Two Votes for Quality wrote on Oct 14, 2008 10:38 PM:Barron & Diaz have my family's votes!!

You two are doing very well - with you as our new council members, the city will do very well.

Diaz & Barron - Quality Candidates for City Council!

The PPH Forum wrote on Oct 14, 2008 10:50 PM:The real debate was down the street at Palomar Hospital. The highlight was Marcelo Rivera claiming that the new hospital is on time and on budget. What a joke!

oh please wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:34 PM:.../>Reading you comments I feel that you seem to hit a few issues on the head.. You need to look at all.. You have Voelker storybook upbringing and Frenchs claim to what appears to be honesty makes these guys the only 2 people that I feel we can trust.The 2 incumbent appear to be focused more on the past rather than our future..And how many times has Olgas police husband come up. Why is a LATINO needed on the council. I thought the city is loking for someone to work with the people.. Im sure we have a larger population of hispanic -vs- gringo but what is the voting population differences? I would rather vote for someone that has our city's needs first. I think I'm going with the newbees. Good luck boys!

dude wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:47 PM:ive seen an escondido patrol car in temecula a couple times. thats a lot of gas from tax payers

ExperienceNotPromises wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:25 AM:We're voting for Abed and Gallo. They have a proven history of dealing with the city's complex issues. As the report above indicates, all Olga has to offer is promises and a lot of ideas for new spending. In a time of economic crisis we'll take experience, not vague promises of "change". We're 'staying the course'.

NSShirlock wrote on Oct 15, 2008 3:30 AM:Yes, why should we disturb a debate on parks and a hotel that are on hold for the indefinate future to focus on a minor issue such as healthcare and the bogus BB bond taxpayer liabilities? The smugness of Rivera and Basset are beyond the pale. Shouldn't these rightious dignitaries be appointed for life and be immune from the indignity of having to actually run for reelection. And the openness of th forum was complete with M Covert casting his presence on the affair.

Local wrote on Oct 15, 2008 3:50 AM:I would like to extend my thanks to the League of Women Voters for providing this forum for concerned citizens and the apathetic public to assess who we want to guide our future healthcare options. It was a real EYEOPENER! NCT, sorry you missed it. Never mind.........

Yea right wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:07 AM:Diaz is most definitely not a "public safety candidate". She criticizes everything the PD does. She lost my vote.

My 2 Cents wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:07 AM:Response to "oh please" - Honesty is important, but so is capability. I'm voting for honesty and qualifications, which in my mind equals experience.
I agree with you about the fact that Olga's husband keeps popping up in her campaign. Are we voting for him or Olga? And what does being Latino have to do with anything, kind of sounds like discrimination to me. I for one will vote for the most qualified candidate based on qualifications, not nationality. While I'm at it, if Olga thinks Parks are what need the most attention here in Escondido, yikes, she needs to get with the real issues. I'm all about beautification and everything, but there is much more going on in Escondido than that!! Love your coffee shops Olga, but that doesn't make you qualified.

Danny P wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:24 AM:I want to thank Dennis French for coming with me to Oceanside and help to open the evacuation shelter in El Camino High School. we need leaders like you that care for all of us.

April wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:26 AM:Our city parks do not need upgraded at this time, they just need to be maintained and policed! And our flood control channel does not need to be clean up at this time, our city does!! Olga Diaz must not drive around town,the whole town and see right before her eyes our problem. Our city is a hugh eye sore and a mess. Our parks are ruined by vendors selling ice cream and tamales from push carts and hispanic men drinking and being drunk!!! I see it on Saturdays oh and don't forget the dirty diapers!!!
I am shocked that our city council does not go after the issues the normal taxpayer are looking at on a daily basis.
Olga Diaz feels it is a waste of dollars on the check points.....I feel they need more!
Clean up the city is not asking much from a citizen who has lived here 30 years!!!

To Danny P wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:28 AM:Please move to Oceanside.

to the three stooges followers wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:29 AM:Olga is more than qualified to run this city, and Richard is the second best choice.

Danny P wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:34 AM:if they need me there; I'll be there in a heart's bit. like I was with Dennis French helping to run the shelter in Escondido High School in Escondido last year.
come and help Dennis and I to give groceries in Pioneer School every saturday at 5:30.
French is the leaderthat cares!

