Right to be Bitter wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:59 AM:Mr. Beck, Thank you . Couldn't have said it better myself. If I wanted to be controlled. I'd go back into the military or commit a crime and go to prison, so some one else could tell me what to eat, when to sleep , what to wear and how to think.

Not interested in that kind of life. Therefore I too will be a Bitter American and cling to everything I have left after I'm taxed to death.

Ban surfing wrote on Aug 13, 2008 1:07 AM:Been to the Blackball city of the county. You can't surf in O'side in the summer. Didn't know that? Surfers are crammed into 2 small areas on each side of the pier during the summer.

Leaving the rest of the coast line in O'side to all the Sprinter riders from Escondido. They are all packin their snacks, towels and sunscreen in their plastic bags that they so carefully and thoughtfully leave behind to trash our beaches with.

Back it and take it with YOU!

Vote NO on wrote on Aug 13, 2008 1:09 AM:Or go suck an egg. LOL

Asteroid wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:21 AM:I’m what chris (pulse) refers to as a “flag-waver”. I just had a very enjoyable weekend, sitting on my patio reading; A Revolutionary Soldier. The nicest part was listening to my flag fluttering in the breeze above me on its 20 foot pole. I live in one of those yuppy neighborhoods where you have to request and receive permission to plant a tulip anywhere on your property. I didn’t ask permission to erect my flagpole; there are just some things I’m not going to ask permission for. One of my neighbors; born in the S.F. Bay area, dyed in the wool liberal doesn’t like it, so he had his wife come over and tell me the clasps banging against the pole were keeping them up at night. So I replaced the plastic ones with larger brass ones and make sure the lanyard is nice and loose at night so the wind can really whip it against the pole. It sounds like chimes to me, but I can imagine it sounds like fingernails on a chalk board to a liberal. I plan to install lighting soon so I can fly it all night long. I might even attach a cow bell to the lanyard.
But as I sat there I thought of chris and how fun it would be to have chris as a neighbor. I’d erect a new flag every time a Marine or Army sniper or predator drone operator whacked a terrorist. I’d blare colors at sunrise and taps at night. Too bad chris lives on the other side of the tracks……..we’d have been great neighbors!!

He Said to Ban Surfing wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:55 AM:Those small areas are to keep the body waste pollutants common from surfers to a confined area.

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:03 AM:I'd like to thank "OBSERVATION"
{Au}g 12} @1:44 PM.

"OIL COMPANIES AND OPINION"
CA Rep. Maxine Waters-D told oil company CEOs that if gasoline prices kept going up, "This liberal will be all about socializing -- would be about -- basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."

Therefore, the court finds for Ron, conviction of contempt is overturned.

Ovservation has observed Crasher Rule # 151: Never leave a fellow crasher behind wearing a funny jacket.

Court adjourned!

She Said wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:03 AM:Re Maxwell letter.. What type of thinking process creates the talking points of this letter? Both the individual premises and, therefore, the conclusions aren't worth discussing. Are these types of people serious or was this another one of those "satire" letters. Love, She Said

He Said to Asteroid wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:08 AM:You shouldn't have mentioned the 20 foot pole. Now you'll get comments from the greenies about putting a wind turbine on the top of it.

Reardon wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:27 AM:Asteroid: Good work!

The Loony Left (Alf, Chris and SALOON) have already chosen sides in the Georgia/Russia debacle, and have chosen (Drum Roll, Please!)

RUSSIA!

Of course we are all shocked!

Chris's post at 2:04 will be spread far and wide, at least by me, and included in a future column on the Loony Left -- the only question is: Should I clean up the numerous misspellings?

I suppose since it is a quote, it needs to be published warts and all. It does give the post a certain proletariat flavor.

To Darrell wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:37 AM:McCain is just as much "a smooth (maybe not as smooth) talking stranger who doublespeaks and makes rosy promises" who will "control everyone and everything" as well. Even if McCain is elected president, you will still be bitter and "clinging to your right to remain bitter" with or without change.

Chuck wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:39 AM:>>have already chosen sides in the Georgia/Russia debacle, and have chosen (Drum Roll, Please!) RUSSIA! Of course we are all shocked!>>>
Its just the way it is with the parrots. As soon as the word America or freedom pops up, the parrots scream "No". Polly wanna cracker???

Thank you wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:01 AM:for helping me decide, Jeff Schlick. As previously mentioned, your endorsement (and the San Diego minutemen's endorsement) is the kiss of death. I will surely vote for anyone BUT your so-called "nightmare team".

To Thank You wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:14 AM:Ditto

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:15 AM:As usual "Chris Pulse" is out in lleft field when it comes to Arabs and Muslims. He actually laughs at the notion that they wish to take over the world. He couldn't be further from the truth.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In it's fullest form, it is a
complete, total, 100% system of life - legal, political, economic,
social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for
all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their religious privileges. When politically correct,
tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for
their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep
in as well. Here's how it works.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given
country, they will, for the most part, be regarded as a peace- loving
minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

This is the case in:
United States: -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among
street gangs.

This is happening in:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their
percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the
introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby
securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure
on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with
threats for failure to comply.

This is occurring in:
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow
them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic
Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

More to come.
Cheers, Nick.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:16 AM:More on Muslims:

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase
lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris ,
we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam,
and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with
opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are
seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad
militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian
churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks,
and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of
all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic
cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax
placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run
ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the
infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim such as has been experienced and
in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

And a little more to come.
Cheers, Nick.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:18 AM:And the final bit on Muslims:

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim,
the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such
as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most
radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust
by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me
against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family
against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe
against the world, and all of us against the infidel.' -- Leon Uris,
'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under
100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations
live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which
they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these
ghettos. There are no national courts nor schools nor non-Muslim
religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into
the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only
the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with
death.

Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists
exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But
their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddists,
and Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the
world's population by the end of this century.

I know that these figures are to hard to actually understand for people like "Chris Pulse". They stand by their ignorant and biased opinions no matter what. Sad but typical.
Cheers, Nick.

Sure Jeff wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:23 AM:That's all we need in office are a bunch of one issue candidates!!! Thanks for the heads up now I know who NOT to vote for not that I would ever consider voting for Issa or Bilbray. What are they going to about the foreclosure crisis facing Americans. What about the gas prices, inflation, recession, unemployment, etc. Jeff Schw ilk must have a very inflated opinion of himself to think his endorsement of a candidate will help get them elected. Your are definately a funny man.

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 AM:To "Greenergy" {Aug 12} @11:52 AM who said:

"...an uneducated, gullible American..."

I will apply Rule #107 - Know when to abandon ship if it ain't floating.

And also Rule #71 - Research, research, research. And when you are done researching, research some more.
You don't seem to know or understand Americans, at all.

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:44 AM:One needs only wonder why Chris Pulse would obsess over supposed Palestine lands, when he, himself, lives on land that was once inhabited by the Kumeyaay.
Is this not typical liberal behavior, that he should tell other's how to live, yet.. is not subject to those same rules?

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:00 AM:I recently read an article called "The Audacity of Nope."

Apprently within the body of Obama’s “Oil SENSE Act”, it would
repeal the 2005 Energy Policy Act’s authorization to inventory all known oil reserves with newer 3-D technology.
Obama has introduced S.115 in 2007, that would remove the inventory authorization, thus taking us back to
Carter era 2-D maps drawn with pre-PC technology.
With the current knowledge base, which is between 20 to 40 years old, depending on the region.
One really needs to question this mantra of 68 million acres of leased public lands idea. Because, if you dealing with such ancient technology,
We have no idea what’s really out there.
Do we?

Today, we have the ability to survey in 4-D. Some 70 percent of 4-D wells hit oil. Because we can quantify subsea deposits, and track their flows.

"Obama’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Drill policy spurns these marvels and embraces outdated information gathered with obsolete instruments. This is the audacity of ignorance."
`Deroy Murdock

And here I thought all you lib's were really behind using the latest & greatest science? Unless, and until it gives a true picture to the American people of what you are holding out on them, for the last 30 plus years.
That's right Folks! THEY are afraid you will know to much. And they won't stand a chance.

OBAMACAN wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:53 AM:Darrell Beck's letter, reinforced by the comment from "Right to be Bitter" at 12:59 a.m., sums it up perfectly: the cranky bitterness of hateful conservatives. They are "bitter" and they admit it.
In the meantime, as to the quote from Obama, they take it out of context. He clearly stated, and issued subsequent further clarifying statements, that he was referring to the fear and bitterness felt by many insecure Americans after the campaigns of fear-mongering by the current administration.
He said that the natural consequences of such fears is, of course, that they turn to those sources of comfort and security that they can always rely on, and these include religion and their Second Amendment rights. Nothing in his original or clarifying statement denigrated guns or God; he only identified those as the sources of security people turn to for support.
In his own life, he said, he finds God to be his "rock" that he also turns to for security.
And the letter from J. Howard Crews rightly notes the hilarious idiocy of the McSame campaign trying to support a multi-millionaire Washington insider against a hardscrabble minority who has had to work hard for everything he ever achieved, and trying to paint the latter as the "elitist."

