ESCONDIDO: Immigration, future of downtown highlight candidates forum

Council race features two incumbents, four challengers

By DAVID GARRICK - Staff Writer | Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:01 PM PDT

ESCONDIDO ---- The future of downtown Escondido, coping with illegal immigration and whether the current City Council is dysfunctional were among the hot topics at a Tuesday morning candidates forum for Escondido City Council.

Challengers Olga Diaz and Richard Barron attacked incumbents Ed Gallo and Sam Abed for promising $18 million to a downtown hotel developer, not helping local small businesses enough and pursuing an overnight parking ordinance that has been criticized as racist.

In response, Gallo and Abed touted the city's robust economic development in recent years and some sharp reductions in crime. They also said the downtown hotel will be an economic catalyst, and that the parking ordinance is a necessary response to multiple Latino families sharing single-family homes in central Escondido.

Dennis French, a third challenger for the two council seats up for grabs Nov. 4, focused less on specific council actions or policies. Instead, he attacked the council for creating a climate of "animosity" and for failing to provide enough "family-friendly activities."

A fourth challenger, Chuck Voelker, did not participate in the 90-minute forum at Escondido Country Club. Nearly 60 people attended the forum, which was sponsored by the Escondido Chamber of Commerce and moderated by local auto dealer Angelo Damante.

The tone of the forum was mostly amicable, but Diaz and Abed criticized each other specifically a few times.

Diaz complained that Abed often throws out numbers that can't be verified when making policy arguments. And when Diaz said a slow-growth initiative passed in 1998 had helped the city avoid "a couple catastrophes," Abed deliberately echoed her wording when he declared that the initiative "brought catastrophe to Escondido in economic terms."

Another contentious issue was a recent council decision to force organizers of community events, such as the Jaycees Christmas Parade and Fourth of July fireworks, to pay thousands of dollars for security provided by city police officers.

Gallo and Abed said the move was necessary to close a large budget deficit and to make sure the city recovers the costs of any special services it provides.

But Diaz and Barron disagreed. Diaz said it made no sense to "nickel and dime community organizers" and that cuts should have been found elsewhere in the budget. Barron said parades and other civic events improve local quality-of-life and attract new residents to the city, so the city should provide security for free.

The tone of the forum became more contentious when Damante asked the candidates about the proposed overnight parking ordinance, which the City Council will discuss Wednesday at 7 p.m.

Barron said the ordinance would be an example of the council treating the symptoms of illegal immigration instead of the actual problem.

Diaz said the ordinance, which would require permits to park between 2 and 5 a.m. in a 7-square-mile zone in central Escondido, would unnecessarily punish many people to cope with a relatively small overcrowding problem.

She also suggested city officials should delay adopting the ordinance until they analyze water bills to determine how many homes were being shared by multiple families.

But Abed and Gallo said complaints from residents and data provided by local schools show that the overcrowding problem is severe. Gallo also said the parking ordinance is a continuation of an unsuccessful city effort in 2006 to prohibit landlords from renting to illegal immigrants.

"We tried the rental ban, but that didn't work," said Gallo. "Now we're trying the parking ordinance, and that will work."

During the forum, each challenger criticized the council for damaging the city's reputation with controversial legislation, bickering and abrasiveness.

But Abed and Gallo painted a different picture.

"We have a very cohesive City Council that works well together," he said.

Several more forums will be held this fall, the candidates said.

Contact staff writer David Garrick at (760) 740-5468 or dgarrick@nctimes.com.

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no backing down wrote on Sep 9, 2008 5:19 PM:The cities image was damaged, and reeling in the illegal alien problem will solve it.
Credit for trying goes to Abed and Gallo, at least they are working for US citizens rights, and not delusional illegal's who somehow got the notion they have every right true US citizens have earned.

LAughing wrote on Sep 9, 2008 5:36 PM:Go ABED!!!!

Dennis French???
No way! No how! Bad move for Escondido.

Maya wrote on Sep 9, 2008 5:57 PM:Olga you are an asset to Escondido and I am glad that you are running for city council. I have heard many good things about you. I trust you will change things for the better because we need change.

Oakhill Dave wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:03 PM:Once again, candidates like Diaz and Barron have blinders on. Come on over to the Oakhill neighborhood and see how many cars are parked in yards and how many homes have five, six, seven or more cars parked outside of them!! The neighborhood has gone in a downward spiral the last few years because landlords are looking the other way and allowing multiple families in a single family house. This taxes our cities' infrastructure - our schools - and just isn't right! RULES ARE RULES! Laws are laws! Quit pulling the race card - - these laws apply to all people! Even on my cul-de-sac - - there is now a single family house - with four families living in it - because the owner has allowed this group to rent here. There are always 6-7 vehicles (or more)parked in the driveway and on the street in front of this house - an obvious indication of multiple families living there. The vehicles play their loud music and disturb this quiet cul-de-sac. The yard looks like crap.
VOTE GALLO AND ABED for a safe Escondido and a city that plays by the rules!!

Just wonder wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:22 PM:if Bill Flores, who is against deporting criminal illegal alien, is on Olga's campaign committee as he was on her last campaign. If he is, that would explain her stance on illegals in this town.

council of zitizens wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:29 PM:Just the thought of Ogre on the city council is frightening.

Taxpayer wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:29 PM:The only thing of interest in this election is defeating the high school bond measure. That one will hit us hard where it hurts.

Vote No on T!

Vote out everyone who supports it!

insane wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:31 PM:That is how you try to fix the problem???? with a parking ordinance??? Hahahahaha epic fail. And by the way who will be issued parking permits and who won't.

Its a proven fact wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:37 PM:that Diaz cannot work in harmony with the city council. She has gotten before the council and in her words called them "not nice people". She should take an anger management class also with her outbursts.

If Flores is wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:43 PM:working for Olga, this will be the kiss of death for her election.

If wrote on Sep 9, 2008 7:08 PM:Olga is elected mark my word, Flores will run for city council and that is scary.

