concerned wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:55 PM:Good for the Sheriffs and OPD....put any money on it, that the bad guys were gang members!!

not amused wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:00 PM:Keyword being "Parolee", why do we let these creeps out of prisons? Now more people hurt becase of a confirmed crook and his reckless actions. No, I do not beleive that most parolees turn into good people, and the stats back that up.

Disgusted wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:14 PM:Why do the police have to close off traffic every time there is a little problem ?

If there is a big mess, yes, but so often it would be so easy to wave cars through.

It often appears they do not feel they have a responsibility for making things work.

Good job OPD wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:16 PM:Thanks for nothing Sheriffs! Keep your trash out of our city! The Sheriff deputies are out of control! If it isn't the SDPD it is SD Sheriff coming into Oceanside and peeing all over the place! If these other agencies have a problem call a real police department and then stay out! It is like the rif raf coming to Oceanside every time these under trained agencies come tour great city! Call OPD and let the eralpros handle the problem!

Why must the sheriffs office always chase through our city ... Who trains the[m] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:20 PM:It seems like everytime the sheriff has a pursuit it looks a scene from Smokey and the Bandit and when OSPD has a chase, they look more professional? I wish the depuites would stay out! At some point they should let these guys go and catch them later if they had a look at the guy and know whwre he lives!Or let OSPD handle it! It would have clearly been a better ending without all the damage and risk to Oceanside citizens! We need a new sheriff! This guy has no control over these cowboys!

Sasha wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:49 PM:As someone who works within the prison with parole violators, I can tell you that there is no solution in keeping them locked up. It will change nothing. They will release; it's inevitable. That is reality.

Something that would be a step in the right direction is to begin focusing on the PRE release of the inmate, not cleaning up the mess POST release of the parolee. This means that different departments of the government need to actually work together.
You can not understand "bureaucratic red tape" until you work within it, not just experience it.

I-was-there wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:07 PM:First, I would like to address Disgusted, it was not a little problem, I went by on the Brooks over crossing. The SUV went over the side of the embankment from Brooks Street, tearing out a large section of the freeway fencing and hit a white pick-up truck head-on spreading debris over the entire four lanes. They even brought a street sweeper to run after all of the big pieces were picked up and the vehicles were towed away. The whole procession had passed me up when I was on the narrow section of Mesa Drive turning onto Mission Ave. And no, I did not deliberately follow 'the excitement' I was working, and my route just happened to pass by both places. If the driver hadn't went over the side of the embankment, he would of been headed for a very compact section of Division street where apartment buildings are packed tightly with cars parked nearly as tight and LOTS of children play near the streets on the narrow sidewalks. I say good job OPD. It could of been a much more horrible situation. And I don't know about you, but I would prefer not to be waved by an armed parolee no matter how big of a hurry I was in.

Dude wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:19 PM:Not a big police fan, But..

It seems they did their jobs and tried to protect the public.

If they didn't close off traffic and the felon shot a citizen, would people complain? why yes they would.

If they let them go and just pick them up later and they hurt someone between now & later, would people complain? I think we know the answer to that.

Educate yourself wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:40 PM:To Good Job OPD and "Why must the sheriff's office always chase through our city.."

For your information OPD, SDPD and the Sheriff's Department are trained at the "SAME" REGIONAL POLICE ACADEMY so neither is better trained than the other. Also, last I checked, Oceanside is in San Diego County, well within the Sheriff's jurisdiction.

Disgusted with disgusted wrote on Aug 13, 2008 5:18 PM:Sorry for the inconvienence but tuff. It was a crime scene, not just a crash or a little problem. I would like to see what you would say if was you or a family member. You must have a miserable life to complain about being inconvienced.

To Educate yourself wrote on Aug 13, 2008 5:55 PM:To Good Job OPD and "Why must the sheriff's office always chase through our city.."

For your information OPD, SDPD and the Sheriff's Department are trained at the "SAME" REGIONAL POLICE ACADEMY so neither is better trained than the other. Also, last I checked, Oceanside is in San Diego County, well within the Sheriff's jurisdiction.

Ditto. At times OPD runs into our city and we are proud to have their help get real, get educated.

To Good job OPD wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:00 PM:Perhaps we the Vista Sheriff were helping you the concerned citizen of Oceanside get your parolee out of our city of Vista. Did you ever look at it that way. No, of course not your mind seems to work one way. It doesn't matter who gets this punk and or punks off the street or where they get them off the street. They were obviously headed to Oceanside because of familiarity perhaps it was someone you knew. Get a grip don't worry on the petty stuff lets get the criminals off the street.

Great Job Vista Sheriff wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:18 PM:You took another Oceanside Posole Gang member off the streets.........your welcome Oceanside complainer. Go watch channel 8 news on your computer since you are so quick to trash the Vista Sheriff and see where the punk is coming from. Once again you are welcome Oceanside.

To Educate yourself wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:19 PM:Thank You. Well put.

Yeah Thanks Sheriffs for doing your job wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:28 PM:Big deal, do you want a medal? Please! Go back to the sticks. What a bunch of Hillbillies!

Osider wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:11 PM:Bring in the Sheriff's department!

