of peeing their pants with jealousy, will work harder and try to emulate the successful. It is a universal law that when you do more than you get paid to do, you will eventually get paid more for what you do--A concept hateful to liberals
Bill One wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:44 AM:I am a conservative. With that said, I don't want either canidate. McCain represents the same ole same ole. Obama doean't have much of a track record and what I have heard scares me, I think he will up my taxes and he seems to be very libral and scocialistic. Both parties seem to be a mess, the Republicans have been in charge at the federal level and thats a mess and the Democrats have been in charge of California and it's a mess. I wish we could throw them all out and start over.
Chuck wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:49 AM:>>>I am a single parent of two children and neither one of my children use drugs, or alcohol, my youngest is not engaging in sexual activity>>> I was wondering if your kids have come home with their SB777 gender selection paperwork yet?? You know, California thinks it is very important for your kids to select their own gender, by signing a piece of paper. On the other hand, they don't care if your kids can read and write and whether they know math and the physical sciences
treetop eagle wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:51 AM:GWB's Accomplishments
He's done well with that nut Kim Jong II. A disarmament treaty appears to be close
No terror attacks on US soil since 9/11
He appears to have a decent relationship with China
The surge
Got rid of the Taliban with little damage (I know, they are back)
Prescription drug program for us old farts
Making Gaddafi a non factor
He has given Chris, Alf and liberals so much ammunition that republicans won't be in position to control the government for many, many years
I think his biggest accomplishment is raising the bar significantly on the fight against aids
The Heart of a Democrat wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:53 AM:The highest ranking San Diego County Democrat, City Attorney Mike Aguirre, came out in favor of desalinization this morning in usual Democrat form.
Which is to say, he wants to make it a public, not a private enterprise!
He wants the government to run it.
Surprised?
I’m not!
bogie wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:58 AM:Here, here Chuck at 8:44 am. I am a small businessman and my employees made more money than I did the first 5 years.
Bravo, Bill One @ 8:44 am. I think our best choice is a write in for Ron Paul. If he makes a significant showing it may change the way dems and reps operate in the future which is long overdue and much needed.
Nick wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:59 AM:All these Liberal Dems crack me up. They bash on Bush all day long (which I'm cool with), but when I bash on Obama, they get all touchy feely and upset.
Obamas a loser just like GWB. If you can't take it, don't dish it!
Still haven't heard one good argument on why Obama is such a great candidate.
The only one you loonie Obama nuts can come up with is that he's better than McIdiot. Shoot, a trained pig is better than McCain. Shoot, if you could teach the pig to talk, he could recite the same empty words that Obama does....LOL.
Ron wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:06 AM:>>>More On Ron @ 8:30 AM.
QUOTE: "tax cuts under bush aren't paid for."
Question:
Since WHEN do I need to write a justification to the Government to keep more of my hard earned money?
They should be justifying ever single expense with ME!
And that's why your thinking is 180 degrees out of phase.
And just for clarity sake, Our Founders never... NEVER advocated a payroll tax, all revenues to fund the Central Government during their time, were composed of excise taxes, and tariffs.
But.. you knew that already? Didn't you?
That's what makes you a sliding scale socialist.
Focal Point wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:11 AM:Nick[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:59 AM: Ok Nick. You got me convinced. I will write in the, "pig", on my ballot. I think that I shall call him onks. Regards FP.
Gee Nick wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:15 AM:you have really outdone yourself today!! You must be having a bad day your insults, name calling, and Obama bashing have hit an all time low. I think maybe you should slowly step away from your keyboard, take a deep breath, a little break before you make any more comments. Really do you think it is fair to puke all over us. Some of us do look at the glass half full. Some of us do have something positive to say and don't appreciate all your negativity being spewed on us. Take a chill pill, man!!!
to soaring eagle wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:17 AM:Since you asked. Don't watch TV for policy information. Just entertainment. Read. I like Atlantic and Foreign Affairs. You'll get articles from the people who make the policies that affect all of us. Condolezza Rice is the lead article in this months Foreign Affairs. Vanity Fair is also good. A weird magazine in that it starts out with ads on clothing and then segues into really serious articles about politics. So try turning off the TV and reading what the people who make the policies read.
