CHARGERS: 'This is not fun': Bolts back to searching for answers after loss to Dolphins
By MIKE SULLIVAN - Staff Writer | ∞
Miami Dolphins linebacker Matt Roth stops Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers in the fourth quarter Sunday. Photo by J. Pat Carter - Associated Press. MIAMI ---- In the corridor beneath Dolphin Stadium, there are signs indicating the whereabouts of "Dark Room 1" and "Dark Room 2." Oddly, the Chargers walked past both locations and continued into a different room to shower and dress after Sunday's game.
One of the dark rooms would have been a more apt place to dwell in their disappointment because the Chargers were in the dark all afternoon in terms of how to deal with the Miami Dolphins, the worst team in the NFL just last season.
The label of laughingstock will no longer be associated with the Dolphins after they slapped a 17-10 loss on the Chargers before an announced crowd of 65,063. Miami (2-2) accumulated nearly twice as many yards and controlled the ball for nearly 37 minutes against a team regularly mentioned as one of the NFL's best.
But perhaps that tag should be removed, too. The Chargers (2-3) didn't look like an elite team in losing to the Dolphins, who ran roughshod over New England two weeks earlier in their most recent game.
"They beat two teams that were supposed to be two of the better teams in the conference," quarterback Philip Rivers said. "Whether that's the case still remains to be seen.
"It's certainly tough. Not that we didn't think that the Dolphins were capable, but this is one week that we expected to win. It was obvious they expected to win the way they came out and played. They whipped us."
Left tackle Marcus McNeill and tight end Antonio Gates both said the Dolphins were much more intense when the game began.
"Coach (Norv Turner) said it great ---- they came out like it was a playoff game," McNeill said.
Said Gates: "You can't take a win for granted. You can't take a team for granted. We don't play them every year and we played a team that wanted to win a football game, and it showed."
The Dolphins held the Chargers to 202 yards while piling up 390 of their own. Second-quarter touchdowns by Ronnie Brown (125 yards rushing) and former Charger Greg Camarillo (six receptions) gave Miami a 17-3 halftime lead.
The defeat left the Chargers two games behind Denver in the AFC West race. The Broncos defeated Tampa Bay on Sunday.
Think 2-3 is dismal? If not for a superb final quarter against Oakland seven days earlier, the Chargers would be sitting at 1-4.
"This is not fun," said running back LaDainian Tomlinson, who rushed for just 35 yards. "This is not the kind of football we want to play. We're inconsistent and we need to find some consistency with our football team."
The Chargers have been consistent in starting slow, and they kept that streak intact Sunday. Of course, they failed to ramp things up in the second half this time.
Despite the lethargy, the Chargers had a chance to tie the game on the first play of the fourth quarter. But a fourth-and-goal run by Tomlinson off the left side from the 1-yard line went nowhere, as several Dolphins ---- most noticeably Vonnie Holliday and Channing Crowder ---- stuffed the play and kept the score at 17-10.
"You have to have confidence to run that play," McNeill said. "Our coach had confidence to run that play, and we let him down. That's on us.
"When you have fourth-and-goal like that, you have to be wanting to punch it in."
Miami certainly wanted things more all afternoon. The Dolphins answered Nate Kaeding's 34-yard first-quarter field goal with a 47-yarder by Dan Carpenter.
Then Chad Pennington (22-of-29, 228 yards) found Camarillo, who beat cornerback Quentin Jammer, on a 17-yard scoring pass to give Miami a 10-3 lead with 5:25 left in the first half.
The Chargers gave the ball back to the Dolphins just 64 seconds later, and Miami drove 79 yards in 11 plays, capped by Brown's 5-yard touchdown run to make it 17-3.
The Chargers cut the deficit in half when Rivers hit Chris Chambers on a 17-yard scoring pass with 3:13 left.
Chargers rookie Jacob Hester forced and recovered a fumble on the ensuing kickoff, but it was all for naught when Tomlinson was stuffed at the goal line.
The Chargers had the ball just two more times ---- twice giving the ball back to the Dolphins after four plays. The latter time occurred after they took over with 7:33 left and Rivers alerted the offense to the dire circumstances.
"We talked in the huddle and said ... 'This (is) it right here. We may not get another great opportunity, so we've got to go right now and score,' " Rivers said. "We didn't do it and we didn't get it back."
The Dolphins took over at their own 15 and killed the final 5:55 of the game with a 14-play, 60-yard drive that included four third-down conversions and ended with two kneel-downs by Pennington.