Oh brother wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:13 PM:I can see closing off lanes for this bad accident, no matter how it was caused. But stopping the freeway for that jerk VP Cheney's motorcade? Give me a break!

Tuck wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:22 PM:Does anyone remember that wildfire in Leucadia? How did it get started? Please NCT, report the news. Thanks.

Oside local wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:32 PM:To I-was-there:

Too bad the vehicle didn't take out Division St and its miscreants... could've been an improvement. OPD and Sheriff's... Nice job.

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:12 PM:I'm just waiting to see in print 'who' this punk is, including his passengers. I suspect that since the "gang task force" identified the suspect as a parolee, and attempted to initiate a traffic stop, that he is a Latino gang member (and it's likely his passengers are too) who will stop at nothing to get away. Of course, this would certainly bring up a separate topic for discussion regarding the Latino gang problem that plagues our communities here in North County. (But, we can save that for a later date.)

Aside from the danger he put many of our citizens in during his attempt to flee, what's even more disturbing was the fact that this parolee was armed! As a concerned citizen and resident of North County, I'm wondering which judge let this gang member out on parole, allowing him to return to his life of crime? This is outrageous!

I challenge the NCT to include this kind of information, chiefly some of the background about these dangerous suspects (parolees), and names of judges on pending cases so we can be a better informed public which will allow us to confront the judges and/or get them out of office if they are too soft on criminals.

Enough is enough! Does anyone else feel this way?

HEY wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:25 PM:ANY CHECKPOINTS LATELY. WE NEED THEM

helvis wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:33 PM:Sasha's remarks were very insightful. This is a non-partisan idea, meaning that it's not a Democan or a Republicrat issue. This issue is as real as water is wet. The ugly truth is that these scumbags will get released from jail or prison whether they served their time or were released due to overcrowded or underfunded facilities. Pre-realease programs, by way of placement and planning, might have some merit. Then again this punk wound up in the cooler anyway. He's not interested in getting with Society's program.
Then again a pre-release program that I think Sasha might have been speaking of wont work for this type of punk. Save this program for the types of convicts who WANT to be reformed and get with the Society's program. Our system is broke. ...

to the complainers wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:32 AM:This was a combined effort between two allied agencies. Sheriffs & OPD. Great job done by both departments.

For all you complainers. Those two departments worked together to get an armed parolee off the streets. ... So, stop complaining be greatful hes off the streets.
Also, Sheriffs deputies weren't driving the vehicle, the parolee was, he determines the course, the police just follow. I'm happy to have two outstanding agenices that I can relay on. Thank you OPD & SDSO

Can Trust Them wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:58 AM:I don't care what you say - YOU CANNOT TRUST LAW ENFORCEMENT.

They lie at a drop of a pin to help them make their cases. They lie to cover their own crimes. The lie to protect their "friends in blue." They falsify evidence when they need to.

We don't know what this "person" (not punk, criminal, scumbag, etc...) was on parole for - could have been for some stupid crime and OUR great law enforcement charged him with in the first place.

BTW Sasha - JUDGES don't let people out on parole - a citizens board does that.

to can trust them wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:18 AM:please tell me that you are freaking kidding me/ judges produce the sentence that allows a convict the possibility of parole. We have GREAT law enforcement and MOST people who do not have a history with them will agree. THEY do not falsify evidence and they DO NOT give up their careers to do stupid things like you are implying. If you think that being a cop is so easy go become one and maybe you can change the way YOU THINK they are. BY the way, bad guys went to jail (maybe friends of yours) and the cops went home in one piece. Great job to our LEO communities.

Look within wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:26 AM:Thank you OPD and SDSO for getting another one off the streets. For all you anti-law enforcement whiners, get a clue, rather yet, get a life. I suspect that you are the same citizens who do not accept responsibility for your own actions but must place blame elsewhere.

If this parolee had just committed a violent crime, I suspect that some of you would then be stating - "Where's the cops when you need them?"

The poor,irresponsible and immature attitudes I see on these blogs is seriously unsettling.

Thank you law enforcement for doing the job that others can't or won't do and no, I am not law enforcement.

John from Vista wrote on Aug 14, 2008 10:31 AM:Sounds like the "person" who is complaining about SDSO and/OPD has some baggage. Could it be that he is also on parole? Yeah, the parolee must have committed some "stupid crime" like rape, burglary, assault, etc. You don't get to go on parole for running a stop sign, it has to be a felony -- You know FELONY where one goes to state prison!!

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Aug 14, 2008 10:31 AM:When it comes down to it, you either support our law enforcement or you don't. Those who support them are the good citizens, who work for what they have, cherish their home and family and don't want their lives jeopardized by criminals. Those who don't support law enforcement do so for a reason. They're either criminals, former criminals, or have friends and loved ones who are and CAN TRUST THEM fits this category.

I don't care how minor a crime, it shows that criminals can't 'play in the sand-box' like the rest of us and need to be kicked out.

Those of us law abiding citizens pay taxes to employ law enforcement personnel, who are responsible for kicking the bad kids out of the sand box. If you're one who wants to make accusations, demean, or degrade the job our law enforcement does, I suggest you go live in a foreign country for a while and report back on what you see. We have the best law enforcement on the planet.