OBSERVATION wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:19 AM:AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS AT WORK:
"Government Accountability Office that details how the Iraqi government is making a handsome profit out of the rising oil prices, but continues to spend only a tiny percentage of that on reconstruction projects. By the end of the year, Iraq could have a budget surplus of as much as $79 billion, but much of it is likely to end up sitting in banks while the United States has appropriated approximately $48 billion for reconstruction projects since the invasion."
To NCT Editor Check It Out EVERYONE wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:26 AM:Well Ms M! You never answered me from 9:51PM last night, HOW did you respond to a post of mine from last night that was never printed? And as of now (9:25AM) is still not on yesterdays string? I'm sure we would all like to know????? We go from Apollo @9:39PM to Enabler @ 9:50PM.
Ms M
[-] wrote on Aug 6, 2008 9:51 PM:
Lights Out Ms M
[-] wrote on Aug 6, 2008 9:41 PM:
THERE WAS AND IS NO 9:41PM POST PRINTED LAST NIGHT!!!!!!
Hey Gary wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:28 AM:We are spending Trillions on the illegal war, and frankly that bothers me more than spending billions on illegals.
Ms M wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:35 AM:Nick
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:59 AM:All these Liberal Dems crack me up. They bash on Bush all day long (which I'm cool with), but when I bash on Obama, they get all touchy feely and upset....Yes we do Ron, we get very upset and then we correct you with Obama's postivis. That's something the cons can't seem to do with Bush.
Bill Too wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:43 AM:(Not to be confused with Bill One)
Enabler wrote on Aug 6, 2008 9:50 PM: How much do those of us who got an education and made fewer mistakes, owe to those who have ALWAYS made stupid mistakes?
I cannot agree with you more. However we are SUPPOSED to be a civilized society. What are we supposed to do with the others? We (at least at this point) cannot just let them die – or execute them to put them out of their misery – as it appears some on this blog would advocate.
You and I are on the same page. I have advanced degrees and I am still taking courses to improve my knowledge.
Years ago I was employed (briefly) by the welfare department. That could be the subject for an entire series of rants in itself. I am not in favor of what we have created –a culture within our society of people who are in the third or fourth generation –or more – of living on welfare because it is SO much easier than working for a living. It is also in this society that problems such as drug dealing and Meth manufacturing is common.
My focus is on those people who – through no fault of their own – are in dire straits and cannot do anything to help themselves. I remember a sweet little old lady that I met in one of the HUD complexes. She had been a stay-at-home wife and mother with just High school education who was widowed in her older years and left without any resources and with no employment training. Was it her fault for marrying a man who had not planned for the future?
I am aware of all of the sources that you mentioned and I assist in getting the needy seniors in touch with them. However – most of these are paid for by tax money that is getting scarcer by the day. Taxes, it seems, are needed more urgently for more important things like giving it to foreign countries – presumably for aiding the needy – but instead seldom gets past the politicians to be used for endless wars. As I pointed out in an earlier post there was a time in this country when we used our tax money for the benefit of OUR OWN people. Charities are feeling the pinch of our economy and are drying up. The local food banks have much smaller supplies than they have had in the past. Our Government commodities program is being, in a large part, diverted to overseas aid to war ravaged areas. I do not begrudge aid to victims of NATURAL disasters, but I object to helping assist in the war problem by making it easier for despots to continue the destruction. If they had to provide for their own people – possibly – just possibly – some of it would stop. Meanwhile we could care for more of our own as we previously did.
There was also a time in our past when families were much closer and the elderly were a cherished part of our lives. The younger generations helped them and protected them – and supported them if necessary. Today families have drifted apart – children no longer have time for the parents –often even for their own children. What is the solution? I really do not know. All I can do is to help the truly needy any way I can.
To Ron on Monthly Checks wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:45 AM:Ron,
My monthly check comes the 1st of each month. Granted I don't do anything for the $25K I receive a year, but, heck, I'm entitled.
