HOUSING: Banks waiting longer to foreclose
Homeowners report not paying mortgages for eight months with no foreclosure.
By ZACH FOX - Staff Writer | ∞
Some homeowners in the area have gone months without paying their mortgages and have yet to receive a foreclosure notice ---- a development that suggests banks are overloaded and that also might mean foreclosure reports are understating the region's housing crisis.
Foreclosure numbers already are staggering, leading to a 35 percent decline in home prices from a year ago for Riverside County. Since January, more homes entered foreclosure than were sold to new buyers, according to monthly reports from several data firms.
But even that rate probably fails to include all the distressed homeowners.
Several homeowners in the area interviewed last week said that they stopped paying their mortgages six to eight months ago and still have not received a notice of default, which typically comes by the fourth month of nonpayment.
Combined with high foreclosure rates and rising delinquency numbers, the region's foreclosure problem appears likely to persist, if not increase, through the end of the year.
"It's not even volume anymore. It's a mountain of foreclosures. ... There's no comparison in history," said Ramsey Su, a real estate investor in San Diego who used to run a brokerage firm that sold foreclosures.
Living rent-free
About 1,070 default notices, the first step in foreclosure, have showed up at Southwest Riverside County home each month since January, according to ForeclosureRadar, a Northern California research firm. In contrast, about 650 homes were sold per month during the same time, according to sales data from the regional multiple listing service, used by real estate agents to sell homes.
In San Diego County, about 7,500 homes have entered foreclosure since January, also outpacing the number of homes sold there.
Analysts say the foreclosure process typically takes about eight months from the first missed payment, analysts said.
But now, real estate agents, mortgage brokers and homeowners are reporting that as many as eight months can pass before a notice of default is filed. From that notice, it takes another five to seven months to complete the foreclosure process.
One San Marcos homeowner, who did not want her name released for fear of initiating foreclosure, said she missed her first mortgage payment in January and has yet to receive a notice of default. Several other homeowners interviewed had similar concerns.
"We have a couple of clients where we're just like, 'Wow, how long are you going to let them live rent-free?'" said John Woodall, a real estate agent who specializes in short sales, a process by which banks agree to sell the home for less than the mortgage amount.
Short sales are notoriously tricky transactions that can take months of negotiations, during which banks will often suspend foreclosure action.
Also, new legislation has extended the amount of time a foreclosure can take by encouraging loan modifications, a process by which banks alter payments to help homeowners avoid foreclosure.
But often, it appears that the delays in foreclosures are simply a result of system overload, analysts said.
"We have found several families, more than a few, who have paperwork that says the house is foreclosed, but the bank is still working with them" on a loan modification, said Gabe Del Rio, director of homeownership at Community HousingWorks, a San Diego nonprofit. "All the while, the family is still in the home."
A different breed of advice
A delay in the foreclosure process has raised the prospect of analysts encouraging homeowners to stop paying their mortgages.
Several counselors are starting to offer that advice to homeowners who are "upside down," meaning that they owe more than the value of their home, said Nathan Moeder, a principal with The London Group, a San Diego real estate firm.
Whether homeowners are actually heeding the advice to intentionally enter foreclosure is unclear, but that sort of counsel is certainly gaining prevalence.
"Foreclosure is the right thing" for everybody who is struggling to make the house payment, Su said.
Other organizations, such as Del Rio's Community HousingWorks, advise homeowners to try and stay in the house by working toward a loan modification that makes payments affordable.
As government agencies and major lenders press programs that keep homeowners out of foreclosure, the number of homeowners not paying their bills has shot up. Nationally, the number of delinquent homeowners ---- those who are at least 60 days late ---- has gone up each month, reaching a new high at 1.9 million in July, according to data from the Hope Now Alliance, a coalition of major banks and government agencies.
Though no statistics exist on how many homeowners have not paid their mortgages, still reside in their homes and have not received notices of default, the association's statistics show plenty of unresolved delinquencies.
From the third quarter of last year through the first quarter of 2008, about 455,000 homeowners in California became delinquent on their mortgages. Allowing time for a notice of default to be filed, there have been 413,000 foreclosure starts or loan modifications from the third quarter through the second quarter of this year. That leaves 37,000 California homeowners who are delinquent but have not received a foreclosure notice or loan modification.
"Most alarming is the fact that, in spite of all these programs that are trying to save or stop the process, more and more people are not paying. The question is, are these programs encouraging people to not pay?" Su said.