Olga who wrote on Sep 9, 2008 7:16 PM:Olga Diaz got smoked last time she tried to play with the city council. Olga, you are way out of your league and you know it. You finished something like dead last in the voting last election. Keep wasting your money on a lost cause Diaz, you will never be on top, not in our country. You want to fight for illegals, go to Mexico, you might have a chance there. Abed and Gallo are heros in Escondido, there fighting for the true, legal citizens

coping with illegal immigration wrote on Sep 9, 2008 7:24 PM:How was illegal immigration addressed?
Parking ordinances are to address parking problems. Rental restrictions are to regulate rental agreements.
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS ENFORCED BY ASKING FOR PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP AND DEPORTING THOSE WHO DO NOT PRODUCE AUTHENTIC PROOF.

Olga Diaz I dont think so wrote on Sep 9, 2008 7:36 PM:Will only represent the Hispanic community. Not that they don't need representation too. But a representative MUST, SHALL and has a duty to represent ALL its people equally.
I don't know how she thinks she can win this election, illegals can not vote.

Olga Diaz has an agenda. I can not vote for someone that wants to better only part of a community. This is not democracy. If you can't represent equally then your are automatically not qualified.

Olga go back to your coffee shop. I suggest the decaffeinated stuff for you girl.

ELECT OLGA wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:07 PM:The city council has ruined our city. We need a person with a back bone and common sense. I am voting for Olga and I hope you do too. I admire her for standing up for what's right and for not bowing down to Abed and Gallo who in the pockets of special interest folks and developers.

Stop pulling the race card wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:09 PM:Just because Olga has a Spanish surname does not mean she will only represent hispanics. Look who she is married to? C'mon, your pitting race against race will not work. The fact that she is a young and intelligent woman who really wants to change Escondido and make it a better place to live should not be a threat, you should welcome her decision to run for office. Don't dismiss her simply because she is not afraid to speak her mind and just because she has a Spanish surname.

special wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:42 PM:french is new blood to the arena.. you should give him the chance.. He has good input

ok Jokes over wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:58 PM:Do you really think that the parking ordinance is a good idea??? If you are planning to do this... be prepared on waisting more taxpayers money...yeah that sounds like a good plan right??? ok jokes over.. right???? or should we hire another researcher to figure that out too?

Frida wrote on Sep 9, 2008 10:30 PM:City Council meeting is tomorrow at 7pm. Folks need to speak up and let the council know how irresponsible this parking ordinance would be. They probably don't care what we Escondido residents think, but they still need to see how much we oppose their actions. Tomorrow at 7pm.

No Respect wrote on Sep 9, 2008 10:34 PM:Not mentioned in the article was how Olga Diaz interrupted Abed several times during his time to speak. Nobody interrupted Diaz when she was speaking. Diaz is intelligent, but we can't afford to have someone who doesn't respect people with differing opinions. Her tirade at a recent city council meeting against Council Member Marie Waldron was apalling. If Diaz is that way with someone who is currently on the city council, how do you think you will be treated when you, as a mere citizen, disagree with her?

They Dont Want to Assimilate wrote on Sep 9, 2008 10:59 PM:I loved Barron's comment... he stated that Escondido is a town that borders Mexico and that if someone has a problem with (illegal) immigrants then they should move somewhere else. Sorry. I don't have a problem with people that come here legally that WANT to become LEGAL Americans and assimilate into an American culture. Barron wants us to "reach out" to (illegal) immigrants. The problem is that they don't want to assimilate with us so no amount of "reaching out" will work.

Ostrich Syndrome wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:14 PM:Diaz mentioned that she has never seen evidence of several families living in a single family residence. She has GOT to be kidding! Gallo pointed out that the Mission Park area of Escondido that hasn't seen any major building in many years needed a new elementary school. Why? Duh? Now you know Olga! It doesn't matter if these people are white, brown, black, yellow or purple,legal or illegal, this is a strain on Escondido's infrastructure. Other people with one family in a single family home are having to take up the slack in property taxes for those with several families in a home. It's a fact! It has nothing to do with racism.

I agree... wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:23 PM:After watching Diaz's performance at the city council meeting, where she went on tirade and pointed her finger at Marie Waldron and told her she was taking her seat, I realized that this is not the kind of person that would work collaboratively with the city council. Her demeanor was that of attacking, rather than professionalism. I feel like she is too emotional about certain topics and forgets to keep her cool. Respect for other's opinions should be a quality that we look for in our public servants. If she truly wants to win a seat on the city council she needs to change her ways, keep her cool, leave the anger outside, and present her opinions in a manner that entices people to listen.

Fed Up wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:16 AM:Racist? Pshaw.

Fact and opinion wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:08 AM:It's A Proven Fact apparently does not know the meaning of the word "fact." The phrase "cannot work with the city council" can't be objectively proven or disproved, only argued convincingly or unconvincingly.

Whatever wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:19 AM:There is NO Way that I would ever vote for ABED or GALLO. They just can't get it right!!

Thanks for the quote Gallo! You have done us all a favor!!! What a GAG!!!

Want To wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:25 AM:Want to Puke everytime I have to look at one of those "advertisements".

Obviously, these two are not suffering from the economic downturn...afterall they got raises and they will continue to give themselves raises (IF we should be so misfortunate).

Vote ABED & GALLO
OUT OF OFFICE in November!!

Enough is Enough!

inland wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:41 AM:We must start with the parking issue, since the rental ban also failed. I don't hear anybody else out there with better idea's??? Instead of complaint, why don't we offer creative idea's to the city council?

Bill wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:29 AM:It's time for all of the legal citizens of this country to step back and ask themselves...WHY ISN'T MY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM???

Then, think about the answer for a few!

If the parking issue is wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:14 AM:what it takes to clean up Escondido from law breaking Illegal Aliens, then I am all for it. It is nice to see where Diaz believes it affects a small portion of Escondido. Is she willing to move into my neighborhood for one year? I doubt it, as usual with politicans all talk no action.

Citizens of Chamber wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:06 AM:We at the Citizens of Chamber (all four of us) support the current city council and are impressed with the way Sam Abed and Ed Gallo are handling their jobs. Stay classy Escondido.