Citizens of Chamber wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:40 AM:We at the Citizens of Chamber (all four of us) would like to point out that even though Olga's husband is a cop, the police officer's association did not endorse Olga. The cops realize that Olga is not best for this city and she is not the public safety candidate she says that she is. Rather, Olga is just an angry person who is not qualified to be on the city council. Stay classy.

Clueless Lisa wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:46 AM:I support whoever is consistent with my liberal no-growth agenda.

Richard wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:50 AM:Abed is too divisive. He uses racial politics to push his conservative agenda that includes government hand-outs for big business. Its time to stop giving tax payer money to the corporations and businesses. Abed must go!

another reader wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:51 AM:To "to the three stooges followers"
Wow your comment had such substance. From name calling to no back up to your statement. Do you have anything real to say? Tell me, specifically, how is Olga and Richard more than qualified?
I would love to hear your point of view.

Submarine Man wrote on Oct 15, 2008 7:52 AM:I love Sam Abed and Ed Gallo

Karl wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:00 AM:Easy choice, we are going with experience and a will to clean up the city. Abed and Gallo have our votes.

newbie wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:04 AM:Re: APRIL
What she Said!!!

Enough wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:17 AM:Enough of the incumbents! Some posters are touting (just like Abed) the qualifications and capabilities of the council. That's a HUGE LAUGH!!

Let's see: The council has been spending an ungodly amount of money on checkpoints and code sweeps and bad legislation and landscaping and PAY RAISES!!

Before everyone goes "Ape Crazy" consider this:

Noone is saying that occassional checkpoints aren't needed, but Escondido is the ONLY city in SD County to have so many so often. And don't even try to say that Escondido has more illegals than some other cities in SD County!

Noone is saying that code enforcement shouldn't "do their job", BUT "sweeping" your city and holding everyone essentially accountable for the failure of the city to maintain and monitor the city BEFORE it got to be quite bad in SOME areas of the city – is EXCESSIVE!! (For all those that call Escondido those derogatory names, you are doing your city a great disservice BECAUSE there are many many beautiful areas in town and many that are similar to other prized city neighborhoods).

Regarding the "Bad Legislation"...well the incumbents were two of three councilmembers that adopted a Rental Ban ordinance that cost the city a great deal of money and negatively impacted the IMAGE of Escondido!!! Despite all the warnings to not adopt the illegal legislation, Abed & Gallo voted to approve it! Even councilmembers from neighboring cities said they would not follow in the footsteps of Escondido when trying to deal with illegal immigrants. Abed, Gallo & Waldron WERE NOT ADMIRED by their colleagues - nor were the colleagues looking to emulate the actions of Escondido's council "majority". And the kicker is: Abed & Gallo STILL think the legislation was “good government” – check out the NCT videos!

Furthermore, the city as everyone knows has been working on a parking ordinance for more than 1.5 years (2 yrs depending on your view)...WITHOUT A DOUBT the costs to study, write, re-write, study, visit distant cities, write, study, re-write, present, re-write, and around and around and around...(sorry I got dizzy from the nonsense...from the "experience"...from the "qualifications" of our incumbents) - POINT IS: The endless beating to death creation of a parking ordinance is COSTING the city TOO MUCH MONEY - AND it hasn't even been finalized, adopted or implemented! And IT WILL NOT GUARANTEE YOU A SPOT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. PERIOD. PERIOD. PERIOD.

One of the posters tried to say that beautifying the parks is not a priority...Oh Reallly?? Well, then why has the incumbents made that one of their top priorities - check out Centre City - check out the new Kit Carson sign - check out Bear Valley Rd. The incumbents have spent alot of money and city staff time in making the city look pretty - UNFORTUNATELY, the incumbents (+ one Waldron) have also managed to NEARLY RUIN to IMAGE of the City!!! If you don't think so...then ask yourself, Why Does the ERTC sit EMPTY??? (No Hospital excuses will be accepted).