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:00 AM:Hey "Reardon" @7:27 AM

Speaking of the The Loony Left...

Why is it, that these are the very same people who demand we quit being the world's cop, while out of the otherside of their mouth, decry that we have not done enough to prevent such tragedies. And often they lament, that famous Rodney King statement: "Can't we'all, just get along?"

It is a basic failure to understand the world in which we live. As I have said:
They have "their interest's", and We have "Our interest's."

And I really gotta wonder why there has been no outcry against the slug's, the Lib's like to call "our friend's", the Euro's? What are we now, with them? 0 for 2? First Bosnia, now this? And with the fine exception of France's Pro-American/freedom Nicolas Sarkozy, the rest of those do-nothing types are once again ignoring stuff happening in theirn own backyard, and crying like the welfare babies they are, why is the United States doing anything to bail us out of this situation? Total welfare queens...

But, I will agree. Reading Chris on any given day is the same as reading the World Worker's Daily, which is why all his posts have a certain proletariat flavor.

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:04 AM:I need t self-correct, my "Ron"
@7:03 AM was in error, as my crack research team has informed me.

My observation at that time was: "Observation has observed Crasher Rule # 151: Never leave a fellow crasher behind wearing a funny jacket."

It has been brought to my attention, that it is NOT rule # 151, but Rule # 112.
My apologies.
Now.. Court is adjourned!

Chris wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:08 AM:Asteroids comments about his flag pole is nothing new. He demostrates the true qualities of these flag wavers. Arrogance, beligerence, no concern for others.

Chris to Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:11 AM:You have a point about the Arabs but why pick them out since what you say about them is true of all peoples. But the fact is not only do we take over when we have the demographics but we go into other counties and take them over by force and put in a government that will do as we wish. Who are we to point the finger at anybody?

Focal Point wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:15 AM:Bush Warns Russia to Honor Cease-Fire Agreement. While you people are yaking about Chris Pulse, Bush is entering us into a high stakes poker game with the Russians. Problem is he does not even have a pair while the Russians are holding a full hand of aces. So, get ready for a big bang because the cowboy is back in the saddle and just happy as can be to start another war.

Chris to Reardon wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:15 AM:Did you bother to read the column by Gwynne Dyer in todays paper concerning Georgia. Of course not, as you don't bother with educating yourself. You are too busy trashing those of us that do.

Conservative wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:21 AM:Nick, you outdid yourself today. Your multi-page exposé of the promise that the religion of peace holds for the world is politically incorrect and would be refreshing for its honesty, if it didn't presage the end-state of the world as we know it. Unfortunately, a majority of the contributors to this blog will either not take the time to read it, or they will disbelieve it if they do, because it doesn't fit their false paradigm. There is truth in the adage "Ignorance is bliss."

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:26 AM:It has recently been said, that Obama has over exposed himself, meaning.. that Americans as a whole, are growing tired of being lectured to by a newbie junior Senator.

His basic theme of "We Can't" doesn't sit well with my circle of friends, all regular Americans. We get up, go to work, play by the rules, pay our taxes, raise our kid's, and try to do the best job we know how to do.
But then to have this guy, a public servant no less, demand that We change what has made us successful, is just arrogance beyond belief.

We can't eat so much, we can't drive so much, we can't cool ourselves so much... just reeks of liberal elitism for such a young man.

I think Darrell Beck is right, that Americans should be wary of smooth-talking strangers who speak in platitudes, doublespeak and make rosy promises.

His Newer Dealism should worry all Americans, promise after promise, on top of another promise, and a pledge to cut taxes for the 95%, while socking it to the upper 5%.
Last time I saw the pledge, that promise... it was 1993 and Bill Clinton.
Only then he retroactively raised taxes, and said: {in my best Billy bob Clinton voice} "I worked as hard as I could.. but.. you know.. those Republicans.. well, they just went bananas, ya know? And I just want you to know, I've never worked harder on this than I've worked ever before in my entire life. Except when I was juggling three mistresses, and a girlfriend under Hillary's nose, but I want all my fellow Americans to know I worked, and worked harder to save as much as I could to help you, cause I feel your pain... but, I just couldn't ignore all the debt run up by these Republicans, so I have to raise your taxes. I know.. I know, I said.. but that was then, and after I saw how much damage was done, I had no choice, no choice.. but to raise everyone's taxes down to the $33,000 level. I just had no choice, I just want you to know that."

Alf wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:33 AM:Well, "Thank you at 8:01AM,
"To Thank You" at 8:14AM and
"Sure Jeff" at 8:23AM,
who I will vote for is no mantioned in the letter by Jeff Schwilk.
I am not such a reactionary that his endorsement would cause me to change.
Regards, Alf.

City of Oceanside discriminating wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:39 AM:A reader today encourages those over 50 years of age who can volunteer 6 hours a week to become Senior Volunteers of Oceanside Police.

The 22 year old college student with some spare time on semester break need not apply?

The 37 year old small businessman who would be willing to perform the duties descripted in the writer's letter should just wait 13 years?

I would suggest, to eliminate the cry of discrimination, that OPD drop the pretense of "senior" volunteers, and offer the same responsibility to any taxpaying citizen.

Judge Jury and Executioner wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:45 AM:Ron doesn't understand why this court, like others, does not encourage a defendant to represent himself.

Even after correcting his apparent freewheeling literary license, he makes another mistake.

Ron correctly represents Maxine Waters using the term "socializing", but there is not a dictionary (abridged or otherwise) that equates in any manner the verb "socializing" to the noun Socialism.

Fear mongering is not taken lightly in this court, therefore, no, there is no overturning in the conviction or rights to appeal.

Ron should have excercised his right to remain silent, and obtained a lawyer, before digging the hole any deeper.

Next case!

To Ron and Asteroid wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:57 AM:Ron I do not know where Chris Pulse lives so I will not comment other than to say we are all living on land that belonged to the others like the Mexicans and Native Americans, what is your point? AS teroid, I am what you would label as a liberal. I love my country!!! I tear up everytime I hear our National Anthem and I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States. However your arrogance and rude tone leads me to believe that you are an instigator and provacatuer. I have seen your type running around town with American flags screaming about Patriotism. I find them and you disgusting. It is not the flag blowing in the wind that sounds like fingernails on a chalk board to a liberal it is your lack of consideration for others that is ringing in this liberals ears.

bogie wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:11 AM:To "Thank You" and "To Thank You". Brilliant way to decide how to cast your vote. I gotta' hand it to both of you Mensas, your system saves a lot of time. What are your strategies for picking local Judges? How about propositions? Please let me know so I can stop flipping a coin come election time. My old silver dollar is getting worn out along with my eyes and it is hard to tell heads from tails. Come to think about it, its hard to tell a Democrat from a Republican these days the way they both change their minds and lie so often

Ms M wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:22 AM:Nick
[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:18 AM:And the final bit on Muslims:...whew thank goodness!

Ms M wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:25 AM:(CNN) – Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili on Wednesday called for John McCain and other American leaders to do more for Georgia in their response to the conflict in his country.

“Yesterday, I heard Sen. McCain say, ‘We are all Georgians now,’” Saakashvili said on CNN’s American Morning. “Well, very nice, you know, very cheering for us to hear that, but OK, it’s time to pass from this. From words to deeds.”...now let's see what McBomb comes up with now! I hope they are not looking for troop support from McCain - we ain't got none - or didn't anyone tell McBomb that!

Where is my absentee ballot wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:36 AM:After I read Jeff Schwilk's letter today I wanted my absentee ballot to make sure I vote for everyone but those he suggested. Who does he think he is? What makes him think he can dictate to us on who to vote for? I read an article about this man and he and the group that he founded were called Maladjusted Misfits just why would he think his opinion is valuable? I think Jeff Schwilk should understand that some of us are more concerned with all the other crisis' happening in San Diego than being overly consumed by the illegal immigration problem.

esteban wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:36 AM:Chris, we are the US of ^%^%%^&% A!!! That's who WE are to point the finger!!!! You really need to leave my country.

Chuck wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:03 PM:>>>Bush is entering us into a high stakes poker game with the Russians.>> If we send Vladamir Murtha to Russia, their army will immediately become panty-waisted, too --> rules of engagement that favor the terrorists, and Russian soldiers in chains being falsely accused

Liberal Manifesto wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:22 PM:The daily news is a perfect example of what is wrong with America!