So, please, stop the painting of deserving Americans with such a broad brush.
Do you hate me, or is it one of those "I just hate the sin" things, where you don't like the idea of me taking money from the government?
Ms M wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:49 AM:treetop eagle
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:51 AM:GWB's Accomplishments...thanks treetop eagle...but after 7 plus yrs. that's a pretty weak resume and not really enough for me to embrace Bush and stop the bashing. With a list like that it's very obvious that Bush and the cons have done a really bad job deserving our negative opinion.
chuck wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:54 AM:Prosecutors are only asing for a 30 year sentence for the first convicted detainee. I bet the ACLU lawyers Pelosi sent down to Gitmo to defend these terrorists against America, are so glad the court ordered this guy to trial. LOL. I cant wait for the first death penalty, and hear the defendant asks the ACLU what was big hurry to get me to trial, just because you hate Gorge Bush
to Dan Shaprio wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:57 AM:Maybe you don't know what's going on in the world, but same-gender couples are raising children, and have been for a long time. You think there has been no research? I bet you just guessing and wrong, but that's not my point. The point is that they are raising kids anyway and there's nothing you or Prop 8 can do about it. And Sorry Dan @8:37am is correct, there are plenty of single parents going a great job, and plenty of hetero couples making a mess of things. It's about the quality of the parents, not the composition.
Apollo wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:58 AM:Re: Ron (6:28 a.m.)
Ron has a fantasy of himself as a defender of his imaginary "anti-tax spirit of our Founders."
Of course, this merely reflects his penchant for inventing his own historical "facts."
The Founders were not necessarily against taxes per se as much as against taxation without representation.
And to Soaring Eagle's comment (8:29 a.m.) about giving his "brain a well deserved vacation," if he is defending False News, which is actually nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Republican party, from the top down with former Republican strategist and attack-campaign pioneer Roger Ailes at its helm, his brain has already been on vacation longer than he realizes.
And Treetop Eagle (8:51 a.m.) lists the surge as a GWB accomplishment? Where is the political rapprochement it was supposed to enable? Why are troop deaths UP in Afghanistan, in the real fight against the actual terrorists who invaded us?
Chuck wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:59 AM:He is a difference between Bush & Hussein. Bush arrived in Beijing amid tensions over his high-profile speech calling for more freedoms for the Chinese people. To contrast, when Hussein went to Germany, he bashed America in his speech. Hussein wants to be just like Bill Clinton-- take every opportunity to leave the country so he can bash America
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:59 AM:I gotta do it, "treetop eagle" at 8:51AM,
if for no other reason than the line -
"No terror attacks on US soil since 9/11" is used to rationalize un-Constitutional and ILLEGAL behavior by the executive (and legislative) branch(es) of our government.
And to credit GWB for that is, quite frankly, insane.
There were also no terrorist attacks by foreign nationals on U.S. soil between the end of WWII and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, not a one, none.
Who was responsible for that?
The funny thing is that we did not have such open antagonism toward and damage to our Constitutional Rights and toward our Constitution by the executive branch and The Cheney Branch during that time.
We had no terrorist attacks by foreign nationals on U.S. soil between 1993 and Sept. 11, 2001.
Who was responsible for that?
The funny thing is that we did not have such open antagonism toward and damage to our Constitutional Rights and toward our Constitution by the executive branch and The Cheney Branch during that time.
To listen to "treetop eagle", one would "logically" conclude that the only way to prevent terrorist attacks by foreign nationals on our U.S. soil would be by giving up our Constitutional Rights and having McGWB as president.
By the way, GWB has given me enough ammunition for 10 lifetimes.
Regards,Alf
Nick wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:06 AM:I have to agree with you "Bill 1".
Take a look at The Campaign for Liberty.
It might just be the change you are looking for.
Cheers, Nick.
Over It wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:16 AM:I swear, Chuck is the single most unintelligent person I've seen on any of these blogs. His comments are like unwelcome belches in the middle of a meal. What the heck is his fixation on SB777? What's he so worried about? Last time I checked, reading, writing and arithmatic were still on the schools' teaching agendas.