Great Forum. wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:38 AM:Oh my, she struck a nerve huh? Seems to me she made the most articulate points. Ed told the same joke several times, and Sam waved around notes as if flashing them to the crowd made him a stronger candidate. I see a new start for Escondido on the horizon. Barron presented well too. French was endearing. Nice job Chamber - can you add a second date, maybe an evening forum so more people can attend?

Buster wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:47 AM:"We tried the rental ban, but that didn't work," said Gallo. "Now we're trying the parking ordinance, and that will work." Got news for you Ed, if you and Sam vote to mail out 50,000 free overnight parking permits as your staff suggests and think that will solve the overcrowding problem attributed to 11,000 cars the Walker Study counted parked on the street at night, you guys are delusional. If you think voting to increase parking in front yards is a way to save traditional neighborhoods and stop overcrowding you guys are trying to create an illusion. We aren't so dumb. No parking in yards, user paid for parking permits issued only after an application verifying need for the additional parking is justified is the only way to go. We, your supporters, are watching very closely.

Vader wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:52 AM:The sounds you just heard were Gallo putting his foot in his mouth & the ACLU racing to Escondido to file suit.

cents wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:05 AM:Reporter Garrick neglected a very important important idea voiced by all 3 challengers - the idea of inclusion/cooperation in our city, something which is sorely, sorely lacking now.

Also, I would expect complete information from sources other than the candidates on dates, times, locations and sponsors of upcoming debates. The turnout at the Chamber's forum was light.

All you folks who are worked up about immigrants should address at least half of your energies at the LANDLORDS who PROFIT from ghetto rentals. Since of course you are only seeking win-win solutions for our town, you'd agree that the landlords are at least half of the problem.

Before ONE more law hits Escondido's books about "overcrowding," the Council should clearly demonstrate to the public that existing laws (like zoning and building codes) are either a)useless and therefore on the chopping block or b) effective and therefore the focus for a defined period of time, after which Council should clearly report on costs and results to the voters of Escondido.

Fiscal conservatives and lovers of the law of the land, walk your talk.

Karl wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:07 AM:Want To @ 1:25 AM:

Do you even know what the salary of our council members is? It's certainly not enough to live on. people running for council do not do it for the money.

Bravo to Olga wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:08 AM:For speaking out and standing up against a City Council that is clearly biased and removed from who their actual constituency is. Yes, Escondido has a high percentage of Latinos but Latino does not always equal illegal, and Olga does not claim to represent either group. I believe she represents fairness and equality for all human beings. We need people to stand up and challenge the status quo, don't give up Olga! If City Council doesn't want to "deal" with ethnic populations and low income then they should go run for office in Rancho Bernardo or Carlsbad. Escondido is what it is, let's make the best of it and at least try and communicate in an honest and open way that does not put the blame on ethnic groups.

Re-elect the Council of Members wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:09 AM:Who better to get the city dragged into court! Who better to ruin the reputation of the city? Who better to give your tax dollars to developers? Vote for the Chamber of Members!

Equal Representation wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:28 AM:Why are there no Latinos or Latinas on the City Council? Our community would be well served to have the government be a true cross section of our society.

PS. Haters, don't bother flaming about illegals, ICE, checkpoints or political double speak about their candidate's last name, or intolerant incumbent's worthiness. I simply want to know where the representation is required to address and solve the problems...

whole city wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:53 AM:Hey, Downtown is great (well, it has great potential), and of course Abed toots the East Valley Parkway horn, but who has what vision for ALL of Escondido? All of it geographically and all of it in terms of all its people? Median incomes and people per square foot are 2 hot topics, but candidates, tell me a story I want to be part of. The way you do or don't express a vision for the entire City of Escondido speaks volumes about how you will vote on the details. Global warming, unprecedented national debt (thanks, W.), state budget gridlock, ballot box budgeting....how do YOU think Escondido fits into this picture? How would YOU as a City Council Member unify more of Escondido's potential into concrete progress - as measured internally and throughout the county? In this regard, I think the incumbents have a spotty enough record to stand on equal footing with the challengers - no free rides, Ed and Sam. Well, I'm waiting!

I want an answer wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:56 AM:from those running for City Council. Why is it when we AMERICANS demand our laws be obey, we are labeled racist? And what do you propose to do to solve this problem?

To Equal Representation wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:00 AM:If you are talking about illegal's having equal political power in this country, we the legal residents of this country, WILL NOT PERMIT IT.
The only rights you have are to be treated humanely until you are deported, period.

Olga wasnt interrupting... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:18 AM:she was challenging mis-statements made by Councilmember Abed. Sam likes to talk alot about numbers and figures and no one ever holds him accountable. At the forum he misrepresented how driver's license checkpoints are funded; Olga corrected him. The checkpoints are paid for by the city not the state. Sam was wrong and Olga told him so. On another occasion Sam repeated his often stated sound bite about "10% return on investment" on the city's 19 million dollar give away (aka: hotel) and Olga gave him a lesson in basic accounting princibles. By the way, all you critics: this is politics. It's designed to be adversial. That's how the creme rises to the top. You call it rude but admit it. What really bothers you is "an outsider" who happens to be a woman with a name that threatens you in a way you can't even bring yourself to admit is able to out perform you're good old boy incumbents. Olga: You're clearly overpowering the guys and they're feeling picked on. Go easy on them: say "excuse me" next time.

to Stop pulling the race card wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:33 AM:what is Olga's married name and why don't she use it?

How to get Sued... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:10 AM:If you want to stop overcrowding because it detracts from the quality of life for the community, I'm all for that. However, this is now on the record:

"Gallo also said the parking ordinance is a continuation of an unsuccessful city effort in 2006 to prohibit landlords from renting to illegal immigrants.

"We tried the rental ban, but that didn't work," said Gallo. "Now we're trying the parking ordinance, and that will work.""

The ACLU will (successfully) argue that the parking ban is aimed at (perhaps illegal) Latino residents, based on the past words and actions of the council. The city will end up losing in court and paying the ACLU's legal fees.

Don't these council members realize that they have a large public paper trail that can and will be used against them?