"We just have to play better and execute better," Rivers said. "Individuals, all of us, have got to step it up and play better. Collectively, we have got to go out there and get it done."
Contact staff writer Mike Sullivan at (760) 739-6645 or msullivan@nctimes.com.
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Chargers Stink wrote on Oct 5, 2008 4:01 PM:Chargers are legends in thier own minds. Just like another San Diego Team, San Diego Padres. Padres suppose to win division, Chargers Super Bowl both big time losers.
Kevin wrote on Oct 5, 2008 4:37 PM:"They lined up as we expected, and they ran where we expected." That's not a good sign.
Theotis wrote on Oct 5, 2008 6:02 PM:UPSET? UPSET? This was NOT an upset! Just a return of the Chargers of old. The San Diego tradition lives on!
Jimbo wrote on Oct 5, 2008 6:08 PM:Chargers lose again. Hopefully, they can win 1 of the next 3 before the bye week....will end up 3-5 at the break. Miami has Sparano and Parcells...and we got AJ and Norv....pathetic.
Brett wrote on Oct 5, 2008 6:13 PM:Tomlinson is done.......How is the burner doing???HAHAHA
paul wrote on Oct 5, 2008 6:55 PM:Even the announcers said when Ronnie Brown lined up to receive the ball that he was going to run with it and not pass. Yet the Chargers couldn't key on him and stop him. Great defense Cottrell.
RAIDERMANN wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:24 PM:I guess the CHOKERS thought that "TUNA" was Dolphin safe. That was 1 of my all time favorite games. Besides the 94 S.B. Wow Burnnig Turrner had a great game. What was the washed up lt's yardage 30 something. Spends to much time makeing T.V. ads< when he dose'nt even need the money. Rivers looks like Rivers! Norv playing like Norv. We'll that should shut the CHOKER fans up for a week. But wait were going to S.B this year. NEWS FLASH , NOT GOING TO HAPPEN..
I just wonder wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:31 PM:who they are going to blame for this loss....Oh I guess it must be the Bronco's fault...Chargers stink
To be more optimistic wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:35 PM:When does Spring Training start? Can't wait to see how the Pads improve next year. Nowhere to go but up. Chargers? Going going gone.
Toilet Duck wrote on Oct 5, 2008 9:37 PM:Oh yeah!
You Charger fans that talked about rubbing a SB win in your rivals faces look really stupid right now.
Same old Chargers!
This team will NEVER win a SB.
Super Bowl?
Chargers?
BBBBWAAAHHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAHHHAAA!!!!
This team stinks and they have now been officially NORVED!!!!
Just like everyone said they would.
AJ Smith is a joke!
Chargers Suck wrote on Oct 5, 2008 9:47 PM:Haha so much for a superbowl. . . . chargers are so weak and thats great how everyone is jumping off the bandwagon.
BoltBacker65 wrote on Oct 5, 2008 10:57 PM:I still stand by the Bolts. However, it's sickening to see this talented organization be run into shambles with Norv directing it.
This game was winnable but the desire was missing. Where was that stepped up pass rush from last week? Or maybe Miami's better than everyone thought...I think so.
Sit LT out and leave the driving to Sproles and Tolbert. Be more creative Norv. Everyone seems to know what you're going to do next.
Hart stopped off in Stupid Town before the game. He blew that coverage and got flagged on 3 and 9 when the Fish were deep near their own end zone (after SD's failed 4th goal try).
Funny how former Chargers traded or cut seem to come back and bite us in the A$$? Seems fitting that the Bolts management got what they deserve for letting talent go. Or are they correctly evaluating what they have? Time for an investigation!!
The way the Chargers are being coached now as to when you know who was head coach (14-2) and Wade ran the D, it's like the keys to the Lexus were given to Hillbillys to go four wheelin' in Ocotillo or Glamis.
Yup the Tuna knows his stuff. San Diego could never or would never get a guy like him. He knows talent and can build successful winners. Guess the Fish have our number and that's that.
Go Bolts!
Jack wrote on Oct 6, 2008 3:43 AM:What does this mean for a new stadium? Let's put it in Borrego Springs!