Michael Phelps is a typical Ugly American, hogging all of the swimming gold medals! He is not letting others play! This is unfair! American individualism is certainly on display here. We do not play well with others.

In fact, the entire Olympics would be unfair, since there are winners and losers – but the Olympics are in China, so that is O.K. because China is an egalitarian society, and is rapidly ridding the world of nasty coal by burning it.

Then, Phelps admits that he consumes 12,000 calories a DAY! What about the starving children in Africa? Obama has already said that we can no longer eat all we want, and 12,000 calories is simply obscene. Obama will settle Mr. Phelps hash when Obama is President!

Then the United States PROVOKED Russia to move several army divisions across the mountains to liberate Georgia, after we had courted Georgia, teased them, enticed them – but finally said “No” to their interest in joining NATO. America is certainly to blame for this, and America will continue to be to blame when Russia also takes over the Ukraine. Russia is right, and America is wrong! That settles THAT!

Then there is Iran – we have already broken Iraq and now we are threatening the peace loving people of Iran. Iran needs peaceful nuclear energy because some day they will run out of FILTHY FINITE FOSSIL FUEL, and they need thousands of centrifuges for…well, whatever they are and whatever they are for, I am sure it is peaceful.

We are just awful! We cause so much harm, and we pollute, and we consume, and we...we...

Well, Obama will make us good again. And he will give us all free things, and stuff.

Focal Point wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:25 PM:esteban[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:36 AM:
No esteban, You should leave my country.

Focal Point wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:42 PM:THE SPARK THAT LIT THE FIRE:
"the first hours of August 8, 2008, a mass incursion of Georgian troops and armour to a South Ossetian-controlled territory and repeated shelling of Tskhinvali began.[29] AFP, quoting a spokesman of the Georgian Interior Ministry, stated that three Russian Sukhoi Su-24 aircraft had intruded on Georgian airspace, attacking some targets in the Tskhinvali region. On the same day, twelve Russian peacekeepers were killed and nearly 150 injured."[30]

Extreme Patriotism wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:59 PM:"esteban
[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:36 AM:
Chris, we are the US of ^%^%%^&% A!!! That's who WE are to point the finger!!!! You really need to leave my country."

Our country is not the only thing to which we owe our allegiance. It is also owed to justice and to humanity. Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong. ~James Bryce

Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them! ~Albert Einstein

Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. ~Bertrand Russell

Do not... regard the critics as questionable patriots. What were Washington and Jefferson and Adams but profound critics of the colonial status quo? ~Adlai Stevenson

Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may. ~Mark Twain

He is a poor patriot whose patriotism does not enable him to understand how all men everywhere feel about their altars and their hearthstones, their flag and their fatherland. ~Harry Emerson Fosdick

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. ~Albert Einstein, The World As I See It, 1934

You'll never have a quiet world till you knock the patriotism out of the human race. ~George Bernard Shaw

It is not easy to see how the more extreme forms of nationalism can long survive when men have seen the Earth in its true perspective as a single small globe against the stars. ~Arthur C. Clarke

The stench of the trail of Ego in our History. It is ego - ego, the fountain cry, origin, sole source of war. ~George Meredith, Beauchamp's Career

I couldn't help but say to [Mr. Gorbachev], just think how easy his task and mine might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from another planet. [We'd] find out once and for all that we really are all human beings here on this earth together. ~Ronald Reagan, 1985

We need a type of patriotism that recognizes the virtues of those who are opposed to us..... The old "manifest destiny" idea ought to be modified so that each nation has the manifest destiny to do the best it can - and that without cant, without the assumption of self-righteousness and with a desire to learn to the uttermost from other nations. ~Francis John McConnell

Patriotism, the virtue of the vicious. ~Oscar Wilde

Our country is the world, our countrymen are all mankind. We love the land of our nativity, only as we love all other lands. The interests, rights, and liberties of American citizens are no more dear to us than are those of the whole human race. Hence we can allow no appeal to patriotism, to revenge any national insult or injury. ~William Lloyd Garrison, Declaration of Sentiments, Boston Peace Conference, 1838

Patriotism is a kind of religion; it is the egg from which wars are hatched. ~Guy de Maupassant

Truth is stranger than fiction wrote on Aug 13, 2008 1:09 PM:CNN reports:

John McCain's wife was hospitalized with a minor hand sprain after shaking hands with supporters, the senator’s campaign says.

What they might be reporting someday:

If elected John McCain will be hospitalized, also with a minor hand sprain after giving middle-class Americans the finger.

Soaring Parakeet wrote on Aug 13, 2008 1:21 PM:Liberal Manifesto[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 12:22 PM: What a waste of your day. You must be NCT and computer addicted. Get outdoors, feel the sun on your face, take a deep breath and then take a liberal to lunch.

DD Wiz wrote on Aug 13, 2008 1:25 PM:The post from "Judge Jury and Executioner" (10:45am) rightly finds "Ron" guilty of many distortions of fact, but also misses the point.
While I find many points of agreement with the Hon. Maxine Waters, esteemed congresswoman from Los Angeles, I am no "dittohead" and have no problem saying when I simply disagree with her.
I do not see a role for socializing private corporations.
While I have many objections to the manner in which the Big Oil Bullies operate their business of manipulating dependence on non-renewable FINITE FILTHY FOSSIL FUELS that require public policy oversight, taking over private production of consumer products is not the answer.
Peace (and sunshine) to all, DD Wiz

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 1:35 PM:Well "Conservative", you are right about ignorance being bliss.
"Ms M" proved your point in her response to my posts on Muslims, not to mention her hilariously blind following of the lying and slimey weasel named Obama.
Cheers, Nick.

Georgian Aggression wrote on Aug 13, 2008 1:36 PM:Georgia, with an 'army" (26,000) far smaller then the New York police force (38,000)attacked the tiny and unarmed Russia, and deserves to be beaten.

Liberals of the World, Unite!

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:00 PM:"To Ron and Asteroid" @10:57 AM:

You ever hear the term, you need to clean your side of the street, before looking at mine?

Oh, and that reminds me...
When I see more of your 24%-ters driving a Prius, with your Obamo08 stickers on them, then I'll assume your doing the work you intended me to do first.

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:03 PM:>>>Bush is entering us into a high stakes poker game with the Russians. If we send Vladamir "John" Murtha to Russia,>>>

He might be able to persuade them to redeploy to Okinawa.

To Extreme Patriotism wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:10 PM:Thanks for all the great quotes. So true, so true. This is my favorite; Patriotism, the virtue of the vicious. ~Oscar Wilde. Yes those who call themselves Patriots are definately without a doubt vicious.

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:23 PM:Just some random thoughts here....

It is said by liberals, that the Press in American was asleep at the wheel when Bush took us to war in Iraq.

Can it now be said, they were again asleep at the wheel, when one of the leading Democrat Presidential candidates was blatantly having an affair under their very noses, during the height of the Democrat primary process? And nobody in the Main Stream Press got it?

It took the much maligned American supermarket tabloid, the National Enquirer to get the story right?
The affair began shortly in 2006, and by the end of 2007, a love child still evaded notice when in The ENQUIRER's Oct. 22 issue, they published a picture of a pregant Rielle. And still, nobody in the MSM got it?

Now, the question is, at least.. in my mind. We're they caught up in all the hype surrounding the Edwards campaign?
Maybe a little to close, and friendly with it? Secretly wanting Edwards to win? Or was this just another time when the entire American press were asleep, excepting of course, the National Equirer?

This is why I say: READ EVERYTHING!!!!
Even if you disagree with it, you can learn. Not all side got a corner on "the truth." In today's world, you will only find it throught a multitude of publications, some critical thinking, and a knowledge of history.

As King Solomon once wrote:

"What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun."

Focal Point wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:28 PM:WASHINGTON – John McCain's chief foreign policy adviser and his business partner lobbied the senator or his staff on 49 occasions in a 3 1/2-year span while being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the government of the former Soviet republic of Georgia. Yep. There is that John McCain international experience again.

hey extreme patriotism wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:28 PM:You forgot; "Yes I support Russia because the U.S. has been harrasing them with wanting to put missles on their border and supporting a military buildup there also." Chris

To Truth is stranger than fiction wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:31 PM:Very clever!!! The sad thing is that it is true John McLaim is going to put the screws to the middle class. Thanks for the laughs.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 2:45 PM:How about my response to my amigo "Chris" Mr Ed?
Come on with it.