And lastly, PAY RAISES. Yes, that's right! While the incumbents have been part of the pack to put a stranglehold on the city's good residents...penalizing everyone for problems not of our own doing...they (the city) has constantly and consistently increased city service fees, water/wastewater fees, taxes (Prop BB & P) and simultaneously reduced services...THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MANAGED TO GET PAY RAISES!! Not only have they voted to increase their own pay, but they also voted to increase their gas allowance to $9,000/yr EACH! Sweet Deal!

I don't want or need - NOR will I vote for the incumbents Abed & Gallo. The city is better off without their qualifications & experience…the city is feeling the results of their experience as we sit with another deficit!! Enough is enough - they had their chance - Abed did so much damage in four years - it took Gallo eight years to reek as much. ENOUGH OF THE INCUMBENTS!! VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE!

I dont think so wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:24 AM:Abed and Gallo only had divided the city and scared big businesses from coming to Escondido,I'd rather pick somebody who doesn't get money from special interest groups!

Olga Fan wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:25 AM:Just one suggestion..... The city hasn't given the hotel one hot dime yet. It is all still in the bank.

FRENCH THE CANDIDATE THAT CARES wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:29 AM:I LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT; A REAL REPUBLICAN AND NAVY VETERAN.
IT WAS JUST ABOUT TIME TO GET A GOOD CHOICE FOR THIS CITY.

JD wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:30 AM:In the midst of this drastic budget mess in Escondido, do you think its ethically right that police take home thier cars? A large portion of the police live in Riverside County. I think it's very resonable to suspend this program until the economy turns around. This could provide 500k back to the city which may help save a several civillian jobs in the near future.

Lisa wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:31 AM:I see the "usual suspects" are up to their usual tricks. Incredibly mature of you. Why don't you give your paranoia a break!

Have we met? It's funny...because I have NEVER had anyone relay to me (in person) the things that are relayed here. Interesting.

You know...I can't help it if some "folks" are "P.O.'d" because they/you are getting worked by the FACTS!!! Sorry, that some feel that the FACTS are not doing them any favors.

It's o.k. I understand that in order to combat our logical and factual argument it is necessary for folks "like" you to resort to name calling, defamatory statements and antagonism...you have graduated from elementary school behavior to the same behaviors in adulthood. Someone - somewhere is Proud.

It is easy to hide behind your little computer screen and yack your mouths off - but the true test of your conviction is whether you show your face at City Hall! I know some of you do...wink, wink.

The bottom line is: I am not afraid to show my face and state my position...and people like you...well, you will soon be non-existent in my life - you are but a temporary occurance in my life - and I'm not worried about it - go ahead...call me names...call my husband names...and don't identify yourself because it really matters NOT!

Peace Out!

Clayton wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:48 AM:The "to the three stooges" poster serves one purpose. That is to get out the vote for Gallo and Abed. The name-caller's view that a voter should support Olga and Richard defies the facts, logic, civility, and common sense. My family is going to vote for more, much more, of Ed and Sam. A cleaner city with less crime and less overcrowding is exactly what Escondido wants and needs.

To Citzens Poser wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:56 AM:That's Funny. Wow. I guess the "four members" are kind of just like the council majority. Except the citizens group doesn't have the privilege of playing monopoly with an $85 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET. Can you imagine the impacts from the citizen group if they had a $85 Million dollar Budget? It would be incredible! Obviously, this group has gotten under your skin - they must be right!!

To enough wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:03 AM:Regarding your quote concerning an overnight parking ordinance, "AND it hasn't even been finalized, adopted or implemented! And IT WILL NOT GUARANTEE YOU A SPOT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. PERIOD. PERIOD. PERIOD."

You are absolutely wrong. The council simply has to look to another city’s rules for guidance.

The City of San Gabriel’s ordinance provides examples of who qualifies and who doesn’t. They require the permitted vehicle be parked at the curb line adjoining the permittee’s residence. Section 72.029 provides reasonable solutions for situations where space isn’t available at the curb of the permittee’s residence.


Cerritos’ ordinance also provides examples of who qualifies. They require the permitted vehicle must be parked in front of the resident’s home. Cerritos’ General Procedures provide for exceptions to be made on a case-by-case basis. ...

To Experience wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:06 AM:You are Right!! Abed & Gallo do have alot of experience. Alot of experience adopting a budget with a deficit. No thanks!