Ric in Delaware wrote on Oct 6, 2008 4:22 AM:HEY AJ
I AM THE FIRST ONE ON THE AJ BANDWAGON WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR ABILITY TO JUDGE TALENT,MAKE PLAYER ACQUISITIONS DURING THE OFF SEASON,AND DURING THE SEASON. YOUR ABILITY TO LOCK UP THE CORE PLAYERS FOR YEARS HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.YOU ARE WITH OUT A DOUBT ONE OF THE TOP GM's IN THE LEAGUE.BUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTT WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR EVALUATION OF COACHING TALENT AND WHAT TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO LLLEEEEEAAAAADDDDDD A TEAM YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CLLLLUUUUUEEEEELLLLEEESSS. TO PUT IT MILDLY ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS TEAM, ITS THE COACHING AJ,THATS IT CASE CLOSED NO ROOM FOR DEBATE, ITS THE COACHING. YOUR EGO HAS GOTTEN IN THE WAY OF YOUR ABILITY TO JUDGE COACHING TALENT . YOU WANT A YES MAN AS A COACH,SOMEONE WHO WHO WONT STAND TOE TO TOE WITH YOU AND DISAGREE. OH AND LETS NOT FORGET YOUR WONDERFUL CHOICE AS A DEFENSIVE CO-ORDINATOR, TED "LETS PLAY BEND BUT DONT BREAK DON'T BE AGRESSIVE 'COTTRELL. DON'T TELL ME HE WAS NORV'S PICK BECAUSE YOU WANTED MARTY TO PICK HIM UP WHEN HE WAS STILL HERE AND WOULDN'T. YOU NOW HAVE A SUPER TALENTED DEFENSE THAT IS RANKED DEAD LAST IN THE NFL IN PASS DEFENSE, AND 30TH OVERALL, GREAT PICK AJ. HE WAS SUCH A HOT COMMODITY HE WASN'T EVEN COACHING WHEN YOU BROUGHT HIM IN. AND YOUR HEAD COACHING PICK IS OVER HIS HEAD TRYING TO LEAD THIS TEAM.JERRY RICE HAS SAID FROM THE DAY NORV TURNER WAS HIRED HE IS NOT A HEAD COACH, WHEN RICE WAS ASKED ON A RADIO INTERVIEW HOW IS NORV IN MEETINGS JERRY RICE THE GREATEST RECEIVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME[NOT SOME SECOND TEAM BENCHWARMER] SAID AND I QUOTE"HE PUT'S YOU TO SLEEP"
GMAN wrote on Oct 6, 2008 6:51 AM:The lack of DESIRE was the key to this loss and DESIRE was the key to Miami's win. Let's take a look at what happened:
The Charger's defense, once again, has been CONSISTENT.....gave up 390+ yards again and again. CONSISTENTLY using zone coverage, CONSISTENTLY not sacking the QB, CONSISTENTLY not keying on BROWN when they ran the Wildcat formation..unbelievable! DESIRE.......very pathetic!
Now the offense: Unbelievable that Rivers overthrew a wide open Vincent Jackson (he had his DB beat by 10 YARDS!) tHIS WOULD HAVE BEEN an easy TD.
Sure miss CAM CAMERON AS OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. The play calling was horrendous. I bet Cam would have called a bootleg, or at least a play action (on the 4th and goal) instead of running LT up the middle. Don't ypu think the Miami D was keying on LT? Easy call to make.
Management, especially Smith letting Turner go to Atlanta. He would have been the Charger's best back this year.
Solution: Kick the players in the rear to motivate them. One on one pass defense. Blitz more..what have you got to loose? Move RIVERA TO DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR and can Cotrell. Bring back Cam Cameron as Offensive coordinator.
Finally, pray for a miracle..the bolts are facing the Patriots next week.
Ridicurous wrote on Oct 6, 2008 7:11 AM:There were so many shots of LaDanian Tomlinson sitting on the bench that I half-expected it to be lined with EasyTurf.
Gene wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:32 AM:To Jimbo...That is like all your Charger fans, talking about how the Chargers are going to win the next three games. Take one game at a time, Pats and Chargers will be a good game and I believe it will be Pats to win, not by much but they will get the job done.
Gene wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:36 AM:Time to put away those Charger Flags and Jerseys back in the closet LOL.
SDBroncoFan wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:42 AM:I don't know guys its the fifth game of the season. I wouldn't say that they are finished just yet. They have a remarkable knack for finishing strong. Even though they just got beat by a team they had no business losing to I think they will be alright. This was my thought last week when the Broncos lost to the Chiefs. When all the Bolt fans were clowning the Broncos. Doesn't feel good does it. I could clown but I'll take the higher road. Heres to hoping that the end of season game means something.
SDBroncoFan wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:49 AM:GMAN
[-] wrote on Oct 6, 2008 6:51 AM:The lack of DESIRE was the key to this loss and DESIRE was the key to Miami's win.