OBAMACAN wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:04 PM:You are so right, Ron at 2:23 p.m., about the national "mainstream" press being a disgrace for missing the story about a years-old adultery by a major candidate who then lied about it during the current campaign.
Oh, but, No, I am not talking about John Edwards. He is a nothing. A has-been. A FORMER one-term senator and candidate.
I am talking about JOHN McSHAME, the actual current nominee of the Republican Party.
Since stories have been reported by mainstream sources such as Newsweek (June 30) and the Los Angeles Times (July 11) using court records and other documentation to confirm that he was carrying on his lengthy affair with Cindy while still living with his first wife, Carol, you know, the one who waited for him through those years of POW captivity, and then LYING about the chronology during this year's campaign.
So, Ron, you gonna hold McPain to the same standard? The mainstream media to the same standard for a Republican as for a has-been, old-news Democrat?
Where are all the worldwide banner headlines and days of 24/7 cable news coverage?

hardtack wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:22 PM:So, Nick, can we assume that when the voting Muslim population in the US reaches 51%, they take it all – – since we are a democracy that doesn’t use the Constitution anymore?

Here Come Da Judge wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:25 PM:A federal court "overseer" has asked a federal judge to seize $8 BILLION from the California treasury, to pay for new medical facilities for California prisoners.

Instead, could we pay Mexico to house our prisoners? Many are from there anyway, and are currently living better in prison than they ever lived in Mexico!

But, heck, California has a great surplus so another $8 BILLION is no problem.

Say what wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:39 PM:As regards the 10:39 post: Did “City of Oceanside discriminating” accidently fail to mention the homeless, or lawbreakers who are assigned community service, or was “City of Oceanside discriminating” discriminating?

Ron wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:54 PM:Why all this incessant interest in John McCain's martial history, "OBAMACAN"
@3:04 PM?

That's been fully vetted, aired, and people yawned about it, it was so long ago, water under the bridge, and all.
Now, don't get me wrong, it is a charactor issue, but which standard are we NOW judging it? I mean...

When Bill Clinton was in his mess, the left attempted to say "Move-On", nothing to see here, besides.. he needs to get back to doing the important work of the American people. We have the "Bill Clinton standard" of it not being important, and now you say, this 30 plus year old story is NOW an issue?
Come on...

By the way, have you heard the latest?
In 2006, Obama trip to visit Raila Amolo Odinga. Odinga is the head of the National Muslim Leaders Forum [NAMLEF}, called the Orange Democratic Movement. The ODM is definitely no democratic political party. The ODM is dedicated to overthrowing the legitimate democratic government of Kenya.
And Odinga is not really concerned how he achieves his objective. It matters little to him if he assumes power by hook or crook, he determined to become the president of Kenya. And vows
he will be president for life.

Obama's bias for Odinga was so blatant that the current government complained that Obama appeared to be Odinga's stooge. Not only did Obama campaign for his Islamic friend, he convinced former Clinton adviser Dick Morris to become Odinga's campaign adviser.

Odinga bothers the US because, Raila Odinga cut a deal for support from Vladimir Putin and the former Soviet Union. And, He incited his tribal followers to go on a murderous rampage in towns that were primarily Christian.

Interesting, huh?

Ms M wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:02 PM:Nick
[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 1:35 PM:..um Nick - shucks forget it - major waste of time!

Just Asking wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:09 PM:Fairly often supporters of “drill here, drill now” have been accused of owning oil stock or otherwise to have been in the pockets of Big Oil.

I suppose that there would be a conflict of interest if one was to have a financial advantage.

Then how about Nancy Pelosi?

Her own investments include a sweetheart 2007 IPO of Good Old T-Bone Pickens natural gas-powered automobiles. Pickens wants the wind power project to free up natural gas to be used in automobiles as a cleaner fuel than gasoline.

Now that investment has made lots of financial progress, and Nancy has made REALLY GOOD MONEY.

(Good for her! My personal experience with Liquefied Natural Gas is several decades old, and it may be viable today, but in the old days, LNG escaped the cryogenic tanks at a rate of 2% a day, and you could tell the drivers because they had no eyebrows or facial hair!)

But for the stock Nancy owns to really take off, oil and gas must remain expensive and T-Bone must get LOTS of subsidized support. If gas dropped precipitously, natural gas could not compete.

So, it is in Nancy’s economic advantage NOT to drill. Is it possible that her reluctance to permit a vote on drilling just MIGHT have some personal economic advantage.

You see, if a Blogger has an economic advantage that is minimal because Bloggers do not wield any political power.

But, how about the most powerful elected woman in Washington, third in line to the presidency, and the one person best positioned to permit or stop oil drilling?

Bill wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:13 PM:Chris

Wikipedia also says that Aarafat refused 97% of the occupied territories in Oslo. You have steadfastly denied that but now cite Wiki.

You called that a lie but Wiki says its true.

How convenient.

Do you cite Wiki only when it fits your agenda?

Palestinians are direct descendents of the Phillistines. They were Slavic nomads that migrated from waht is now known as Greek Macedonia and settled in the fertile crest region centuries ago.

Over the years, they have bred with Arab conquerors.

I have told you this before but you ignore me each time.

Palestinians were squatters and were formerly referred to as Phillistines and not Palestinians.

That area was Judea after a rebellion was quashed. The area was also known as Phillistina. Only MUCH MUCH later did it become known as Palestine. Never was it a soveriegn state and was once a province of Israel and once a province of Jordan.

The modern vernacular at that time referred to it as Phillistina.

Also,you cite the Egyptians losing the Gaza in 67. UNEF forces were kicked out by Nasser so Egypt could mount troops in an attempt to strike Israel and it was met with a pre-emptive attack.

Israel had no plans of taking it until then. Now, the Palestinians turn it over to Hamas for agressive purposes. The Golan Heights and Hebron are high points where Israel has used for defensive purposes and not the agressive ones you have claimed many times.

Ive been there.

Have you?

How can you support someone who wants to kill others toward their goal of world domination?

Your ignorance of Middle East affairs is staggering for someone who claims to be "educated".

Reardon wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:35 PM:Most of my conservative brethren will not acknowledge this fact, but the truth is we are spread too thin to be a force in the Russia/Georgia conflict. We are struggling on two fronts and Russia knows we have no teeth. Lip service is all we have and I hope it works and stops the escalation of violence.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:38 PM:Well "Hardtack", you are correct on both points.
If the Muslim population were to become 51% of our population, they would definitely take it over.
Look at how much we bend over for Illegals and the Pro-Illegal crowd in this Country. Remember "Hardtack", we must always be P.C....lol.
The Constitution? You mean that thing I took and oath once to uphold that GWB uses for toilet paper?
That piece of paper that is supposed to keep us a Democracy?
Shoot "Hardack", the Liberal Dems want to turn America into a Socialist Country and give into every whiner who comes down the turnpike.
You don't think they actually have the spine to stand up to a bunch of demanding Muslims do you?
Of course, Obama will just want to sit and chat with them...lol. That's about all he's good for anyways, a lot of talk!
Cheers, Nick.

Alf wrote on Aug 13, 2008 4:48 PM:Well, "Reardon" at 7:27AM (if you are the real "Reardon"),
I hold any country in contempt that acts, without just cause, as the aggressor -
the U.S. invading and occupying Iraq
AND
Georgia attacking South Ossetia.
NEITHER Iraq
NOR South Ossetia
did anything that warranted or provoked the attack on them.
Unless you call having something that the aggressor wanted to be just cause.
Regards, Alf.

OBAMACAN wrote on Aug 13, 2008 5:09 PM:Get your story straight, Ron at 3:54 p.m.
If you think that John McCain's marital history of adultery with LIES about the time line during THIS YEAR's campaign, then why are YOU the one making such a big deal in your 2:23 p.m. web comment, about how important it is for the mainstream media to be following up on John Edwards's marital history, and he isn't even a candidate any more?
He is a has-been, one-term senator who holds no current position.
You are a huge, double-standard hypocrite.
But from the same party that conducted the witch hunt against Bill Clinton for oral sex while they were all doing much worse, we expect nothing less.
Thank you for this perfect demonstration of Republican "ethics".

By Any Other Name wrote on Aug 13, 2008 5:51 PM:Alf:The 7:27 was Reardon, the 4:35 was not Reardon but the Twit. Reardon also was Just Asking, Here Come Da Judge, Georgian Aggression, and Liberal Manifesto.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:01 PM:Funny "Obamacan", your man Obama isn't even a "has-been" one term Senator yet, and has accomplished NOTHING in his political career to speak of.
This is the man people like you want as President...LOL.
Sure, lets' talk about ethics.....

SOLON wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:13 PM:Georgian Arsonist

Focal Point focuses on a vital point: who started this stupid little war against South Ossetia? Thank you, Focal Point (12:42 PM) for stating the facts.

The American press is idiotically falling once again for the jingoism of the White House propagandists and war mongers. You won’t get the facts from the White House operatives, nor from the politicians. I was startled to read the real truth in a column in today’s NC Times, editorial page, by Gwynne Dyer. He’s a Brit, of course. The American press either doesn’t get it, or is too intimidated to state the truth.