I'm thoroughly glad to see this punk is off our streets and in jail where he belongs. It's obviously his parents failed miserably at raising him and now he's paying the price.

bj wrote on Aug 14, 2008 10:34 AM:FOR: Sasha: Thank you. There are some people in prison who should not be there and some should. I have a question for you, and wonder if you can help me.On someone that deserves to be out and given a chance, and did not hurt anyone. thanks ...

Big Jim wrote on Aug 14, 2008 12:34 PM:To Greg In Oceanside

What happens after the parolee is released
from custody has nothing to do with the sentencing judge. After the judge sentences an individual to a state prison commitment, and then the parolee re-offends, more often than not, the parolee never goes in front of again. When parolees violate their parole they go in front of the Board of Prison Terms. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Tuck wrote on Aug 14, 2008 1:09 PM:Does anyone remember that wildfire in Leucadia? How did it get started? Please NCT, report the news. Thanks.

To Can Trust Them wrote on Aug 14, 2008 1:27 PM:BTW, you are correct that judges do not let them out of prison. It is the Board of Prison Terms (BPT) that grants parole if the inmate is eligible. And yes, citizens may be there (ie: victim(s). But the decision is made by CDCR officials. I know this because I have actually been to one as a clinician.

To bj wrote on Aug 14, 2008 1:30 PM:You are right about those that belong and those that do not. I have met MANY in both categories. I'm not sure that I understand what your question is though....Sasha

to greg in oceanside wrote on Aug 14, 2008 3:13 PM:What does how our parents raise us have anything to do with the choices we make as adults. It is obvious that our parents aren't the ones making our poor decisions. Do your parents make yours? It is a tough job being a parent let alone trying to make sure our kids turn out to be a good citizens. This idiot has no sense of good judgement. Leave the parents out of this.

Big Jim wrote on Aug 14, 2008 4:00 PM:To Greg

You use the word "punk" a little too liberally. Next time you meet someone on parole, call him a "punk" and see what happens. It's obvious his legal status makes him an outcast in society. Your name calling does nothing to help get your point across.

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Aug 14, 2008 5:35 PM:Big Jim, don't worry, a few combat tours in no-so-friendly places hunting bad guys, martial arts training in more than one discipline, and expert proficiency with weapons makes me fairly good at taking care of myself.

As for those who don't think there's a direct correlation to poor parenting and how these and other punks turn out, you must have your head in the sand.

Area wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:12 PM:I think the LE did a GREAT job. OSPD rocks and leads the way. Next time a scary gang banger heads your way, handle it yourself. Then let us know how THAT went for you. I disagree with "Can Trust Them" Why the hate?

get your stories straight wrote on Aug 15, 2008 5:50 AM:first of all the news said he was not armed when they checked the vehicle and this story says he was. second of all, he may be a gang member but there are worse people out there who rape and murder people too.

Big Jim wrote on Aug 15, 2008 11:11 AM:To Greg

Well I'm a ninja sniper navy seal who taught Bear Grylls everything he knows. All I'm saying is that you sound like an intelligent individual who doesn't need use words like "punk" to describe or berate someone, or to get your point across that you don't tolerate this type of behavior in your community. The fact of the matter is, I used to be one of those "punks", but I've turned my life around. I work two jobs to support my family, I pay my taxes, and now I support what Law Enforcement stands for, because I want a safe neighborhood and community for my family and I to live in.

mom driver wrote on Aug 15, 2008 12:07 PM:this pursuit happened as i was driving down mesa just before buddy todd park west bound . I heard a helicopter over head ask my son if he could see if there wasanything happening that he could see as i drove .Then before he could answer I heard sirens many look in my mirror then saw lights flashing just then a very fast suv tan color with body damage past and my son said "thats what is going on a chase " The cars in front of us pulled over as we did , at least 6 cars seemed like
mostly Oceanside cars psated us then a lull then another 6 to 8 cars and motors . They police seemed to have things under control .thank you for stopping these armed and dangerous people with little to no damage to the
public.

Hey Greg wrote on Aug 15, 2008 2:42 PM:They did release the parole's names...go onto channel 8 news parolee pursuit on I-5

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Aug 15, 2008 4:06 PM:Big Jim, I see where you're coming from, and appreciate the compliment.

I'm sure you can see that I'm just a guy who's tired of, and frustrated with the 'zeros' running around our communities, jeopardizing the safety of our law-abiding citizens.

As you figured I serve the country (and community, but I won't get into details), and care a lot about what is going on. That being said, I've been to some ugly places, and when I see these losers (or 'punks' that I call them) who just don't give one thought to committing crime, hurting someone, or doing anything that is counter to being a normal upstanding citizen, it gets me worked up.

And, there are others like me. I hope you agree we have more 'losers' than we should.

OPD wrote on Aug 16, 2008 5:57 AM:This was a Vista Sheriff chasing a Oceanside gang member, Why is OPD getting credit for this?

Its OSPD wrote on Aug 17, 2008 2:40 PM:Not OPD! Get it right!