Bro its' time to stop making excuses that they came out with no desire. I said it before they should catch (hopefully) a little fire but if they have no desire by the fifth game of the season why are they playing the game anymore. Call it as it is...the Bolts got beat not because they lacked desire but because Miami was the better team.
NorCal Charger wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:09 AM:I know most of you blame Norval for the loss, but it was the D side that lost us the game. Teddy has to go. Fins played this type of "O" 2 weeks prior against the Pats..so TC had 2 weeks to prepare for this and obviously he did not. LT used to jump over the top on goal line plays..yesterday he ran with his head down. I am a huge fan of LT, but it looks like his heart is not into playing football. Clinton " I wish I had a" Hart is terrible. Can't tackle, can't cover anyone and makes dumb plays (penalties) when he is out there. Time for a change. Can one man make that much a of a difference ( Merriman)? I guess so..time for TC to go along with Hart..LT we love you, but it may be tiem to play ball and stop shooting commercials..Go Bolts!
The apple doesnt fall far from the tree wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:09 AM:As stated before, I stand by my judgment as a loyal Chargers fan - stop thinking about the Superbowl and win game by game. The Dolphins' convincing win against New England should have put something in our players' head; obviously it was running a country club style offense with no discipline.....Sparano is a pupil of Parcells, a disciplinarian - and it works. Just like "Marty-ball" - it pays off in a couple of years when the players mature and see the strategy involved in winning a game.
Talent? Stop reading the AP headlines and watch some other teams with "less talent" play ball, and couple that with the fact that EVERY COACH IN THE NFL knows this talent! It's called adjustments! How many of the past Superbowl teams had a GREAT lineup of players? Denver is clearly winning the AFC West, and well deserved, albeit the loss to Kansas City. The NFC for the first time in a while is looking ridiculously good, in particular the NFC East. Bandwagon fans need to watch the draft and stop expecting so much and understand the importance and role of a head coach, and staff....Then this makes clear sense.
BoltLady wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:48 AM:How soon we all forget...
Chargers were 2-3 at the same time last year and look where we ended up. It was a great season! We may not have made it to the SB but we sure got close. I'm still a fan and always will be. All you people who jump off the bandwagon should go somewhere else. Maybe you can go to Oakland with Raidermann!
chargers fan wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:24 AM:I have to laugh at all you raider fans who came by to run some smack. I understand why you feel you have to point out our shortcomings, it makes you feel better about your "team". News flash, even though the Chargers looked bad yesterday, the Raiders are still in the AFCW cellar. So enjoy our loss while you can. We still have time to right the ship. You can look forward tot he draft. enjoy.
Send them packing wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:45 AM:Let them go to LA. Just make sure they take the ownership with them. Another season in the tank because of poor coaching, premadonna stars and the lack of money spending owners.
Gina wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:48 AM:TO RAIDERMANN: I look forward to your comments every week! YOU RULE!!!!!!! All the Choker fans at my work didn't have a THING to day this morning! HAHAHAHAHAH! Long live Silver and Black!
Toilet Duck wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:57 AM:Raider and Bronco fans recognize that the worm is turning and its showing up in stats before wins.
Last year, the Chargers had a coaching transition that created problems but this year they simply flat out dont look anything like the team Marty left. Jamaal Williams looks old and was consistently pushed around. Thats a big part of the defenses problems and so is the play of the ILBs. The safeties arent that good either. So far, Weddell stinks.
But it starts up front and the Chargers arent that good in the trenches on either side of the ball.
You asked for change when Marty was 86'd and now you got what you wished for. Lots of rival fans told you all this when Norv was hired.
The team is taking on Norvs personality.
Thats not good for Charger fans but its what is happening whether you want to admit it or not.
The Raiders may have had this coaching riff but they are far from being the mess they were 2 years ago and are loaded with young talent.
But you cant put yourself up there with the elite teams anymore so talking about the Raiders that way makes you look silly when youre not that much better than they are anymore.
Youre not going to the SB this year and youve got holes everywhere not to mention aging players.
The window closed already but Charger fans wont admit it.
Umm.. wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:19 PM:Aw come on.. they're doing their part too. Without them loosing, the other team can't win. Without wins there is no Superbowl.. and without that the NFL gets no loot. So the Chargers are helping, really.
Go Chargers! Go!!! All the way to Chula Vista! Next stop, Tijuana!