Dyer states the obvious: George Bush and John McCain have been humiliated by this defeat. McCain is still out there blowing hot air, just as his airplane set down in Iowa. He strode to the microphone for the first of several blistering statements condemning Russia's moves, delivering his comments well before President Bush spoke publicly about the incident.
McCain's rhetoric has become increasingly sharp. On Tuesday, he called Russia an unrepentant combatant against a "brave little nation" and compared Russian "killing" in the "tiny little democracy" to Soviet aggression during the Cold War era.

He makes no mention of the Bush invasion of Iraq, a nation which never attacked America, never even threatened to attack us, and had no practical means of waging war against us until we invaded their country as an aggressor. He never mentioned the million plus Iraqi people killed and dead as a result of our aggression. He never mentioned the 4.5 million Iraqi refugees who were driven from their homes. And he does not mention that the Bush war drags on for six years, while the Russians came in as peacekeepers with adequate force and restored order and peace within four days.

Dyer added that Bush overplayed his hand by stalking all around the Bear’s lair, poking sticks at the Russian Bear, and now Bush pretends that the Bear is the aggressor for slapping him upside his head bone.

The longer and the louder McCain storms, the more apparent it becomes how effete and powerless he and Bush are to do a damn thing.

STATISTICS wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:19 PM:Nick and his STATISTICS

It is a well known, incontrovertible fact that 92.84 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:23 PM:Well "Statistics", you didn't prove me wrong, just made up one of your own.
Try again!

STATISTICS wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:23 PM:Nick and his STATISTICS

And finally, although it is a well known, incontrovertible fact that 92.84 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot, it is also an incontrovertible fact that Nick makes up 99.99 percent of his own statistics on the spot about Muslims.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:35 PM:Sure "Obamacam", let's talk ethics....lol.

- Rep. William Jefferson of Louisiana, who is under investigation of alleged bribery in connection with helping market broadband telecommunication services in Nigeria. Former aide Brent Pfeffer and businessman Vernon Jackson have pleaded guilty. An FBI raid on Jefferson's houses in New Orleans and Washington last year found $90,000 in cash in his freezer. Jefferson hasn't been charged and has denied wrongdoing. His attorney, Robert Trout, declined to comment.

- Rep. Alan Mollohan of West Virginia, who directed federal grants to non-profit groups back home while entering real estate deals with top officials of the groups. The congressman's personal wealth jumped. Mollohan has defended his actions as designed to bring economic development to his district, but he had to step down as the top Democrat on the House ethics committee.

- Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, the subject of staff complaints that he assigned workers to babysit, chauffeur and tutor his children and pushed aides to do campaign work on government time. Conyers attorney Stan Brand said the congressman responded to the charges two years ago and hasn't heard from the ethics committee since then.

- Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)McKinney, who is black, allegedly struck a Capitol police officer as he tried to stop her from bypassing a security checkpoint. After first accusing the officer of racial profiling, McKinney -- under pressure from her Democratic colleagues -- apologized on the House floor. But she may still face assault charges.

- Patrick Kennedy (D-RI) Kennedy, the son of Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA), apparently rammed his car into a police barrier not far from the Capitol. Reports say he staggered out of his car, saying he was late for a vote on the House floor. The House had adjourned more than three hours prior. One report said his breath smelled of alcohol and another said patrons at a local bar indicated Kennedy may have been there late drinking, but that no breathalyzer test was given. Instead, Capitol police drove him home. Kennedy says he remembers nothing of the incident, but insists alcohol was not a factor and that he is addicted to prescription pain medicine and suffers from depression. He said he would check himself into the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., which he had also done back in December. And he said he had no intention of resigning his seat.

Oh sure, Dems are a fine example of outstanding ethics...LOL.
When are you folks going to realize that BOTH parties suck?

SOLON wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:37 PM:The Audacity of Dope

I just read a blog entitled "The Audacity of Dope" (posted 9:00 AM), in which the author stated that just because we have new oil drilling technology, we should continue the same dirty carbon energy policy rather than pursue economically and environmentally sound energy solutions.

My, my, my! Such AUDACITY!

gracchus wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:45 PM:chuck, with your outburst of 12:03 you debase yourself.
john murtha is a decorated united states marine. he regularly visits wounded troops at walter reed. he is concerned about the integrity of u.s. troops.
you question his patriotism. on what grounds?
your belittling of his masculinity is typical of those who have doubts about their own.
what are your credentials, chuck? did you serve in the u.s. armed forces as murtha did?
if you don't like a politician, at least be intelligent in the way that you criticize him or her.
you remarked the other day that you found mud-slinging fun. fine. go to a mud pit and sling all that you want. but brief snipes, despite what you might think, are neither charming nor witty. they are puerile outbursts which add nothing to a serious discussion.

OBAMA MAMA wrote on Aug 13, 2008 6:46 PM:I understand Brian Bilbray embraced the endorsement of Jeff Schwilk (Schw-ILK) as warmly as John McCain embraced the endorsement of Pastor John Hagee, the radical Armageddon preacher. We probably won’t see Bilbray eschew this important endorsement, however. Bilbray needs the base element.

Cluck wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:01 PM:Darrel Beck I really have to thank you. Thank you for expsoing the hypocracy of the right much much better than any liberal could. He laments that Michelle and barack HUSSEIN obama are challenging Americans to "shed their cynicism and require you to work". Really? My, but that sounds like the "conservative" mantra of "pull yourself up by the bootstraps". See folks, that's how the filthy conservative mind works; say one thing and mean another. That's what happens when you have no real convictions other than hate. And then he makes the stupid elitist remark that HUSSEIN is the elitist. We all know that he doesn't believe that. We all know that Cindy and John McCain are the elitist, not HUSSEIN. HUSSEIN is a guy who pulled himself up by the bootstraps. McCain and his bug eyed weird looking stepford trophy wife are the elitist. He knows it. And typical of a conservative says one thing and means another. Typical.

The Aggressor wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:03 PM:Georgian Aggression

Georgia, with an army of 26,000 soldiers attacked South Ossettia, a tiny unarmed province with a population of 70,000 civilians. Hey, that’s fewer people than the city of Vista! Georgia quickly massacred 1,400 of those Ossetians, set homes and public buildings on fire and declared victory - - prematurely, it seems. The Russian Bear came in with a vengeance to protect her lair, and chased the stupid Georgians out, scattering their army of 26,000 which quickly dissolved into nothing.

Cluck wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:04 PM:Another terrorist attack on a democrat campaign office. And surely the conservatives are dancing in the streets. We need to stop them here before we fight them over there.

Cluck wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:07 PM:Everyone knows that off shore drilling is a joke. Like the war on terrorism. It's a slogan that dimwitted conservatives can understand. Maybe the elitist should rule the world? The idiots have done a terrible job. And since when is "elitism" anything but "american"? Are they admitting that they are "peasants"? Come on guys, pull yourselves up by the bootstraps and strive to be better. You can do it.

STATISTICS wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:12 PM:STATISTICS

More on Nick’s statistics:

It’s not so much that Nick makes up statistics, as do I. It is that Nick fabricates such a huge volume, a great voluminous tome of statistics about Muslims. People may read my one statistic, but they don’t read Nick’s volumes of fabrications.

Marianne wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:19 PM:Thank you, OBAMACAN for telling me about John McCain’s disgraceful infidelity to his first wife. I had not heard this story, and must admit I was skeptical until I found the LA times article online that you mentioned.

Why doesn’t America know about this despicable behavior? It seems John McCain has a skunkier youth than George W. Bush.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:56 PM:Well "Statistics", all you have done is call me a liar, but have yet to post anything that proves me wrong.
Most folks around these parts know that I do my homework before I post.
What part of my statistics do you have a problem with?
I have been wrong a few times in the past and when pointed out by other bloggers, dug a little deeper and apologized and made the corrections.

So far, all I see from you is a coward who hides behind a pseudonym on this blog and has called me a liar 3 times, but doesn't have the cajones to man up and prove me wrong.
I do my homework and am man enough to put my name out here day in and day out.
And if you've been around here long enough, you might have even caught my last name from a few of the letters to the editor I have written.
I'm still waiting, but I won't hold my breath.

Vlad Putin for Pres wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:59 PM:He seems to have a lot of support on THIS Blog!

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:03 PM:So tell me oh wise sage "Statistics", where did Islam begin? With Mohammed you say?
Mohammed, Prophet of Islam is known as the "Apostle of Peace" by Muslims. Nothing could be further from the truth.