They should have just initially focused on improving an overcrowded city by using occupancy and parking restrictions when warranted. Citizenship and immigration status should NEVER have been discussed in the first place. But it's too late now...

Mr.ED wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:36 AM:Why is Olga's last name such a big deal?

Abed ~ foreign name ~ Lebanese
Gallo ~ foreign name ~ Italian
Diaz ~ foreign name ~ Latin
Barron ~ foreign name ~ English


If it were Smith you last name freaks would have nothing to blog about.Are you profiling by given surnames?Shame on you that's racist.Think about your own last name...are you a pure bred or a mutt?
Get over it you bullies!
Vote Nov 2008
Do something you can feel good about.
Clean house at City Hall.
GAG is comming

To To Equal Representation wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:48 AM:The blogger never mentioned illegals, they mentioned Latinos. I guess they're all illegal to you huh?

Law and Order wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:05 PM:I believe that everyone is missing something here. I would really like to take a look at the Oath of Office Escondido or, for that matter, all California elected Officials take when they enter their elected office. I would also like to take a look at the Oath that all members of Law Enforcement take when first putting on the Uniform and the Badge. I believe there is something in there regarding upholding and enforcing the laws of the land. I've never seen anything stating they will only uphold and enforce selected local laws/ordinances. So, where do these people, including the ACLU, get off saying it is the the responsibility of the Federal Government to enforce Federal Law? Law is Law. Those Laws, be they Federal, State, County or Local City apply equally to all respective residents and citizens. If I am a Citizen of Escondido, it is incumbant on me to obey City, County, State and Federal Law. If I am an ELECTED OFFICAL or Member of Law Enforcement in Escondido, I am bound by an oath to enforce City, County, State and Federal Law/Ordinance.

Someone prove me wrong, please?

Chubton wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:06 PM:I am proud that the current Council uses my tax dollars to experiment and find a solution to over-crowded parking whatever rather than encouraging higher paying jobs.
We should find another sheep/lemming to add to the Council.
It's important to find someone who won't ask too many questions.
Who is the land developers endorsing anyway?

Mr.Potato Head wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:10 PM:TO:
council of zitizens
[-] wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:29 PM:Just the thought of Ogre on the city council is frightening.

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YOUR IGNORANCE IS SHOWING

taxpayer wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:11 PM:Tonight 7 pm City Hall
protest the parking shell game.

Tom wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:15 PM:Two weeks ago U.S. Census Bureau data showed that Escondido is now the poorest city in North County. Diaz and Barron are against programs, like the proposed parking ordinance, that will stem this relentless ghettoization of our town. Don't elect them.

Esco Local wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:34 PM:To me, fixing the Escondido City budget is more important than two families living in the same house. You might argue that extra people are taxing our budget, but they are also contributing via sales tax, property tax (vs. if they rented an apt.), etc.

City Council has run our budget into the ground and ruined our priorities. In this economy, I can't see giving away $18M to a hotel and then shutting down the Christmas Parade.

Gee Dub wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:35 PM:This is easy people. Just say 'NO' to any candidate who is an open-border, illegal alien advocate. Get the straight scoop from each and go from there.

From what I'm reading, Diaz might be suspect on her vision of Escondido and how to deal with the problems, so let her get in front of the citizens find out what her position is. If she uses 'weasel words' and euphemisms when describing her positions on crime, the hordes of illegal aliens, checkpoints, etc., then just don't vote for her.

(My gut feeling is she's soft on illegal immigration, code enforcement, gangs, and crime, but that's just an opinion.)

RockSpringsActivist wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:38 PM:The ACLU had to rope the council in on the rental ban. Now that Gallo has stated the parking ordinance REPLACES the rental ban it will be dejavu all over again. The ACLU will come in again and stop this ridiculous nonsense. When will they ever learn? Vote them out and replace them with clear and forward thinkers - people who won't base their plans and decisions on punitive actions.

Just Say NO wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:50 PM:To O. Diaz. No way, no how.

Marilyn wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:08 PM:To:Tom
I know Olga and she is against wasting millions of tax dollars that this city doesn't have.It's about the many years of unaccountability of this Council.
I would much rather have a highly educated intelligent professional managing my money than anyone on this current council.The mess you see is the proof of mismanagement.
There have been so many lies about this young woman it makes me ashamed of the town I live in.
Olga Diaz has done more than just make coffee.Get to know this woman.Talk with her and listen to her committment to make Escondido a proud community once again.
Wake up Escondido and take advantage of the gift that is before you.
Elect Olga Diaz to the Escondido City Council Nov. 2008

To Esco Local wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:17 PM:What do you mean by two families living in the same house. Try 4 or 5 Who do you thing would believe your gullible statement.

To Marilyn wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:32 PM:You know Olga will tell us anything we want to hear to get elected. Just like any politician. Then when elected she will do what she wants to do. We want anything that will get these illegals out of town and she is not willing to do that. Give credit to our city council. If one thing does not work lets try another. I'm not going to take a chance on Olga.

Little Andy wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:48 PM:Blame PPH.It all PPH Fault.Wasted tax Payers $$$$. Wheres LT.?

inland wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:17 PM:Would not limiting the number of people living in a dwelling (per square foot) due to safety and health issues be reasonable? If they go over a safe limit, then the landlord should be fined or taxed for creating a hazardous environment? That would certainly get everyone's attention and at the same time, bring more revenue into our city.

RockSpringsActivist wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:49 PM:To: inland
What a ridiculous idea. Do you want to hire people to live in those homes/apartments to attest to how many live there . . . as in they report to the city that Mon-Fri Jack and Jane live there; Friday night Larry & Cynthia move in, but move out on Sunday when they go back to their live-in jobs?? If you legislate "liveable humane square footage" are you going to rebuild the prisons to accomodate those in small cells? Get outta here!

Go Escondido wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:53 PM:Its so nasty and dirty allover town that its about time Escondido realizes that there's nothing to show for themselves. The only thing escondido has to show for itself is the criminal activities (gangs) and how dirty it is here. This town needs more authority. We need to take back Escondido and clean this place up. Its the city of hit and runs... Please keep up the good work guys. Hopefully we can live here and be happy instead of dreading the ghetto that escondido has became.