In times of high foreclosure numbers, it is common to see the foreclosure process drag, he said. During the last housing recession of the early 1990s, Su said one homeowner lived in a home without paying the mortgage for seven years as the banks tried to figure out who actually owned the mortgage.
More to come
Further, California has not yet completely worked through payment increases on many of the exotic loan products that some analysts say are a major contributor to foreclosures, according to data from First American CoreLogic, a mortgage data company based in Santa Ana.
Over the next year, about 150,000 subprime mortgages across the state, reserved for riskier borrowers, are going to see payments increase.
That has raised concern among local analysts and economists that the region's foreclosure problem will get worse before it gets better ---- potentially dragging down further an economy many believe is already in recession.
Contact staff writer Zach Fox at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 5412, or zfox@californian.com. Read his blog, "On the Realside," at nctimes.com/blogs/minding_your_business.
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Bill wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:38 PM:Sounds like there has never been a better time to stop paying your mortgage!
Susan wrote on Aug 31, 2008 9:39 PM:I stopped paying my mortgage in January. But that's because I paid off the house with that last payment.
Mike wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:16 PM:This is a great article to motivate someone "just thinking" about walking away from their mortgage to see how long they get to stand before the walking.
Bill wrote on Sep 1, 2008 6:35 AM:“Some homeowners in the area have gone months without paying their mortgages and have yet to receive a foreclosure notice...”
my bet is that with many of those, nobody even knows who the noteholder is anymore. And many of those banks who actually do own the property (forget being swamped) actually don’t even know they own it!
Bill wrote on Sep 1, 2008 6:44 AM:a good strategy might be for the buyer’s cousin, errr, I mean “total stranger”, to enter the property, change the utilities to his name, pay the property taxes for 5 years and see if the bank doesn’t foreclose, giving him a shot at adverse possession…
WildomarWatcher wrote on Sep 1, 2008 12:32 PM:This is a great article and delivers several disturbing messages that local and county governments don’t want the public to know about.
The most alarming one is the extended length of time it is going to take communities in Southwest Riverside county to work through this disaster, and what a huge financial impact it is going to have on both property owners and tax revenues needed to support local governments.
Banks and lenders are delaying foreclosures not only because they are overwhelmed, but also because they are actively trying to prevent the foreclosure data from reflecting the true magnitude of the problem.
Local governments should be proactive in passing ordinances that require lender owned properties to be maintained at the lenders’ expense. This would give them the incentive to foreclose promptly and resell the property as quickly as possible.
OCMike wrote on Sep 1, 2008 10:24 PM:And people are starting to call bottom in Corona,Riverside etc?...hmmmm, these so-called experts (Realtors) are going to look like fools again.
OpenMindedRealtor wrote on Sep 1, 2008 10:36 PM:Yes we are brainwashed sheeple, but even a broken clock is right twice a day, haha. Lets see how this plays out. Sooner or later the I.E. will pull down OC much more than we realize. OC can not have a $300k premium...Example: Last OC exit on the 91E at Gypsum 4 Bdrm, 3 Bath, 2500 SqFt goes for minumum $680k, Same house off the First Exit in Corona at Green River is $380k-$400k. OC Realtors can not keep this a secret any longer.
elly wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:52 AM:I have a feeling that you don't know what you are talking about.
This is the most stupid site for housing market.
You forget to mention one thing -THE HOUSING MARKET IS VERY , VERY LOCAL!!!!!!!!!!!
dO NOT COME UP WITH YOUR STUPID SCENARIOS .
wHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE YOU HAVE TO 18 YRS OLD - AT LEAST.
lET EVRYBODY TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECESION.
Give the right info if you want to help - not your opinion.!
Mark in los angeles wrote on Sep 2, 2008 3:46 PM:wells fargo work out department has caused be to fall into forclosure. when I contacted them first, my payments were on time with excellent credit.
JimRT wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:36 AM:To "ELLY". I was not going to respond (being a day late) but I just had to.
This is not a forum for the well informed or those in the know. This is as the heading implies for "comments", that would be what, and how, people feel and their opinions neither of which must be rooted in fact. So if you are looking for some great loop hole or some other tidbit of folklore that may help you keep your house (I assume that is why you are so upset with the lack "right info") then you are looking in the wrong place.
This is for opinions and as we, all know “opinions are like (pick your favorite part of anatomy and place here), everybody has one”.
why wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:19 AM:sounds like this article promotes irresponsibilty....kinda like " oh well what me worry ?? "
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