I'm voting for Diaz & Barron!

I'm voting to detour from the incumbents course and actually head to a path of WEALTH - and that doesn't just include money!!

With the Financail Whiz Kids Diaz & Barron - our city will survive this economic recession!

To to enough wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:10 AM:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've all seen how your help has helped the city. Do you think we are so oblivious to the obvious? Do you not think that we recognize your endless rants about San Gabriel and Cerritos...and then we hear the same things out of Waldron's mouth? Or Abed's or Gallo's? You have really helped to botch things up! I don't even know why you give a rat's behind - you DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS? What's your beef?

p.s. Where did you say the city was going to get the initial $350,000? Would that be the money that should have gone to the firefighters? Good Job Paul!

To Enough wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:11 AM:I agree with some of your points. We do however need to prioritize infastructure repair before upgrading parks. Thats a no brainer. The rental and parking ban are both dumba#@ ideas that will no be cost effective. I disagree with your logic on the checkpoints. Those need to keep up at the pace of 2 a month. Next time you get hit by an unlicensed/illegal driver come see me....it's not fun. Pay Raises: In 2006 the City Manager got a %30+ pay raise. Phillips even said he's known the economy would take a dump two years ago. Kinda odd huh? He forcasted the economic downturn and still gets an ungodly pay raise. He along with other top officials also get $9000 a year car allowance. Yet, he just suspended the merit increases for all unclassified employee's. Also, it seems many people forgot that the Escondido City Counicl is set to get a %10 pay raise after the elections. That was voted in last year in hope that people would forget. WE DIDN'T. Read for yourself.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/11/news/coastal/2_03_4310_10_07.txt

time for change wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:14 AM:French and Diaz are the best choice; two persons that care. one Republican and other Democrat ,100% bipartisan or not partisa.

to to to enough wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:45 AM:I forgot you are one of the clairvoyants. You admit the parking ordinance has not been "finalized, adopted or implemented!" But, you know what the final version is going to say? And, of course you know who the anonymous posters are? You are so perceptive that you imagine citizens who live in the Escondido school districts should not have a voice in controlling overcrowding in the schools their children attend and those same citizens should stand by and watch every day as the value of their homes decline. You haven't got a clue.

Karl wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:58 AM:To Enough @ 9:11 AM, while generally agreeing with you that a lot of City employees are overpaid, even with a 10% raise our council grosses $13,692 per year. What's your point about not forgetting the raise? At a little over 13k per year and much abuse, I don't think these council members or their challengers are in it for the money.

SHOCKED wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:58 AM:HOW COME NO ONE TALKED ABOUT THE CENTER FOR THE ARTS DEBACLE?

YOU WOULD THINK THE CHALLENGERS WOULD GO AFTER THE INCUMBENTS FOR ALLOWING THE CENTER BOARD AND STAFF TO BANKRUPT IT???

IS NO ONE INTERESTED IN THE MILLIONS THAT COULD/WILL BE SAVED BY CHANGING CENTER OPERATIONS?

to shocked wrote on Oct 15, 2008 11:55 AM:because the challengers are supported by the politicians, see Jerry Harmon, who were stupid enough to build the thing in the first place.

To Lisa wrote on Oct 15, 2008 12:04 PM:When you run off at the mouth as much you do and blog so negatively under different names, you are asking for attacks.

Al wrote on Oct 15, 2008 12:22 PM:Even if hell frozes over I would NEVER vote for Diaz. What a jokester she is!

Sam Ed Get My Vote wrote on Oct 15, 2008 12:28 PM:Keep up teh good works guys.! The city neesd straight talkers that keep focused on priorities that plaque this city. Number one is ILLEGAL immigrants. There is no disguising it. Period. They (ILLEGAL's)continue to keep this town in the unfavorable rankings among othe San Diego cities regarding schooling, public perception, home values, crime, unlicesned drivers, gangs, etc. Get them out of here and out the USA!

To Enough wrote on Oct 15, 2008 1:35 PM:Yopu just go oand on..need to get your facts straight!!! EPD are doing the checkpoints with grant money..not from the city...yes, I got hit with an unliciensed driver and 5 years later I am still trying to collect..SO EPD keep it up...the more the better...As for Diaz you don't have my vote, My family is with Abed & Gallo..This city definatly needs cleaning up..just drive around neigbohood and the mess that is at Washington/CCP and on Escondido Blvd.