When Mohammed first started screaming from the rooftops that he alone had the divine word of God, the people of Mecca ignored him. However, when he started insulting and defaming the religion of the peace loving Meccans, they couldn't take it anymore and tried persuading him to stop. Mohammed the coward was too scared of the growing hostility against him and instead of calling upon his Allah to strike down the Meccans, he crept out one night and fled for his life.

Ever since that incident, Mohammed was determined to take revenge on the Meccans. He escaped to Medinah, which had a sizeable Jewish population, and started plotting his revenge with a small gang of criminals. This was the beginning of Mohammed's trail of violence, hatred and bloodshed that would soon destroy the once flourishing culture of Arabia. The story has been documented in detail by his biographers. Surprise raids on trade caravans and tribal settlements, the use of plunder thus obtained for recruiting an ever growing army of greedy desperados, assassinations of opponents, blackmail, expulsion and massacre of the Jews of Medinah, attack and enslavement of the Jews of Khayber, rape of women and children, sale of these victims after rape, trickery, treachery and bribery employed to their fullest extent to grow the numbers of his religion Islam which ironically was supposed to mean "Peace".

Do yourself a favor and read the Quran and study the hisotry of Islam and come back and talk to me.
Cheers, Nick.

Apollo wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:05 PM:Re: Nick (6:35 p.m.)
It is really funny to see the spinning, spinning, spinning of the desperate Republicans, trying to make lemonade out of the bag of rotten lemons they've inherited.
And here comes Nick, purportedly responding to a comment about McCain and ethics that was posted in support of Obama, and he lists examples of everyone BUT Obama!
By Nick's process of elimination, Obama must be the only clean candidate and so, by Nick's standards, other than his failure to read up on Obama's actual achievements, Obama is the only person in the U.S. actually qualified to be President!
Couple of notes, William Jefferson of Louisiana has pleaded not guilty and has not been convicted of anything. As you note, he hasn't even been charged with anything! While most people prefer to keep cash in banks, some do not trust banks, and keeping cash in refrigerators or under mattresses is not a crime.
As you note, no action has been taken on rumors about Conyers that, as you note, so far have absolutely no substantiation, even despite the many years of Republican control of the process.
Cynthia McKinney was ousted by her strongly Democratic district the next time she came up for election. She lost the Democratic primary and Democrats replaced her with a more ethical representative.
No one claims that Democrats have not occasionally crossed the line and in some cases been downright criminal. But if you really want to go tit for tat on actual convictions in the last decade, I'm not sure you really want to go there. Maybe you can get some advice from Randy Cunningham on getting too eager here.
In the meantime, you really didn't help Ron when he was caught red-handed making a big deal about media silence on Edwards recent lies about a years-old affair while dismissing as a "yawn" the same thing from McCain which actually resulted in the failure of his marriage.
Still got nothing on Obama?
You guys crack me up.

Russia Da Da wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:39 PM:Vlad Putin for Pres[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 7:59 PM: Putin has already been a President and is now Prime Minister. Bush looked into eyes and saw his soul.
Gotta wonder about Bush. If he did that, Bush would have known that Putin would sooner or later slap Bush,swagging war monger up side the head.

Ms M wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:42 PM:More from the cons candidate McWar:

Speaking to reporters about the situation in Georgia, Sen. John McCain denounced the aggressive posture of Russia by claiming that:"in the 21st century nations don't invade other nations."....um didn't he support the invasion of Iraq by us........so just what is going on?????????? Flip Flop or old man yelling at clouds!

Fact Checker wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:43 PM:Human Rights Watch identifies South Ossetia as a "breakaway region of Georgia: -- it is NOT a breakaway region of Russia!

North Oosetia is a Russian province. South Ossetia is a Georgian province!

Comprende? Human Rights Watch website gives the history thusly: "South Ossetia was an autonomous province of Georgia during the Soviet era. It declared independence from Georgia in 1990, and armed conflict between South Ossetian and Georgian forces ensued in 1991 and 1992. The conflict ended in 1992 with a ceasefire and establishment of a tripartite peacekeeping force, with Russian, Ossetian and Georgian peacekeeping battalions. The ceasefire adhered, but tensions continued, with Georgia accusing Russia of providing assistance to South Ossetia’s separatist movement."

Too Old wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:44 PM:McCain: "In The 21st Century Nations Don't Invade Other Nations" Did Tonto, Joe Lieberman, run up to the Lone Ranger to inform him that the US has invaded and occupied two sovereign nations. Johni is just too darned old.

Pay Back Time wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:49 PM:Ron[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 3:54 PM: OL. The Repbs didn't let Clinton get over it. Expect the same courtesy. Its going to be out ther about Johnnie's marital history day after day after day. Just wait until after the conventions.

OBAMACAN wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:51 PM:To Marianne at 7:19 p.m.:
You are more than welcome.
And for those not familiar with the article she is referring to, it is the Los Angeles Times from July 11, 2008, in the print edition it was page A1.
There is also a great article in Newsweek for June 30, 2008.

For those who haven't read it, both the scope of documentation and the extent of McCain's duplicity with his first wife, which alienated him from a previous long-time friendship with the Reagans (Nancy was especially close to jilted wife Carol), will be stunning. I encourage all to read it for themselves.

Fact Checker wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 PM:APOLLO, I would have sworn that the National Inquirer caught Edwards visiting his girlfriend just two or three weeks ago! In fact the Inquirer said he had also had a previous liaison the previous month.

What is this "years old affair" unless you meant to infer that it had been going continuously on for years? Which, in fact it had been going on since BEFORE his girlfriend joined the campaign.

There are more shoes to drop.

sdraoul wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:56 PM:"Too Old" is another joke. The Congress of the United States authorized regiem change and Bill Clinton signed it. The Congress authorized use of force in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Too old is too stupid to udnerstand what McCain meant. he was right in saying that. He meant nations don't invade to for real estate or oil pipelines without violating all rules.

sdraoul wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:58 PM:Obamacan--story si too old to be worth anything about McCain and his first wife. Old news.

Now, reveren Jeremiah Wright, there's a story that needs telling.

OBAMACAN wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:09 PM:Fact Checker at 8:53 p.m. needs a spell checker.
It is National Enquirer with an "E" not an "I" - I don't normally complain about others' typing or spelling, goddess knows I mess up enough of my own, but your claim to verifying others' accuracy becomes quickly suspect when you can't even get your source right.
Further, my sources that Apollo was referring to, were the Los Angeles Times and Newsweek, two of the most highly regarded journalism sources in the country, not the National Enquirer.
Moreover, all parties assert that the meeting with Edwards last month did not involve his affair, which had ended, however, frankly I don't give a potfull of used Boston baked beans for Edwards.
Like I said, he is a nothing. A has-been. A FORMER of whatever he once was.
While he was busy talking about the "other America" he was cheating with the "other Woman."
I'm through with him and so is the U.S.

Who checks the "Fact Checker's" facts?

So, shall we talk about an actual candidate? How about John McCain.
Oops, you don't want to go there, do ya, cuz if the attention is on McCain - whether his personal life or his policy proposals - he loses.

Nick wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:14 PM:Mmmmmmmm......."Apollo", who are "you guys"?
You must have me confused with someone else.
My list was to show that Dems are just as slimey as Repubs, end of story.
List of Obamas achievements?
Please give me the huge list...lol.
You mean the achievment that Obama has raked in more than McCain thru the loophole in campaign contributions known as "Joint Committees".
Obama is flat-out kicking McCain's butt when it comes to Wall Street contributions, raking in nearly $9 million from securities and investment executives, compared to $6.2 million for McCain. Obama has received more contributions from Goldman Sachs than from any other employer — more than $627,000 at this point in time — not to mention $398,021 from JP Morgan Chase, $353,922 from Lehman Brothers and $291,388 from Morgan Stanley. Even among hedge-fund executives, who have an unequivocal interest in electing McCain, Obama is whipping the Republican, collecting $500,000 more than McCain.

Might I suggest you go back and read my posts from the 11th. I ripped McIdiot and Obama, Dems and Repubs alike.

Sorry "Apollo", Obama is NOT more qualified to be President of this great Country than McCain.
You see, they are BOTH losers and neither is qualified to lead us, but especially NOT a man with not even a full term in the Senate under his belt.
Not to mention the fact that both the Republican Party and Democrat Party have done NOTHING but help run this Country into the ground.

Yeppers, it's time for a change alright. Time to rid ourselves of BOTH of these lame Parties, lame excuses for Presidents and take our Country back.

The Campaign for Liberty!
Cheers, Nick.

Ms M wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:32 PM:Fact Checker
[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:53 PM:...who cares about Edwards - non issue, not running for anything, just tabloid news that Americans are sick of. However, we have a CURRENT presidential candidate who did the SAME THING BUT WORSE - he left his injured wife for Cindy. It doesn't make any difference if it is now or 40 yrs. ago. I don't think that there is a statute of limitations on adultry (especially in the minds of the religous folks who are conservative - you know that family value/moral stuff the cons stood for). Now, do you really want this to keep going?