Beth-San Marcos wrote on Sep 10, 2008 3:45 PM:Enough is enough, get over your ethnicity!
It's about the law.It's not about race. Illegal is Against the law. End of story.

We are simply concerned about our communities because most of us pay dearly for it in many other ways in addition to taxes.

Deanna wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:17 PM:And you wonder why the State of California's budget has not passed yet!
100,000 people leave this state every year, the folks who are making the high end wage, the one's who have been supporting this State, including high end businesses. NOT the one's coming here illegally and TAKING from the State. How can a State run with no money coming in from people who get paid cash under the table, pay no taxes and take and take and take....

Most illegals arrive here already knowing where they will live, usually with a relative. Only the relative owning the house will pay the taxes to the city, right there is a hugh problem.

In order for anything positive to happen in Escondido there needs to be cohesiveness at the city council level and with the Mayor and especially the City Manager. Why is it we never hear bout the City Manager? What is he doing to bring in new business here, does anyone know?

The city needs a set plan, a budget on how the city will pay for this plan. A time limit on when this plan will materialize, and they all need to agree, if they fight amongst themselves it only delays things and becomes petty.

I wouldn't count on bringing in big business to town, as I said, these businesses are actually heading for out of State unless the City Manager can give them a hugh deal, like free land to build on...sort of similar to Wal-Mart. And, that brings even more problems since they don't pay service taxes. (PD/Fire)

We as Americans keep getting distracted by illegals and there lawlessness instead of moving to make a city better in all ways, we have to constantly stop and figure out how we can please the burglar....amazing!

Pancho wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:46 PM:Abed and Gallo are not close to being real heoros. Bad economic times mixed with a long term war in Iraq then lets blame our unhappiness on the poor yet hard working Latinos of today. Six to seven cars per house, those are great economic times, would not you agree with me. Abed and Gallo are basically puppets to a very small number of high class residents of Escondido. Those people usually reside on top of the hills.

Olga wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:58 PM:Did you watch Lou Dobbs today. Please watch it and see what is really going on in America. It's no different in Escondido.

Olga WAS Interrupting.. wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:06 PM:If Olga thinks she is right she will interrupt anyone! She doesn't belong on the council. Our elected officials shouldn't interrupt US!

Marilyn wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:31 PM:TO,
To Marilyn:
"We want anything that will get these illegals out of town and she is not willing to do that. Give credit to our city council. If one thing does not work lets try another. I'm not going to take a chance on Olga."
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Okay so To... you want anything? Well, how about more law suits? You want more taxes to pay for those law suits? You think this city is in bad shape now...wait until it's been sued so many times for the games this council has been playing.-$8.9 MILLION will be a drop in the bucket.The city will be beyond broke.Your home will be worthless.You will be lucky if you can flush your toilet without it backing up on you.It won't be because of illegals.It will be because the city has no money to run/repair/maintain these services.Shall I go on? The current council took you for a ride when Waldron ran...oops...we can't have rental ban...but it's ok the voters fell for it.You re elected that old hack! Now here we are again...another re election game ,the parking ban...oops....that is also not going to fly but you won't get news of that until after the NOV 2008 election...just like before..suckers!
Same old song and dance from the city council & staff.Promise them anything then tell them oops...we over stepped...sorry we can't do that but you re elected us.Just exactly what did the bs over the rental ban get YOU the voter? NOTHING..infact it cost YOU !
This council has NO ...get it NO...authority over immigration.How many Federal Judges need to tell you that? ONE...he said it 2 years ago...it's over.
This election is not about immigration...it's about using immigration to cloud the real issues....
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the LOSS of MILLIONS & MILLIONS by this council.Stop this insanity.
VOTE them OUT!
IF.....any council could do anything about the immigration problems in this country....we would NOT have the problem.IT'S FEDERAL POWER not LOCAL...
thank God this council can't tell me what to do with my uterus!OOOOPS!

NCT screener...edit at will.Thanks,Marilyn

Immigration and overcrowded schools wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:35 PM:The Escondido Union High School District wants a $98 million dollar bond to help alleviate "overcrowding" in the high schools. Gee, I wonder why our schools are "overcrowded"? Now the property owners/taxpayers are expected to pay for it with tax assessments that will extend until the year 2054. Just another way for us to give more freebies to illegals who are sucking us dry. VOTE NO on Prop T!

Open minded wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:54 PM:You bloggers may want to take a look at the Calvin Christian field light story from yesterday. And I thought only the illegal immigration issue could get nasty! And vote yes on Prop T, it looks like those private schools want it their way or no way.

Jack wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:58 PM:It appears that Olga Diaz is for "illegal" immigration. That is why she should not be on the Escondido City Council. You have to uphold the laws of the United States (not Mexico).

Brenda wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:06 PM:Copied from this article...

Gallo and Abed touted the city's robust economic development

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Okay fellas time to admit you both inhaled. Smell the real smells of this city.Robust was two years ago in real estate.NOW,it's a BUST.
Sold anything lately Ed?
The only thing robust is Sam's gas station and it's always dirty.Set the example Sammy clean it up.
Had this council done anything to give this city robust economic stability...they would not have ended 2007 with a -$8.9million dollar deficit. as in DEBT...no money in the til...lower than on empty Sam . Does that help you understand the city is broke? NOT robust...your robust delusions are incredible.
Vote these delusional council men out!
Goodbye Abed Gallo aka GAG

Tom del Norte wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:20 PM:I was a recent visitor to Escondido which I found to be a very nice city, by the way -- not at all the "dump" that some call it. But the city's reputation is, er, rather clouded these days by a city council that has gone overboard trying to reinvent its own population. Can't be done! You can't "dissolve the people and elect another". Escondido will have a different demographic majority in a few years; for the moment there's resistance to that, but if I were living in your fair town I'd hope for harmonious change, not for clashes among people who "look" different. I don't vote in Escondido but if I could I'd go for people who accept the composition of the population as it is and work from there. (And don't tell me about how illegals "simply broke the law"; well, maybe they did, but what would you have done in the same situation? Even conservatives like G.W. Bush recognize that when people are pushed by necessity, they'll migrate by hook or by crook. Blaming the victims is bad politics and will backfire in the end.) I'll return to Escondido with even more pleasure and spend lots of tourist dollars if voters start to sweep that broom. Whoosh!