In a perfect world, every child would have the full love, nurturing and attention of at least one parent. And in a perfect world, he/she would be surrounded by loving, supportive family and friends. In a perfect world, a child like this would not have to worry about how many daddies or mommies he/she has because it won't make a bit of difference. Because in a perfect world, people like Chuck and Dan would be so busy minding their own business, keeping their own house clean that they wouldn't have any time to take any one else's inventory or sit in judgment of them.
Professor wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:36 AM:A he/she is a PROFESSOR at the following 3 levels; and other positions such as Adjunct Professor.
1. Assistant Professor
2. Associate Professor
3. Full Professor
The 3 levels also apply to Professors that are volunteer faculty (not paid).
Some Professors are on the tenure track; some are tenured, some are not tenured.
Disease Disaster wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:50 AM:In spite of some spelling errors the paragraph below (from NCTimes 6Aug08) is very important. This is the truth for MANY DISEASES and DISASTERS. The ability to help each other makes us "human" instead of selfish angry people. Eventually, we may need help from others.
"The man is dying of ms slowly and horibly. MS treatment is beyond the means of any middle class family even with insurance and working four jobs. It is not about entitlemen programs. It is about helping your fellow man your fellow American citizen. Your advice is for the dying man to have dignity. In other words, die without bothering you. Again, when this man opened his hand for bread, you prefer to give him a stone. His family has been here since 1880. So what! That has nothing to do with opportunity, success or failure in life, or a person dying from a disease. I again repeat you are a bottom feeder. You talk of dignity. All you have is egotistical false pride. There is a social contract in which community members and state citizens help each other. It covers many areas of mutual responsibility. But, if we follow your conservative individualism, people would suffer. If your house catches on fire, put it out all by yourself!"
Truer Words wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:55 AM:Nick
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:59 AM: Nick, Your getting more of my vote every day! Good old fashion (No McPun intended) thinking is a wonderful thing, to bad so many Libo idealist tree huggers fall so short.
BoltsRUs wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:59 AM:I find Ms. Sheldone's letter re Prop A very amusing. Either she isn't much of a math wiz or she lives on a district property that has an assessed value in the neighborhood of $32 mil. Haven't seen too many of those properties within the TCMC district boundaries. I suppose if my portion were really $7K/yr I would have to really consider a no vote, but since my share is about $80/yr I think I will support it. YES on A!
Big Govt wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:01 AM:We continue to allow govt to interfere with our rights.
This will not save us from our enemies.
Our Big Govt (from Federal to State to City, to School Board etc.) is our enemy.
"Another of our rights has just been stolen. Our paranoid Big Brother government has just allowed any government official to confiscate your laptop any and every time you go out of or come back into our country. At all ports of entry from Lindbergh Field to the Otay Mesa border crossing, they can take your computer for no reason at all, then copy any and all of your private files. They can keep your laptop as long as they want. All proprietary as well as your private information is theirs without any warrant or probable cause."
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:12 AM:The letter from John Terrell is yet another attempt to talk reason and law to people who use the emotions born of religion to "think".
His letter may have an effect on those people who use logic and rational reasoning for their thought process.
Why don't the people who oppose "gay" marriage stop hiding behind religion, get honest and simply say 'I don't like it and I want a law against it'?
I believe such a battle cry would not help them get their way.
Their way is, unfortunately, in direct opposition to the spirit and words of the United States Constitution.
Regards, Alf.
liberaljim wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:16 AM:To snerd: I don't know which commentator Ron got "sliding scale" from. I can only listen to the neo-con commentators for about 15 minutes before I get sick of the lies and the liberal bashing. If I ever require a lobotomy I'll go for the 1/2 hour of listening to Limbaugh option instead of surgery. You're probably a wiser man than I for ignoring people like Ron because he is hopeless, but I try to balance his nonsense with a little rationality.
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:22 AM:Well, "Professor" at 10:36AM,
thank you for your information and your time.
I suspect that your post will incur the wrath of "sdraoul" who, seemingly, has determined and declared his personal definition of anything to be the only true one.
