Beth-San Marcos wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:53 PM:This general plan update should not be done at this time! Global Warming is a hoax and a waste of precious time and resources that will surely drive our economy down further. Let's face reality for once and get back to basics. Many of us in the private sector are struggling while the public sector continues to recklessly spend money like there is no tomorrow!

Herb wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:34 AM:Now I see how it works. I thought we elected people to the city council who were smart enough to up date a slow growth plan themselves. Boy! was I ever wrong! Instead what we got is a group of people who need to hire consultants, and spend money before the up coming election, to quickly update the master plan in a manner that will please special interest developers and Realtors. It would seem that they think that when the people speak in favor of a slow growth plan that it can be said the plan has all ready been up-dated - no need to redo it. All those members of the City Council whose names will appear on the ballot in the next election should spend some time updating their resumes.
I should have been a consultant on City development plans and growth. I have already told them to wait until after the election to see which way the citizens vote of the Slow Growth Plan. Once the people have spoken, and they know which way to go, then if they are so dumb that they still need consultants they can shame themselves and let the people know what it will cost.
Boy, those consultants make a lot of money off the city of San Marcos. Perhaps they would like to run for a city office. No - the money is to good where they are.

A Preponderance of Evidence wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:08 AM:The actions described in this article evidence the fact that the Neighborhood Protection Initiative is a badly needed citizen mandate.

We witness one Council person validate that it is needing to be done post haste while others continue to walk the "flip-flop" fence. Staff then also validates that the San Marcos Plan would need to be done next year anyway in order to conform to new State global warming parameters. So why wasn't even one dollar being set aside for this being planned? Perhaps the answer is...to get the dirty work like Palomar Station and the bloated aspects of the Creek Project passed the easy way? I think so. What a weaselly out for the supposed representatives of the People to fake deep thought and then rubber stamp approve a couple of MASSIVE upcoming developments under the "just trust us" Plan amendment approach....exactly like the disgusting Palomar Station vote. What the Council Four majority chooses goes no matter what. This then allows the same developer regulars to possess the legal argument that they already have an approval....a foot in the door and their foot on the City's neck...all at the behest of this traitorous Council.

The Mayor says passing the Initiative will bring lawsuits. Impossible if they're conforming to the Plan sir. Other cities that have this same exact Initiative in place for years have had NONE!
But...what if developers want to have their way AFTER your majority provide them the legal bullets with a project approval?

To me, last night's action really underscores that the Initiative is the precisely right thing for San Marcos...mandating the involvement of the people on these grossly bloated exceptions to the established General Plan. You don't need all the pieces of the puzzle in order to make out what the picture is....what is going on under the Desmond administration.
I WILL VOTE YES ON PROP O!

Update badly needed wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:00 PM:I am surprised this plan is so out of date. CSUSM and SEH not in the plan! You got to be kidding me. I am glad we have strong leaders in the council that do not hesitate to make hard decisions.

Thanks to Chris Orlando for taking a strong stance on something that should have been decided 5 meetings ago.

BTW, Vote no on NO GROWTH initiative this November.

-SM Resident

City Budget wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:43 PM:Why is the city has millions to give developers for their dream creek project, but can't come up with money in the budget to update out general plan?

Amazing..... why don't they just get their developer cronies to pay for it instead of spending money trying to stop people from voting on their bad project proposals. Turning San Marcos into a slum city instead of following the general plan. Leave the problems to the next generation. I don't want my grandchildren paying for the mistakes of San Marcos.

I'm voting YES on PROP O. I encourage everyone to do the same. We all deserve the right to vote when it comes to protecting our property rights!

Eli wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:49 PM:The only reason this council wants to revise the general plan is because they don't want to follow it. Since they've gotten into office they've REFUSED to follow it and it doesn't matter whatt we say, they don't listen they just do whatever they want with their developer pals. Now they're mouthing off every chance they get about that voter initiative to make them follow the general plan.There's nothing wrong with the plan, it allows tons of growth or San Marcos wouldn't be the fastest growing city in San Diego County. I didn't move here to live in an inner city community. Has anybody driven down Las Posas Road lately? 20 minutes to get from Mission to Grand! What happens when they put that smart-growth condo thing there? Now they're building a hotel right there next to the on off ramps? These guys don't have a clue and when people try to tell them they don't listen and just get angry at the people and treat them like they're idiots unless they agree with them. I'm going to vote for that initiative just because they keep telling us how bad it is. With all the foreclosures in San Marcos I don't want to be selling my house competing with thousands of cheap condos the city built just so they could make money on the taxes.

TRAFFIC TRAFFIC TRAFFIC wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:15 PM:Creek Project=120,000,000 cars per day on our streets. The University/Twin Oaks mystery giant development, bigger than the Creek=another 140,000,000 cars per day on our streets? You can't drive Las Posas now it's so crowded all day- Palomar Station =8,000 more cars per day on Las Posas. The City's hotel project on Las Posas=another 3,000 cars per day on Las Posas. Fenton Project in Discovery=another 85,000 cars per day on our streets. VOTE YES ON PROP "O" because when these greedy developers and politicians are done changing the General Plan to allow all these projects the only hope residents will have is to vote down the new urban General Plan using PROP "O". PROP "O" is the citizens insurance policy against corrupt local government.