RAIDERMANN wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:22 PM:we'll thats all the chokers fans got. Like you sorry Choker fans say to us RAIDER fans, We beat you the last few times. the Dolphins have now beat the Chokers for the last 23yrs. That' a bigger picture then 10 times. Just maybe thats what the Chokers look at stupid stats like that! Gina love you too! I see that S.D. CHOKERS WILL BE @ LT'S for a BOWL chunky meatless soup, Because they have "NO BALLS". I would rather have been beaten 10 times, then not have won a SUPER BOWL!!! Matbe you can get Seau back! I see him out, when I'm surfing in front of his house.
Al wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:33 PM:Go Steelers is all I can say.
TURNNER BREEZE wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:35 PM:It sure is nice to see Jr. got his ring with a real team. Turrner running all over the place and scoring "TD'S" Unlike someone we have playing for us. Mr.Drew Breeze has 2 times the yds passing 5 times the amount of TD'S that Rivers has. I think that maybe the "D" should search Merramann's locker for some of that HGH, Because they just looked so bad yesterday. I can see the future for the Chargers moving to Stockton where Sponnos owns 60% of the city. Then what we left with, Raidermann running his mouth more about are sorry loyalty to a team that has made are hair gray! Jimbo
Huh wrote on Oct 6, 2008 1:21 PM:Jimbo, what ring did Jr get ?
James wrote on Oct 6, 2008 2:10 PM:Raidermann, get your facts straight. The Chargers whooped up on the Dolphins on their way to the Superbowl in 94 and have beat them several time since. You just worry about your sorry coachless Raiders as they get smoked by the Saints and thereby ending any hope of a winning season. Must be tragic to have Jim Mora say, "Playoffs? Playoffs?" about your team every year by the 5th week.
It's a long season...guess what? they were 2-3 last year and Toilet Duck said they were out of it then. The time will come when you'll have top eat it again like you did last year
To all the raider fans wrote on Oct 6, 2008 3:06 PM:I am sorry what has the raider done. All of your raider fans that say the chargers suck did they not beat raiders last week and 10 times in a row. Where was the raidermann last week when the raiders choked the game away.
PAL52 wrote on Oct 6, 2008 3:14 PM:Gotta keep it real, James. The Chargers have lost to Miami every time they've played them since the Super Bowl year playoffs. Miami knocked them out of the playoffs in 2005, in fact. Raidermann's wrong about the whole history of course, but he's got nothing else to talk about with his sorry franchise collapsing -- again.
Bill wrote on Oct 6, 2008 3:38 PM:"Coach (Norv Turner) said it great ---- they came out like it was a playoff game," McNeill said.
Yeah...so did the chargers!
Marty wrote on Oct 6, 2008 3:47 PM:Oh yes, 2-3 last year and look where we ended up.
LOSING, that's where!!
What is it about you people that you don't understand. If you don't win the last game of the season, you didn't do as well as you could have!
I'm chargers fan and a padres fan, but I'm bigger fan of winning!!!
If I just wanted to smell fresh cut grass and get ripped off for a meal and a beer, I'd break out my lawnmower, then head on down to this high priced, stale fish sushi place on the corner!
James wrote on Oct 6, 2008 4:14 PM:Marty's logic is ridiculous...I guess you like never winning a playoff game under Marty...I guess you like Marty playing to lose against the Jets and having a rookie kicker kick a 41 yard field goal in the rain when he could've been aggressive getting it down to a 30 or so. I guess you like Marty going for it on 4th and 11 and then making a massive bonehead challenge against the Pats and getting kicked out of the playoffs early without a win.
"OH Yeah, bring back Marty"...PLAYING TO LOSE NEVER GETS OLD!
Skinny wrote on Oct 6, 2008 4:25 PM:While the world turns to "Poo-Poo Undies" all NCT can put on the front page is a story about the local loosers.
Gee, couldn't the editor get a really hot story from Temecula, Menifee, Lake Elsinore?
You guys and gals on the night desk need to work a bit harder!
Joy wrote on Oct 6, 2008 5:53 PM:Is what I feel when I hear Bolt Haters cry about our team. You guy spend much time griping about us. That raider fan went away last week, now she comes to hurl insults. What a CHA-CHA! Can't wait to beat the Haters again in SAN DIEGO. GO CHARGERS!
Joe wrote on Oct 6, 2008 6:12 PM:The raider fans at my work who lost the bet have to wear a new official Merriman jersey every friday to work.I love those losing raiders. Next time we beat-em those fools will have to wear them on Sundays too.
Loyal wrote on Oct 6, 2008 6:17 PM:Win,lose, Chargers For life!!! Gina, it's okay to be mad still for losing to us again.