Regards, Alf.
Faux Chuckles wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:22 AM:Over It [-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:16 AM: Chuck is ... like unwelcome belches in the middle of a meal. I like the description, but Chuck doesn't just belch, he spews repeatedly.
same sex wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:26 AM:Same sex marriages with or without children, will not interfere with any heterosexual parents way of raising their own children.
Children in a same sex parent family will continue to thrive.
What must stop is the need for Church to be in our adult bedrooms.
What must stop is the hate for homosexuals.
To editor wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:27 AM:Did I say something offensive, is Ron protected from questioning his opinions, or did you not receive "To Ron:Monthly checks"?
Please let me know
Bill wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:27 AM:Nathan Wesley complains about losing a right we never had.
The 4th ammendment has never applied to border searches and the BP has NEVER needed probable cause to searh.
This decision clarified things when someone challenged it but NOTHING changed.
The authorities can search someone entering the country using whatever rationalization they want to enforce safety.
Is anything not a civil right these days?
Bill One wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:30 AM:To Nick, I checked out that site you recomended. I like!!! I like allot!!!
Karl wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:31 AM:Ms M
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:49 AM:
Please be honest, if he was just an average president, you as a liberal, would still be down on him wouldn't you?
Richard wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:34 AM:Nice ideas on Kim Jung, U.S. terror attacks since 9/11, China relations, and the surge. But I fail to see these as accomplishments. N. Korea launched missiles toward Hawaii that didn't do damage because they were probably not capable of it yet. Probably in response to the Iraq takeover they blew up an atomic bomb under their own ground to prove they had capability to defend itself. It likely caused the subsequent earthquake in Hawaii and so they decided themselves they were being stupid. To say Bush is reponsible for their learning curve is not something to brag about.
There were most certainly terror attacks after 9/11, the anthrax mailings to Democratic senators from our own anthrax stocks in Maryland, which were vastly increased with much funding by order of Bush. He didn't want to miss out on any weapons that terrorists might be thought to have. We even have anthrax labs now in Livermore, CA thanks to Bush. And the likely reason there were no Al Qaeda attacks here on our soil is they had to rely on our own planes to do their dirty work; they don't have their own. The idea that invading and nation-building Iraq, an enemy of Al Qaeda before we did, has nothing to do with this.
Friendly relations with China don't count until you pay back the hundreds of billions of dollars Bush borrowed from them to finance his Iraq war so he could simultaneously brag about tax cuts. We know very little about what China would do if those loans were defaulted. And he's in China lecturing them today about how they don't give citizens enough liberty? They responded that they don't listen to criticisms about their internal affairs from outsiders, a reasonbaly polite way to say please get off your soapbox, but Bush of course doesn't actually accept correction--he's too perfect for that.
And the surge in Iraq may have 'worked' when it comes to firepower, but so what? We're still armed in Iraq and if we never would have surged and instead left, a la the Iraq Study Group and President Gerald Ford, that would have 'worked' also, but with fewer refugees from Iraq still searching for a place to live.
And Ford was not a cut and run defeatist Democrat but was a rational civil human.
soaring eagle wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:36 AM:Apollo
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:58 AM:
You totally missed my point, that's why I am the soaring eagle. I flew over your head so high you missed me.
Bill One wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:38 AM:I agree the founders set up a system for taxation with representation. But is it just me, I don't feel I am being represented. I want the spending brought under control. I want fiscal responsibility. I don't want more taxes. No one in gov't seems to hear me. Stop the spending, balance the budget, get the debt paid. I don't hear anyone representing me.
Alf wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:42 AM:Huzzah!
The post by "Bill" at 11:27AM is yet another thing upon which we agree. The first being in regard to cell phone use during or immediately after an earthquake being limited to
Anyone and everyone, anything and everything is subject to searches when entering out country.