Dont hide Escondido wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:29 PM:Speaking of the candidate's surname: last I knew, if you have a Spanish or Latin name and you're a woman or a man, you keep that name (which is your father's, to which you can add that of your mother). Common knowledge. And so what? (Y qué?) You can try changing that custom with a city ordinance too, but you'll be dashing madly toward the Dark Ages. Diversity is America, get used to it!

Cotton Ballz wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:48 PM:To Marilyn
[-] wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:32 PM:You know Olga will tell us anything we want to hear to get elected. Just like any politician. Then when elected she will do what she wants to do. We want anything that will get these illegals out of town and she is not willing to do that. Give credit to our city council. If one thing does not work lets try another. I'm not going to take a chance on Olga.

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the above is disgusting ,this is 2008.
And I was lead to believe that this type of ignorance didn't exist anymore in this country.Flashback to the south 1963 when they hid behind bedsheets.2008 Now you hid behind computer screens with fake names.And spew hatred.Olga isnt an illegal.No wonder this town is treated with distain by other communities.Ugly & ignorant is nothing to be proud of.
When you make statements like this,you cannot deny you are a racist.YOU make all Escondidians look bad.Shame on you.
YOU should apologize publically so we all know who you are.
Had your candidates had achieved work of merit of which to stand on you wouldnt be here making personal assaults on Olga.
This is what supports Gallo & Abed?
You just gave me my reason to support Olga and vote for her.
Take out the ignorance and bring in the intelligence.
NOV. 2008 vote DIAZ

Apollinairski wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:48 PM:When I heard Olga Diaz speak, it was not about immigration at all (illegal or otherwise) but about how to improve services in the city and avoid financial boondoggles. She seems to know her stuff. So, sir, who's playing the "race card"? And who's got a one-track mind about immigration? And what's this neurosis over identity all about anyway? Just be Escondidians, that'll be identity enough...

Dave wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:12 PM:The ACLU might indeed hit EcsonMexico with a lawsuit.
However if they are successful remains to be seen.
I for one am willing to put money forth to bolster the coffers of Escondido in their fight for the USA.
I have logged onto the Escondido website before and made a proposal for them to set up a legal defense fund for fighting for our rights to govern our cities without interference from groups intent on the dismemberment of the USA. Anyone else with me in fighting for our country!
Don't roll over and give up, this is too important to ignore anymore.

Mexicat wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:44 PM:Stop calling it mexcondido, it's Escondido you (...)!
The reason why there is a lack of representation is because we are working for a living, I thought about applying for city council but then I thought about all the BS you have to take. Olga's a lib, shes educated and smart, never met her but I hear shes got attitude, and if she only wants to serve one ethnic group than thats wrong. As for Gallo and Abad, I don't trust those guys but they do get the job done. The only sensible person on that council is our Mayor.

Mexicat wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:52 PM:To Tom Del Norte, I agree with what you said. You should run for city council. Like you said, this is a nice city. Who ever says this city looks like TJ, please tell us what part of Escondido looks like TJ, and be specific.

El SeÃor wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:11 PM:With all the bitter and racial comments, it is a surprise any U.S. citizens still live in Escondido. I remember growing up in Escondido before the migrant workers started bringing the entire family. Unfortunately our U.S. government has made it easy to cross the border and come and go as you please. How is this Olga's fault? It is the slumlords in Escondido that should be fined for allowing multiple families to become the norm in Escondido. I love how Gallo and Abed state, "the parking ordinance is a necessary response to multiple Latino families sharing single-family homes in central Escondido." What excellent bait to welcome ACLU back to Escondido. Why not place a moratorium on liquor stores, thrift shops and 99 cent stores. These are type of businesses that our city council should be discouraging if the quality of life is going to improve. Build it and they will come. Anyone but Gallo or Abed. Escondido is desperate for new leadership. But if you can afford it, move to Temecula, Carlsbad, Solana Beach or Encinitas because if the same people are reelected, you are in for another four years of the same rhetoric. I am surprised the cohesive council has not renamed the city to the "Found Valley" or National City of El Norte rather that the Escondido, the hidden valley.

Native E. wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:22 PM:What's interesting is that the Nctimes did not mention that Ms. O. Diaz stated to do away with the checkpoints so the police could provide traffic direction at the christmas parade. Last time I checked Ms. Diaz that is what we pay our police for, to enforce the law not stand at a corner and direct traffic. This is the third time I have posted this, but the Editors won't post this. Why not?

To Mexicat wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:38 PM:Specific "TJ" in Escondido include the Swap Meet, the majority of alley in the Avenues that have a rear-built apartment complex, duplex etc., (between Quince and Juniper, from Felicita to Lincoln). People live in sheds, raise pitbulls and string tarps to have raging fiestas. There is also a tendancy for people to throw their litter where ever they please.

Regarding your no representation explanation, it's a weak answer. It ok to say you're lazy. Regarding Olga, she's actually quite pleasant and friendly to most people. I gather that her charisma and friendliness open doors but her character flaws, motivation to gain power and inability to remain in control have sabotaged her along the way.

We Dont Need An Olga Diaz wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:38 PM:We need a neutral-minded thinker who wants to improve the appearanace, the quality of life, the quality of public schools, the home values, reduce gangs and ILEGAL's standing on street corners. She, and her pro-ILLEGAL stance, WILL NOT bring that to Escondido.
Vote for Sam and Ed.

b wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 PM:Key sentence: "(Olga) Diaz said the ordinance, which would require permits to park between 2 and 5 a.m. in a 7-square-mile zone in central Escondido, would unnecessarily punish many people to cope with a relatively small overcrowding problem."

Wow. Olga's supposed "relatively small overcrowding problem" is much bigger than she knows or cares to admit. Come on over to East Washington Ave., where ALMOST EVERY APARTMENT in my complex houses at least one more person than it should. Many 500 square foot studios, designed to accomodate one person, are occupied by families of four. Additionally, many of the single-family homes in the area are occupied by so many people I can't accurately keep track of them without military-grade surveillance gear.

