Murrieta Mom wrote on Oct 14, 2008 7:54 PM:Just what we need the endorsements of those who will gain the most from their stooges. This is the fox guarding the hen house mentality.This only reinforces the reasons not to vote for these two candidates.Tax dollars awarded to city employees departments for their support!Only fools will be fooled by this scheme. DO NOT VOTE FOR INCUMBENTS OR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS

To Murrieta Mom wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:26 PM:The Murrieta Fire Department is actually a fire protection district. The city council serves as its governing board. What that meams is that the $40 a year you pay, pays for the fire and paramedic service they provide. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT GET ANY MONEY FROM THE CITY GENERAL FUND! We are lucky to get there services for only $40 as Rancho Cucamonga residents pay $140 for the same thing. Now as for the Police department they are city paid but you can't skimp on them, they protect us from becoming a crap hole city like Perris or something. You really need to get educated as to what these fine men and woman do for us. I say that because your postings clearly show you have no idea what they do for us.

Camden wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:42 PM:At least somebody in this town is smart enough not to endorse Enochs.

No to Lane wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:01 AM:As a property owner in Downtown, I wouldn't vote for Lane. Take a look around Old Town Murrieta, which by the was orginally anything on the west side of the freeway...which got shrunk to the square between Jefferson Kalimia Ivy and Washington...then durring his reign, it was only inplemented Washington Ave.
Durring the Planning Commissioners reign "the plan" was obviously overlooked by the new strip mall next to the police department which, that area was not to have strip malls. The "craftsmans, commercial venecular, and barn" architecture of the plan was obviously overlooked as welll.
Plus he's was quoted in this paper saying something about how he wanted the reform of the Old Town plan to be finalized as soon as possible....Why??? so he could take office and not have any unfinished bussiness. Why should the plan have to suffer so that he can take office. Where's his priority of the work he's started?
At 39 he seems like he's in an awfull hurry to get somewhere?

Someone want to step up and explain this!

Tom wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:43 AM:It is good that some recognition is being given to those who "understand how economics affect crime rates". From years of personal observation of politics in Murrieta, including attendance at numerous planning commission and council meetings, I believe Mr. McAllister and Mr. Lane have both demonstrated a high degree of attention to promoting the economic health of Murrieta. In today's economic climate, there can be no greater priority for us as citizens than to elect those who will take strong steps to enhance our city's bottom line.

Ill step up wrote on Oct 15, 2008 11:41 AM:The "Downtown" plan you speak of was not started by Mr. Lane. The plan, or the lack thereof, was started under the leadership of Mr. Enochs. It has taken over 10 years and still is not done properly. I agree with RANDON LANE, get it done already. After 12 years as a Coucilman, Warnie has not completed things that he started. Time to give someone else a chance.

RANDON LANE gets my vote!

Oh Stop.... wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:44 PM:That downtown plan was only revisited lately...in the last two years. It had to be revisited because planning (and the commissioner) was finding it hard to get any development downtown. It had nothing to do with Warnie...like him or not.

or Lack there of... wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:49 PM:The plan, before it was revisited, won gold medal awards upon it's completion years ago!

Too bad the planning commission wasn't following "the plan."

Hmmm, what sort of kick backs did Verizon give the city when they did the big FIOS campaign? Mr. Verizon worker.

Tom wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:58 PM:I just want to say "thanks" to "step up" for pointing out some facts from long ago that most people in Murrieta were not around to see. I was around from the early days of cityhood, and I've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly in Murrieta politics. From what you said in your post, I'd say you've been around for a while, too. Most members of the current council have helped stabilize a city that was once in crisis. Councilman McAllister has been a very strong force in that stabilization. As a result, he has my full support. I don't know as much yet about Mr. Lane, but from what I've seen so far I think he would be another positive addition to the mix. I'm looking forward to informative input from other citizens as the election nears.