Regards, Alf.
liberaljim wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:43 AM:Bogie complains that his employees made more than he did the first five years he was in business. So what's new? That goes with starting a business. I'm a retired small businessman. In the beginning not only did I made less money, sometimes there was nothing left over for me after the payroll and bills were paid. I also worked much longer hours than the employees. I didn't whine about paying my employees a living wage because I knew I needed their abilities and talents to help secure my family's financial future. My employees helped me make the business successful enough that I was able to sell it and retire at 59. I don't begrudge a cent I ever paid anyone.
treetop eagle wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:45 AM:Apollo
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:58 AM:
Some consider it an accomplishment. You and your liberal cronies obviously do not. I am kinda' surprised though that you only picked on one of my listed "accomplishments". You must be feeling mellow today, Alf could have picked on more than one. You see, my friend, Alf's distain for GWB goes way beyond party affiliation, It comes from his soul not from party talking points.
Peace
Nick wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:48 AM:Right on "Bill 1". Instead of trying to get a 3rd party President elected, which would be like trying to get my trained pig elected, they are going for getting folks elected at ALL LEVELS of Government who reflect the change and ideals that most of us Americans are looking for.
I happen to think that most folks will vote Dem or Repub because they think there is no other choice, and they are pretty much right.
The 2 major Parties have seen to it thru the electoral college and stupid super delegates that no 3rd Party will ever stand a chance.
Ron Paul has the right idea. We will start at the bottom and work our way to the top. It may not happen this election, but with the momentum going in the right direction, 4 years from now will be another story. Especially if McIdiot of Obama get elected and the Country still continues it's downward spiral.
Actually, I hope Obama gets elected and all the fools that supported him realize that even with him at the helm, things will continue to get worse and might actually open their eyes and narrow minds. I doubt it though, they will just blame a failed Obama Presidency on GWB and Conservatives....LOL. That's all the Dems are really good at anyways, blaming everyone else.
Glad you enjoyed it "Bill 1".
Cheers, Nick.
bogie wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:48 AM:Bill One
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:30 AM:
Welcome to the club. Pass the word.
double eagle wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:51 AM:To Ron on Monthly Checks
[-] wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:45 AM:
Maybe if you explained your 25K income Ron will accept it. Many, many deserve the check and some don't. I think Ron is railing on the "some don't" crowd.
Peace
Nick wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:55 AM:To "Gee Nick": Take a good long hard look over the last few months of blogs and you might just realize that there is more than plenty of Negativity being spewed by Liberal Dems, day in and day out.
I have had plenty of Positive things to say as well.
I have said it before and I will say it again. I am beyond fed up listening to Obama Nuts spewing their hateful nonsense on a daily basis without actually anything good to say other than Obama is better than McIdiot.
So I choose to sling it right back at them. If you don't like it, tuff, don't read it.
Like I said earlier, Liberal Dems like to sling it, but they sure aren't man enough to take it.
Sure sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me. If I happen to get under their skin or yours, even better.
I'm willing to bet you read this post too...LOL.
Cheers, Nick.
gracchus wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:59 AM:at 12:27 this morning, john alleged that obama has dual citizenship with kenya and that he had an advisor connected with hamas. he based his allegation on a source that he claimed was the associated press. i couldn't find any such allegation from the ap.
i did find an allegation on a blog from andy martin which he presented in february 2007.
i found an article from may 2008 in THE TIMES OF LONDON which stated that robert malley, a former advisor to jimmy carter, had had conversations with hamas. malley had advised obama, and obama dismissed him.
i have observed that many individuals on this site take their information from the internet. the internet, especially the blogs are not reliable. i think critics should base their opinions upon legitimate journalistic sources.
many people on this site have been attacking both mccain and obama in an unseemly manner. no one can doubt that mccain is a war hero, and that he has served honorably in the u.s. senate. no one can doubt that obama is an intelligent and well-educated man who has demonstrated an ability to negotiate with people and reach a consensus. the issues which separate each main are significant. we can have more interesting discussions by addressing the issues, rather than by smearing either candidate.
finally, can we cease the personal attacks on people express an opinion differing from our own? or is that an unreasonable request?
Bill One wrote on Aug 7, 2008 12:04 PM:To Richard, unless I missed the context of your blog, I believe Gerald Ford was a Republican.
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