The overcrowding deteriorates the quality of life in many ways, particularly in the amount of noise generated and the lack of parking. I don't have statistics about the infrastructure, but I imagine water useage and sewer useage are much higher than that for which they are designed. Any reasonable person could spend one week in this neighborhood and realize we actually have a serious overcrowding problem, and it's getting worse throughout Escondido even as I write. Say "no" to Olga!

To Tom del Norte wrote on Sep 11, 2008 1:44 AM:If you like Escondido and the way it is changing, you'll love Tijuana! They only speak English there when they want to separate you from your money. Vote for Olga and you'll get what you want. Viva la raza!

bogie wrote on Sep 11, 2008 6:05 AM:Immigration and overcrowded schools @ 5:35 PM:

You gave me a great idea. We should use school registration forms to figure out which homes are housing more families than they were safely designed to house. With this information we can give the property owner 30 days to evict and fine the crap out of said owner for not safely controlling their property. This in no way can be called racist.

Karl wrote on Sep 11, 2008 6:08 AM:Tom del Norte @ 6:20 PM:

Gw Bush a conservative? That's pretty funny.

new council needed wrote on Sep 11, 2008 6:59 AM:it's incredible how ignorant Sam and Ed look every day and how they made this city looks worse too!!!

Baloney wrote on Sep 11, 2008 5:21 PM:Baloney. Baloney. Baloney.

Ignorance is not bliss people.

The reason the schools are over-crowded is because:

the council has IGNORED the conditions for at least 10 years.

Everytime a NEW housing development (with more than 10 homes) is proposed, the school district is required to provide a "Letter of Service Availability". The district letter states whether or not there is room in the schools to service the new students generated by NEW DEVELOPMENT!

For at least four years, the HS district has supplied the letter to developers/the city and the "service availability" has not been good. Specifically, the letter states (and I quote): "without the mitigation of student housing needs, the District is unable to comply with the Quality of Life Standards approved within the City of Escondido General Plan and is unable to provide school facilities for the students generated by new development".

So, What do you have to say to that?

Will you say: well, the illegals are buying up all the new houses and they are packing them with nine trillion people and they are causing the problem?

Or will you have some sense: and realize that the city and the HS district have been completely aware of the over-crowding - BUT they are such money grubbers that they couldnt resist the pocket change generated by new development.

Hey: we can go head to head with THE FACTS. For instance, would you care to debate where the biggest chunk of money the school district gets "goes to". Can you say EMPLOYEES???

NOW. Just as I predicted: ABED & GALLO are jumping on the School Bond wagon in the sense that it ties into their crazy illegal immigration agenda political platform.

ABED & GALLO should be ashamed to resort to such low ball tactics in order to try to win their seats in Nov.

Well, look at their HERO - Marie Waldron - it worked for her in 2006. After of course she failed in her bid to win a seat in the 74th. And she has a big black mark next to her name for the rental ban disaster...and most likely will have an even bigger black mark next to her name after she votes to approve the parking ordinance (keep listening to Pablo & Jacque - such good thoughtful advice). Hey Marie! Three Strikes and YOU'RE OUT!

As for ABED & GALLO - you two are a DISGRACE to the office you hold!!!

Fool no more wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:09 PM:After seeing this council's performance at last nights council meeting.I will NOT vote for ANY of them at any time ever.
This council has shamed our city.
I will give my support & vote to Olga Diaz.

taxpayer wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:14 PM::::applauding:::
all the people that are seeing thru the
smoke & mirrors of Gallo & Abed.

VOTE NOV 2008
throw out A bed & a jug of gallo
begin the BIG city clean up at City Hall.

Goodbye Abed Gallo
aka ****GAG****

Bah ha ha ha ha wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:36 PM:OMG thats gut busting! Integrity. GAG.

Trusted leadership - about as far as you can throw him.

Proven Track Record - oh, yes...there is definately a track record. Remember this: Median Income decreases - lowest in north county - Escondido income less than Vista.

Decreased Crime - THANKS TO THE EPD - not either of these two jokers!!!

Watch for more news that will just GAG you into nauseum!

Let's party!!

Peace of mind wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:43 PM:I am voting for French...Hey! after all the comments about the runners up. Nobody mentioned anything about French.. What is his nationality??? I gotta ask him when I see him again.

I spoke to French about the parking permit issue, his comment to me was that the city wanted to have a parking ordinance for certain areas. It is proposed that the city would charge and issues parking permits to people in what French called "the Hot Zone" as French tells it the permit would allow homeowners to park withing a 1000 feet from their house. French's comment to me was "this is huge waste of taxpayers money!! The idea behind the purpose for the permits dont match up.. Its a huge waste of money! He said Gallo and Abed want to keep people from parking in front of other peoples homes with this plan. French said, "They didnt even think this through?? giving a permit to park anywhere within the 1000 ft would still allow people to park in the front of other peoples homes and there would be no change.

This city is being syphoned by poeple that DONT use common sense.

ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE ESCONDIDO.. We need to save $$$$$$$$$
Is it me??? or does French think things through unlike a few of the others... He makes sense to me...

MY VOTE IS FOR FRENCH... Others should help this guy..Its nice to have someone with common sense that cares about this city.. Oh yeah!!! BETTER YET>>>
FRENCH IS A REPUBLICAN..

About the Marie.. Sounds like she may be having second thoughts...

I think you should leave olga alone.. Just because shes latina doesnt make her a bad person.. She is trying to do whats best,, She's for seat number 2

Listen up Escondido!!!

The city is talking but the present council with the exception of Daniels and Pfieler, they dont care to listen to the people.. SO HOW ABOUT IT!
DO WE WANT A PEACE OF MIND..

pay them wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:48 PM:yes... GOOD BYE :) ABED and GALLO *** HOW ABOUT FRENCH AND BARREN..??? So many people complain about the OLGA

ABED SAYS wrote on Sep 11, 2008 9:28 PM:Abed says: Conservative leadership counts.