to Lacky wrote on Oct 15, 2008 3:58 PM:The lack of execution had a lot to do with your hero. From early days on, he was a slug in the soup. Did you ever hear him try to run a council meeting when he was "Mr. Mayor"? Do you have a clue of how that general level of competence from the top affected the city image and attitude at the time? Wadda pitiful joke it was to behold. A whole city humiliated by one clueless fellow, who had to take continuous cues from staff and other council members on even the most basic rules of order. And this, after he had sat grunting in his council chair for years. And as to your knocking of the electronic infrastructure in Murrieta, I can only say it figures you would try to cast a major plus in a negative light. But, that may be the only light you have to offer, so we'll just shine you on.

To Step Up and Tom wrote on Oct 15, 2008 4:05 PM:Step up was correct in saying that the plan was not started by Lane.

Tom...I can't seem to place you...you see I remember the committee of staff and residents that completed the orginal plan...and there wasn't a TOM in the group.

Face the facts the plan wasn't being followed by our planning commissioner in the light of the revisit of the plan.

And "thanks" to 'Lack' for noticing our hardwork, and its achievment awards on the plan made durring the first few years after the formation of the city.

Bull Friday and Poncherello wrote on Oct 15, 2008 4:28 PM:"Lane received endorsements because he went on ride-alongs". SERIOUSLY? Is this all that it takes to earn the endorsements of the FFA & POA?

Tom wrote on Oct 15, 2008 4:37 PM:Not sure how you assumed so much about my post, 405. I made no reference to being part of any such committee, nor to any claim Lane started the plan in question, and I see no point in your resorting to shadow boxing to support whatever point it is you're trying to make. If all you're doing is saying you were part of the planning, you could have just said so. Kudos to you. But back to the actual discussion: The support, direct or indirect depending on how you look at it, by a certain council member is more pertainent to the overall subject of the upcoming election. What are your views on that?

Got my vote wrote on Oct 15, 2008 5:07 PM:As a 6 year resident of Murrieta, i just recently had the opportunity to meet one on one with Mr. Lane. How you ask? He knocked on my door asking for my support during this election. We talked for a good 15 minutes about his platform and his feedback regarding development since he has sat on the planning commission. I did my own research regarding what Mr. Lane had to say and I whole heartedly believe he is here to serve us. Furthermore he is a more direct representation of who Murreita resident are. He has a family that he is raising so that alone tells me he has a vested interest in what goes on in this city especially regarding future development and most importantly crime. He is the only candidate that has come to knock on my door to discuss his campaign one on one, and not only that i have his cell phone number, and he encouraged me to call him if i had any further questions. He obviously has nothing to hide and speaks from the heart. Now knowing that he his endorsed by our fine men and women from the Fire department and Police Department that just solidified who the other candidate i will be voting for.... McAllister.

Got it right wrote on Oct 15, 2008 5:12 PM:Sorry, Ms. Disgruntled MM, but the police and fire associations got this one right. Re-electing McAllister and replacing Enochs with Lane would be a prudent move which would create an even more balanced council with at least four people who can wade through complicated issues and create consensus on how to move forward. It would also help insulate the city from further bad press if Mr. Enochs' pending trial doesn't go his way. If Mr. Enochs truly wanted to do what was best for Murrieta, as he always says, then he would not have chosen to run . . . again and again and again. Elect the best and the brightest and Murrieta will shine once again.

Lets look at Cal Fire wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:53 PM:Instead of paying these firefighters and paramedics to sit in their stations and have local ambulance companies take care of our sick and injured lets complete the step and privitize the paramedics and contract with Cal Fire for fire protection like Temecula? It has saved them a bundle and they provide much better service than our overpaid sleepers. Obviously the firefighters aere not happy with their high pay and goddies we provide them becuase they are going our and endorsing cronnies!