OBAMACAN wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:39 PM:See what I mean, SDRaoul at 8:58 p.m.
Raoul still tries to divert all the attention away from his own failed loser of a candidate, John McSame, and his four more years of Bob Dole.
Raoul doesn't want anyone to look at what Paris Hilton brilliantly called the "wrinkly old white haired guy" - you know, the fraud behind the curtain.
Raoul does not want anyone to remember that on healthcare, energy, the economy, and the war, McShame is just a continuation of the failed Bush administration.
And even when he spews his hateful ad hominem attacks against Obama, he can't actually find anything about Obama himself.

Raoul wants us to think of a retired minister who served in the military with far greater distinction than Raoul himself ever did.
What's the matter, Raoul, are you alleging that Obama cheated on his pastor?
Attended a different church?

C'mon, Raoul, I know you read the L.A. Times.
The affair ruined a marriage and alienated McBlame from the Reagans.
The lies about the timeline were THIS YEAR. McSame is STILL LYING.
McCain cannot be trusted.

Fact Checker wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:43 PM:Fact Checker is right, and he is Fact Checker, not Spell Checker.

The LA Times did not break this story and is following the Enquirer in every step. Since the liaisons were mostly in LA, at least this year, you would think the Times would have broken the story.

BTW, Edwards met her THREE times this year, according to the Enquirer. Fact Checker was wrong, but on the LOW SIDE!

I would love to quote other sources, but they all blew it and the Enquirer got it right so far.

Floyd wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:45 PM:Actually, the fact that Edwards was cheating on his wife and lying about it in public makes him prime presidential material for the Democrat Party, just like Bill Clinton was. All he needs to do is select Hillary as a co-president (to shake up the White House Travel Office again) and Barak as Vice President (so he can get some more experience in the Senate) and he's ready to go. The Democrat voters will positively swoon when presented with this ideal ticket. Really, it's the way to go.

Too Old wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:51 PM:sdraoul[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:56 PM:
What a fool. McCain said what he said. We can not guess at what he meant. We don't have a crystal ball or the ability to read his mind. but your retort is typical sdraoul. Personal insults constantly shows that you are not a gentleman despite the fact that you were a Lt. for a day. How's Pancho doing?

get It wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:55 PM:Fact Checker[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:43 PM: It is broken away. It declared its independence. Georgian military forces killed 12 Russian and wounded 150 peacekeepers. That is why the Georgians just got their a--kicked.

Ms M wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:55 PM:Nick
[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:14 PM:..Obama is flat-out kicking McCain's butt when it comes to Wall Street contributions...yeah Nick, just look at how McCain has profited from LOBBYIST:

The non-partisan group Campaign Money Watch has come up with another startling figure for those who follow the presidential money chase.

According to an analysis performed by the group, McCain's top fundraisers and aides have collected nearly $1 billion in fees from U.S. companies in the past decade -- specifically, $930,949,819. Using numbers provided by the Center for Responsive Politics, the group also found that officials of those very same companies have given nearly $12 million to McCain's presidential campaign, so far.

"The McCain campaign relies on big money lobbyists, and they'll rely on him," said David Donnelly, director of Campaign Money Watch. "In the 'you-scratch-my-back, I'll-scratch-yours' world of Washington, $931 million gets the special interests the best government money can buy. But just think of the payday these lobbyists might expect in a McCain Administration."

Those darn politicians - just can't trust 'em!

Gotta Wonder wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:02 PM:sdraoul[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 8:56 PM:
"The Congress authorized regime change."
So what! The United States does not have the authority go regime change period.
Authorized or not, the US invaded two sovereign nations, Iraq and Afghanistan.
You, sdraoul, can neither deny it or mitigate the facts. Calling people names does not change the facts. But, I do like it when you show up, sdraoul. Can you hear the laugher? Its the audience. Night night.

Ms M wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:07 PM:Nick
[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 9:14 PM:Yeppers, it's time for a change alright. Time to rid ourselves of BOTH of these lame Parties, lame excuses for Presidents and take our Country back....

Before we can even start to take our country back, we have to change the money rules in campaigns. As long as it takes a billion dollars to run for president....the money has to come from somewhere - so take the money out of politics and the people win. Even the media might do a job of honest reporting (not making the news)if they too aren't making $$$$ trying to keep this madness going. I cannot see why the election process goes on for 2 yrs. At the rate we are going 6 mos. after the inauguration, the campaigning will start for 2012. It's just one massive money machine. What do we, the constituents, have to show for it? And who is paying down the road when the markers are called in?

Cluck wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:30 PM:So now the conservative mess-aya Rush Limpdough is blaming the Edwards affair on Elizabeth, saying that maybe he slept around because his wife is smarter than him and in being smarter talks a lot and he wanted somebody who did something with their mouth other than talk. Typical conservative. No wonder they admire the plastic stepford robotic wives like Nancy, Laura, and this freaky eyed Cindy. They like their women dumb and mute. No wonder the hate Hillary so much and will vilify Michelle. A smart powerful woman is the scariest thing in the world to a filthy conservative. And of course they are dancing in the streets to their puppet master Rush. He twists words to make a trap for fools. And they love every minute of it.

Cluck wrote on Aug 13, 2008 10:33 PM:I always find it funny that Jeff Schwilk ryhmes with "ilk".

bogie wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:13 PM:Why do Democrats feel the need to do word play on Republican candidates names(McSame, Mcbush etc.)? I don't see the Republicans doing a lot of that. I wonder why that is.

The curious want to know. Come on bloggers on this site, specically what is your reason?

soaring eagle wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:58 PM:I always find it funny that democrat ryhmes with"rat". Thanks for the setup Cluck.

black ball readjustment wrote on Aug 14, 2008 3:33 AM:To all my fellow Oceanside surfers;
Who ever you are who responded to Russell Ames' letter really lit a fire under me. I too am sick and tired of the ridiculously tiny "surfing only" areas. We all need to rally our City Leaders, The Department of Harbor and Beaches and The Oceanside Lifeguard Head Quarters and do our utmost to widen the "surfing only" boundaries. We must collect their 100% support...collectively to do this. Who's with me on this?
As an Oceanside resident surfer I too am disgusted with the trash left behind by all of the disrespectful beach goers.
We, the Oceanside surfers are a proud lot and with pride comes respect for OUR beach, A CLEAN BEACH. The more areas we have to surf the less the undesirables will be around to trash the place. I guarantee that our broadened surfing presence alone will organically reduce beach litter.
Take a good long look at Carlsbad's black ball boundaries. Let's not go there. Carlsbad has an old history of sticking it to Oceanside or does Oceanside have a history of sticking it to itself? Sorry 'bout that cheap shot. It's just that I used to clean the great ex-city manager of Oceanside John Mammaux's swimming pool way back in the day and I got the low-down. Any old school City and civilian folk remember him? Anyway, I digress.
City Leaders take heed. This wont cost you a dime. It's simple mathematics. The more surfers, surfers of all styles from old school nose riders to air-pulling rippers with our stately presence will regulate and dominate the beach scene once again. Our once great kingdom, sans the corporate nonsense, will rise like a phoenix from the ashes of mediocrity. We'll even pit a tidy sum of useless wannabe gang banger clowns too...and we won't even send you a bill. See that? More free stuff for the City! Money in the bank my friends, money in the bank. So that's how you do it.
Wait!...there's more. Let's take back our beach! Take it back from the cheap skate inlander tourist who never spent the massive amounts of money that you anticipated he or she would spend! Let's take it back from the wannabe gang banger tough guys and their trashy harlots! Let's take it back from those out-of-towners who arrive from....say 300 miles east o' the I-5 and 50 miles north of the I-8! Let's take the beach back from all those who don't respect it!
The black ball boundary lines must be readjusted! This gerrymandered black ball zone has well exceeded it's life span! Out with the old and in with the new! Let's evolve here people! Aw come on Oceanside City Leaders. We all know you folks like "new stuff". "New stuff" like row houses and a remodeled Pac-Bell building (Don't even think of touching that post office across the street from it either.) We want some "new stuff" too. Like more places to surf! I'm soooo tired of the pier fisherman dropping fish bait guts on me when I'm paddling in only to feel their 12 lb test line run across my chest as I hit the lip. Can you imagine what's on the opposite end of that line? A HOOK... DADGUMMET!!!
Your surfing constituency strongly urges you to listen to the locals or you'll get your pink slips come election day. I AM OUT!


In the great words of Jim Rome:
RACK HIM !!! HUGE,HUGE,HUUUUGE!