And as he was counting out $18.9 million dollars to an out-of-town hotel developer... he had those words in mind.

Abed - you failed to get Escondido a "fair deal" with the hotel - so your conservative leadership is lacking in one vital factor: conservatism.

You get a "F" on your final grade.

Looks like you will have to take remedial classes. I hear there are some wonderful schools in Germany.

Abed Says wrote on Sep 11, 2008 9:44 PM:Abed says: "He" has made a "safer, cleaner and more prosperous city".

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Oh excuse me, while I LMAO.

Safer: That's why there are bi-monthly check points.

Cleaner: That's why Abed always complains about the over-crowding filthy conditions.

Prosperous: A big shout out for Bev Mo and the 600 new residents over the last four years!!

Thanks but NO THANKS. Had enough of this ego-maniac's idea of "safer, cleaner and more prosperous". Our city is worse off than four years ago.

p.s Abed said that the $9.8 million dollar deficit was a projected estimate - BS. The city cut almost every department and non-profits budget by 7.5% to make up for the approx. $7million dollar short-fall for the 08-09 FY...then they found they were over-budget for 07-08 FY and had to take $1.6 million dollars from the reserve. So..."Mr. Abed"...the city DOES have a $9.8 million dollar deficit - no matter how you want to slice it. Can you say "goodbye Christmas Parade" and will you apologize to your "constituents".

It's not too late to change your mind...you haven't checked any boxes yet - do yourself a favor....vote for anyone but Abed (or Gallo) - if you must vote Republican then vote for Dennis French - He's a GOOD GUY!!! And he doesn't have baggage!

peace of mind wrote on Sep 11, 2008 9:51 PM:I agree ABED SAYS...I dont understand how they can waste SOOOO much of our money and make a plan to not only waste more TAX money but to then charge us for it too... If we have a problem with full homes lets get the state involved and quite the nonsense..

pay them wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:11 PM:Even if French is republican.. We cant hold that against him. I am a democrat and I am voting for him. He seems to be very new to politics and it would be nice to see an honest face and hear a sincere voice for a change..I hear he has a huge family so its obvious why some of his focus is regarding family..Anamosity in Escondido?? Did he pay tax dollars to figure that out?? There's not doubt that we do and it nice to hear someone saying that.. That is the first step of healing the city. There is an add about him in SDUT.. CHeck it out.. This guy is a person that really cares and doesnt seem turn away from anyone that needs help..Even from other areas it seems.. Wonderful!!! YEAH French... Isn't this the guy that running Escondido High School during the fire storm ?? He was so sweet and was helping everyone.

Im for French republican or not..

today wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:12 PM:re french;; do you mean the others have baggage??? just kidden

Concerned city dweller wrote on Sep 12, 2008 10:44 AM:Enforce the laws that are on the books! Number of parking spaces, number of people in a house/apartment, DUI checkpoints... Remember who the citizens of Escondido are. Who supports the tax base by shopping our local merchants? I love my hometown of Escondido and parts of it do need fixing whether inhabited by purple or green people. It really doesn't matter - give a hand up, help a neighbor out. How about some community involvement? I respect and follow the laws of my city, county, and country. Just as I respect the laws when I'm visiting a foreign country whether it be Mexico, England or Italy. It's not too much to ask of anyone. Thank you PD for keeping our roads safe from folks without proper licenses, for coming to our assistance when we need, for keeping our town safe. By the way...who does the EPD support for the council?

januaryM wrote on Sep 12, 2008 2:41 PM:To Concerned city dweller
What you must know is that the Escondido Police will not support one of their own's spouses for office .This is why...Should Olga become a councilwoman when it comes time to vote on the issue of a raise/benefits for the Police she must excuse herself from the vote.That is the law since she is married to an officer of the EPD.
So when you ask who will the EPD support make sure you know who they legally cannot support to keep within the law.I would like to see the EPD support none of the candidates.The public thinks if the police/firemen support them they must be good.NOT SO..just ask a Cop that isnt in uniform.
At that time he is allowed to give his honest opinion.
If I was on the EPD.I'd vote Olga Diaz
and keep it to myslef. GO OLGA! GO EPD!

bryan wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:09 PM:Escondidos biggest problems:
1) illegals everywhere
2) 5 families living in single family residence
3) crime and gangs
4) escondido swap meet

trey wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:17 PM:Did i just read an Olga supporter say, "we need change"?. Oh my god. what does that mean? change for the better or change for worse. Does that mean free homes for all illegals, Does it mean no more license checks. Does it mean 10 families in each home. Look at obama hes dropping like a lead balloon. ITs kind of like when busby was caught saying, "you dont have to be legal to vote or work for my campaing".

Hey Trey wrote on Sep 14, 2008 12:07 AM:A wee bit paranoid, don't you think.

Try thinking outside the box, for a moment.

Just because someone is saying "hang 'em high" doesn't mean they are saying "let 'em roam free".

It must be really, really tough living in a black and white world. There is no other options in your boxed world.

Should we presume that your are a hard-core republican?

hey trey wrote on Sep 14, 2008 11:25 PM:I dont recall the hang em high comment.We do have an overpopulated area of indocumented or illegal immagrants.. It is unfortunate but a fact.. WE BORDER MEXICO>>> is this new to some of you??? Its going to happen and we need to find a way to get the govt involved.. ideas anyone other than the obvious???

concerned wrote on Sep 14, 2008 11:27 PM:what about that french guy? Does he have connections to police or any ?

How Much Money wrote on Sep 18, 2008 3:32 PM:Wow. Abed & Gallo must be sitting pretty high on the finance ladder!

I mean who could afford to have cheesy "re-elect me" flashing, blinking, vibrating "campaign signs" on the website for like two weeks?

Wow. Who is paying for these very cheesy ads? That's alot of $$$$.

If the intent of these ads is to annoy to viewers into stomach aches, it is succeeding! I feel sick to my stomach!!

Finally wrote on Sep 18, 2008 8:49 PM:Finally! An ad I can appreciate!!

I love Richard Barron's campaign ad at the top of the page!!

Richa