Cal Fire Seriously wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:52 PM:Cal Fire? The "Wal-Mart" of Fire Protection? Are you serious??? What a joke!!! You have no idea what you are talking about! As a resident of Temecula for 12 years, I can tell you what your so-called cheaper protection gets you...a fire department that hires known felons and allows them into your homes is just a start! I wish I had time to educate you on what a horrible mistake Temecula is making and how many lives it has cost between Cal Fire's incompetent employees and AMR's lack of Temecula ambulance coverage! Way to "save" Temecula! We get what we pay for!

To Tom wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:25 PM:You seem like a reasonable level minded person. However, be aware! This makes you a target to the Warnie supporters. Pretty soon, it will be alleged you are evil and on the take. Meanwhile, Warnie will cruise the neighborhood in his Ferrari. Yes, the good old boy Councilman really owns a Ferrari!

No Way wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:27 PM:Cal Fire is not bad, they came to my house and helped me when I had a fire in the kitchen and were very helpfull. I have seen them around town and I want to say THANK YOU CAL FIRE!!! You have done a great job for our city! As for Murrieta they could learn something from the firefighters here. WAL-Mart they are not.

Lazy wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:32 PM:These firefighters in Murrieta are LAZY. We pay them well, give them nice fire trucks and all they do is complain and fund politicians to do their bidding. It is not good enough that the city hires a company to provide the ambulance and be the paramedics in Murrieta! Maybe it is time to look for protection elsewhere, I am tired of seeing them at the store, park or coffee shop! What are we paying for? Latte's and steak dinners if you ask me!

Watchdog wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:33 PM:To: Lets Look At Cal Fire, Unfortunatley the city has already in past times looked into the feasability of contracting our fire protection. Fortunately it did not make financial sense too. Why? Because the City's fire department is a special district. This means no money comes out of the city's general fund. If the city were to contract out fire protection services to Cal Fire or anyone for that matter, the funding mechanisms that special districts are tied to would go away. What would this mean? Approximatley $8 million would then have to come out of the city's general fund. Therefore the city would have to absorb the cost whereas right now the city coffers pay NOTHING. If you are a citizen of Murrieta "Lets look at Cal Fire," please go and educate yourself on how your city's budget works and where the money goes before you spout off such elementary remarks full bitterness.

Thank You MFD wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:13 PM:I never really feel compelled to write in these childish blogs till now, but Lazy needs to look at the big picture. I like seeing our firemen out in our wonderful city shopping and patronizing our businesses. Why, because they are spending money in our city by supporting these places which in turn supports the city. By the way how many of you stop by to get a coffee while on a break from work? What makes that any different than our firemen and police officers doing the same? Thank you Murrieta fire and police for supporting local business, and keeping our tax dollars local!

Fat Cat wrote on Oct 16, 2008 12:34 AM:To WatchDog, Murrieta Fire is funded via a special district (fire protection district). Fire Protection Districts (and cities and counties) all across California contract to CAL-FIRE for services. Who drives the fire engine has nothing to do with the funding source. You will however find that the CAL-FIRE union is MUCH worse when it comes to playing political games, and opposing ANY trained citizen involvement (back-up reserves or vol. firefighters) to augment them. Also funny to see complaints about the Firefighters union backing candidates, but nobody complains when the local Teachers Union recruits and funds pro-union candidates for the school board.

RE MFD Being Lazy wrote on Oct 17, 2008 6:56 PM:If your complaining about our firefighters going to the store to get dinner or coffee, how about you try going to work for 24 hours straight without stopping somewhere for food or a drink. And as for contracting out the fire protection to Cal Fire thats crazy. Murrieta Firefighters are required to go through a CA Fire Marshall certified academy, most of which are 12 weeks or longer in duration. CAL fire firefighters attend a 4 WEEK ACADEMY then are assigned to a station. What i'm getting at is Murrieta Fire is better trained to do the job. Also to help you feel better about how much they are paid, think about the fire department as insurance. You pay for it hoping that you don't need it, but if you do need you want the best coverage you can get.