RL wrote on Oct 6, 2008 7:32 PM:AJ bring Marty back. We may not win the Super Bowl but at least the most talented team in the league will show up for games. Damn San Diego GMs first Bochy, then Marty are we being sabotaged?
Boltbacker56 wrote on Oct 6, 2008 7:51 PM:The CHOKERS are going down just like obmama "hussain". I dont like to say it but its just the way it is! Face it S.D. our team really sucks. Thier no better then the Padreas.
James wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:40 PM:Hey look Jimbo,
Brees just lost a home game and sits at 2-3. Were it not for Bush they would've got blown out. "Oh, yeah he's soooo much better than Rivers"...GO RIVERS!
Keep talking Boltbacker56 we'll all be collecting when the Chargers hit the playoffs again...Please jump off the bandwagon!
Toilet Duck wrote on Oct 7, 2008 12:40 AM:The worst team for the last 40 years is reclaiming its crown.
7-9 this season.
Gringo wrote on Oct 7, 2008 6:56 AM:His time has passed with the Chargers. 3 yards? Release him NOW! Even Palomar Pomerado is ready to trade him. All of the coverage and attention he has gotten during his healthy years has inflated his ego to epic size. No doubting his numbers in the past but seriously, he's no Walter Peyton. Sweetness would never have given the lame excuses for losing like the ones we've heard lately in the media.
Jack wrote on Oct 7, 2008 12:20 PM:That performance would have to go down as one of the worst ever for the Bolts,there was no EFFORT to Blitz ,Catch or Run the ball.Players looked half asleep and whats up with LT?
Where has his drive and hunger to win gone? Bad play call on 4th and goal to put us ahead -why give the ball to LT EVERY G"damed time ?? NOrv was a prolific loser in Miami and still is and Cotrell ? Inspire this team someone!
WE wer supposed to be going Superbowl this year and finish it off.Some one needs to teach Jammer and Crartie to stick to their oponenets like a glove and just simply get a hand in there.Simple-instaed they are always hunting for the pick and always get beat.There is NO HEART in this team.
Jimbo wrote on Oct 7, 2008 6:10 PM:Rivers is playing poorly in everyone's eyes except those, like James, who live in Fantasyland...re-hashing Rivers' good 'ol days in Divsion II college football.
This team needs either a spark or a kick in the butt. Parcells would cut someone after a bad game like last week. Do either that or bench Rivers if he plays another poor quarter.
Toilet Duck wrote on Oct 7, 2008 9:43 PM:Youre getting Norved!
Once the season ends, you will be a bad football team with Norv Turner as your coach.
Hows that feel Bolt fans?
Maybe now all that silly super bowl smack will cease.
Were finding out this team doesnt have the talent we were told that they had.
James wrote on Oct 8, 2008 1:40 PM:And yet another uninformed opinion from Jimbo. Really, playing poorly Jimbo. I guess a quarterback rating that stands at number three in the league...yeah that's really awful...Dude get your facts straight. Last time I checked NC State is a division I team. I should expect nothing less from a fact-less NEVER WAS...How many suns are in your world there JImbo.
I like the way Toilet Duck never speaks of his team...Must be a Lion Fan...Come out of the closet Toilet Duck.
Jimbo wrote on Oct 8, 2008 5:53 PM:Rivers season QB rating is overinflated. How about the last two games?..against two teams that a Brees led Chargers would easily wipe out.
It's a fools paradise James....enjoy yourself.
Toilet Duck wrote on Oct 9, 2008 12:05 PM:Im a Raider fan!!!!!
I dont talk about it because theres nothing to talk about this year.
But why are Charger fans still talking like they are an elite team when they are OBVIOUSLY not?
Neither team is going anywhere this year.
However, youre getting old and the Raiders are young. You arent going to get that SB win to rub in my face. Nothing else matters as we all learned in 2002 that if you dont win the SB, youre just another loser. I learned that from Charger fans who now want to change the rules and brag about beating a division rival in a year when neither went anywhere. The story here is how the team many thought would be going to the SB stinks as bad as anyone.
The Raiders now have a statistically superior defense and that couldnt be said the past 5 years.
Thats the first step to reclaiming our dominance.
Stay tuned!
The SD Super Bowl dream is over so now they want to talk about meaningless division games.
Oh well, they need something to cheer about so knock yourself out.
No SB win to rub in our faces.
But since the past ( 5 years) is now in play, lets talk about ther past 45 years.
See?
You talk about the past too but you want to pinch it off at 5 years.
I wonder why?
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