God Speed;
Helvis

Focal Point wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:55 AM:bogie[-] wrote on Aug 13, 2008 11:13 PM:
You are hilarious. Just look at the misuse of the name, "Barry" and "Hussein." Republicans do it all the time.

bogie wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:40 AM:FP, your reference is to 2 people on this blog(Chuck and Ron). How many dems/libs on this blog do it? Your retort falls short and doesn't answer my question. My post said "I don't see the Republicans doing a lot of that". Two on the right is not a lot. I am truly curious about this phenomenon.

Peace and The Campaign for Liberty

Nick wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:47 AM:Well "Ms M", it seems as though you and I have found some middle ground and actually agree on something.
There has been more money spent on this election, than any other in history.
It is totally out of control and something must be done.
I pointed out in my blogs back on the 11th how the FEC isn't even monitoring this election. They were out for 6 months and just now reconvened. It's a little late in the game for them to actually do something. And now with the loophole known as "Joint Committees", corporate donors can go to a fundraiser and drop $70,000 dollars.
The candidate still gets the $2,300.00 and the rest goes to the Party of that candidate. Then the Party uses the money for the Candidate. Nice way around finance reform.
Obama is no better than McIdiot when it comes to taking money from lobbists and big business, and that is what I have pointed out in the past.
Obama is willing to say or do anything to win this election just as McCain.
I pick on Obama because of all his hot air about campaign reform and running on small donations from the little guy.
It's a bold faced lie and at least McIdiot doesn't have the nerve to say he's not taking the money.
Neither of these yahoos shoud be leading our party.
What's the next step "Ms M"? You and I both agree that there is a huge problem, but how do we fix it?

I think I have the answer, check it out.

The Campaign for Liberty.
Cheers, Nick.

Nick wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:06 AM:Sorry, didn't mean "Party" in the last part. I meant "leading our Country".
Cheers, Nick.

Focal Point wrote on Aug 14, 2008 11:37 AM:bogie[-] wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:40 AM: All you have to do is listen to Conservative radio talk or shows like Sean and Combs or Bill O'Riely and especially good ole Rush. It is part of the attack dictum of Karl Row. It is called sliming.
The people on the blog who do it are not very original. In fact, they are copy cats.

richard wrote on Aug 14, 2008 2:35 PM:There are actually people here who think that the national anthem's "bombs bursting in air" refers to us dropping bombs on bad guys. It has nothing to do with that. In fact, quite the opposite. It was written when the city of Baltimore was being shelled by foreign tropops, attakcing us here on our soil. Under those condiotsn wer had every right to annihilate those invading forces and the song describes just that, something to be proud of, fighting back those who harm us. It never was intended to imply we ever had 'rights' to bomb people in a pre-emptive attack under the assumption that someday in the future they might attack us.

Nick wrote on Aug 14, 2008 4:40 PM:I guess "Richard" would rather we drop flowers and chocolate on "Bad Guys".

richard wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:01 PM:And where would you get that idea from? General Patton didn't seize Berlin by dropping chocolate. After those aggressors surrendered is when we had the Berlin 'candy drop' airlift operation. What I oppose is dropping bombs on people who had nothing to do with us. We were attacked in Baltimore and the song was about that. No person from Iraq ever attacked United States soil and yet we pre-emptively invaded Iraq anyway, assuming someday "they" might. Bush was wrong to accuse Iraq for the 9/11 attacks, wrong for accusing them for our own anthrax attacks, wrong about Hussein having cheical weapons other than the ones we sent him, and was wrong about him having deployable nukes, and was wrong to decide to control that country because he was afraid of Hussein and what he might do to us. We know he had no plans to do anything to us. He didn't like us. What of it? And I feel sorry that Bush got it wrong when he truly was trying to help, but he got it wrong. Again, our national anthem doesn't sing about dropping bombs (or chocolate)on people who never attacked us, nor who we accidentally thought might want some day to attack us. I can't change the anthem and its meaning and neither can you nor anyone else.

Focal Point wrote on Aug 14, 2008 7:23 PM:richard[-] wrote on Aug 14, 2008 6:01 PM:
Gen Patton did not capture Berlin. The Russians under Zurchov caputred Berlin.

richard wrote on Aug 14, 2008 8:31 PM:Oh please, however you want to describe it. The 101st airborne required relief by patton at bastogne because the major German offensive was in the Ardennes prior to taking over berlin. Patton later took adolf's horse, the 101st liberated dachau, etc. as you know. The russians fought into berlin also so what's your point? My definition of sieze is not incorrect and my point is that our allies and our ships were attacked, nazis invaded our soil, were in a position to take over the world and we defended ourselves which is the exact opposite of our invasion of Iraq. That was an expensive, destructive, wrong decision for Bush to have made and to change written intelligence estimates in order to convince congress to pre authorize. We're now in hock to China and the only thing I can surmise is that Bush probably also told them the same thing he told Australia and Poland, that we 'spared them' from an Iraqi anthrax attack, so the money was 'well spent'. And what is China going to do when they find out the truth? No Iraq was not like Nazi Germany, although both are antiSemitic. When Poland found out there were no anthrax labs like Bush told them, they withdrew their troops and said they were "misled." How sweet. Is China going to be as sweet? I don't know, but I don't think Bush or anyone else knows either. I stand by this assessment.

Nick wrote on Aug 14, 2008 9:34 PM:Looks like "Richard" can't man up for his mistakes. Instead he just continues his rant.
You hate GWB, big deal, so do a lot of people. Guess what genius? He's not up for re-election, and from your lame rants, we can tell you are an Obama lover. Oh yea, that' the right direction we should go...lol.
How about quit your whining and offer some solutions other than the typical Liberal Dem " GWB is a bad guy"...lol.
Yeah, thought so.....no solution!

Richard wrote on Aug 15, 2008 8:24 AM:What mistakes? Read the book Fox on the Front by Dobson who describes Patton's entry into Berlin with his 3rd Army. He at the time was made governor of Germany to oversee under Eisenhower the orchestration of order and justice after the Germans finally surrendered. My comment that Patton seized the city was not out of line. But yours was, that I proposed dropping chocolate on bad guys. What I proposed is for Bush, McCain and all like them in this country to stop with the stupid idea that we have 'rights' to pre-emptively bomb people who have nothing to do with us and never attacked us. Why this is such a tremendously difficult concept for them to understand is to me incredible. I earlier assumed it related to reaction to the 9/11 attacks, but I can't believe that is what still drives them to force our way into the wrong country. They've had time to correct their errors, to apologize to Australia for claiming we sved them from Iraqi anthrax attacks,etc. but Bush refuses to apologize. Now we debated offshore CA drilling, even while we are learning that gas prices go up when their is violence and instability in certain world regions. McCain blames these prices on Obama and sees no relation at all to the possibility that violence in Iraq has anything to do with it in any way. I'm not convinced. McCain says we will not leave unless our heads are high with our honor. I thought the purpose of going into Iraq was to liberate people? Whether we get honor or not should not be the main concern. Military heroes I know do their hard work without expecting such honor. Bush/McCain seem not to follow that mold. And I'm not a 'genius'. No one knows everything nor can predict the future with certainty, but that also includes Bush who currently still barks orders to our military in spite of being wrong on every count since shock and awe. And for the record I've been proposing a solution for a long time--get out of a country we never belonged in in the first place.

richard wrote on Aug 15, 2008 8:43 AM:I never said he was up for re-election. He has about 5 more months to continue making decisions (usually wrong ones) for the rest of us. Where did you get the idea that I said otherwise? It's amazing how people make stuff up about someone they don't like and then believe it so they retain the luxury of denouncing or ridiculing them. But it doesn't change facts into 'rants'. I stand by the two letters in 7 years I sent to Bush. His underlings never even bothered to say thanks for your information or even no thanks, we don't agree, nothing. So what solutions I have proposed have already been long rejected. I don't have to listen to this nonsense that I haven't offered solutions other than 'typical liberal dem' stuff. What? Bush is the most liberal theoretic government servant in the country, so liberal he does almost whatever he wants to whomever he wants when he wants. And you complain about liberal dems? I fail to see the humor deserving of lol's.

richard wrote on Aug 15, 2008 2:33 PM:And who I vote for is my business. I've said before I vote for the best candidate, sometimes writing in a name. This isn't a 'wasted vote' to me, but who I prefer in office. I will not be voting for McCain because he fully supports the idea that invading Iraq was a just, noble cause, when it was quite the opposite. He has never apologized for the false claims the Bush administration made about Iraq. And if anyone mistakenly viewed "bombs bursting in air" were our bombs bursting while our flag was still there, it would be someone with McCain's attitude of defiance and General Custer's 'never turn back without honor' viewpoint even when it's not justified. Now whether I write in someone or vote for the best person having a chance to defeat McCain, again is my business and my right.