Hotel wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:34 PM:Why does the city think that the hotel is going to be such a great deal? I believe the Art Center was going to be such a success story for downtown and is has been in the red every year. If I ran my business that way no bailout for me from the City Coffers. I would appreciate any thoughts from the City Council in regard to my comments

Has anyone else noticed wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:49 PM:how strident and aggresive sounding the Olga supporters are? Just like her I guess.

Hatch in Escondido wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:59 PM:I attended the function at the Senior Center last Thursday. It was good to hear the various points of views from the candidates. I developed opinions of the newcomers and reinforced those I had of the incumbants. French was ill informed. Maybe next cycle he will be prepared. Voelker amused the crowd with his engaging wit and presence. Barron, well, why was he even there? He is Olga's best campaigner! Sam and Ed, well, we know them. We know the sacrifices they've made and the service they've rendered. They are my picks again. Now, Olga, lovely Olga Diaz, she's something else. I've spoken against her in city council meetings on matters related to illegal aliens. She has an agenda which is pro-open borders. But, I have to admit she was up on the topics and she is very sharp. I actually like her! But, I wouldn't vote for her and I do intend to help re-elect Abed and Gallo. Let there be no doubt, though, she will be a force in this city in the coming years. I hope that, as she matures (and she is NOT immature by any means) she will temper some of her radical stances. She'll have to. Otherwise, she'll meet disappointment after disappointment. She's got too much on the ball for that.

Vote for Gallo and Abed wrote on Oct 15, 2008 3:07 PM:Gallo and Abed have my votes. Challenders promise things they have no chance to deliver - which shows why they shouldn't be elected. They are naive, foolish, or not telling us the truth. Either way, Gallo and Abed have the experience necessary to lead our city.

Joe wrote on Oct 15, 2008 3:40 PM:Why is it if I say we need to get rid of illegals, I'm a racist, but when this clown from england says we need a latino on the council, he isn't?

I wouldn't vote for this clown if he was the only person running!!

Dont ask wrote on Oct 15, 2008 3:42 PM:about the hotel money that hasn't been spent yet.

Ask about the millions that have been spent in preparation for the hotel that probably now won't be built. Money that we can't recoup because the contract included an easy out for the developer! Just keep giving them extensions.

Promises wrote on Oct 15, 2008 4:43 PM:Nice way to try to spin the truth!

You call these promises - yet four years ago they were called a platform (see the incumbents).

I tell you what I would rather take my chance with newcomers, than to vote for incumbents of which we already know the results. Another bad year economically for the city. The city had a revenue shortfall - creating a deficit and also making it mandatory to cut 7.5% from almost every city department & and also from the non-profits.

I've already seen the results of the incumbents. I won't vote for them!! I did vote for one of them, but I have been proven wrong - I thought he was a good guy! I won't make that mistake again!!

Vote all incumbents OUT from the local to the federal level. Time for a fresh start.

About the police car issue... wrote on Oct 15, 2008 4:47 PM:I don't think it is a problem for those police officers who actually live in Escondido, but it is a serious problem if they don't. If an officer is "on call" over night then they should be allowed to drive their car home, but I don't think there is any other reason that makes sense for this to be a policy. Make some change!

Curtis wrote on Oct 15, 2008 6:13 PM:I'm voting for Olga Diaz and Richard Barron. We need a change on the city council. They have been trying to distract people from what is going on by focusing on illegal immigration while they give away our money to developers and other businesses. We need to use that money for maintaining our infrastructure and making much needed improvements to our city. Houses with 8 families living in them can be dealt with using existing laws. There is no need to spend thousands of dollars trying to pass crazy ordinances that won't hold up in court. Vote for people with common sense. Vote for Richard Barron and Olga Diaz.

CottonBallz wrote on Oct 15, 2008 6:26 PM:The real issues

-$9.8 MILLION deficit for 2007
$18 MILLION gift to hotel developer
$0 profit for CCAE for 14 years
- 9 firefighters
ONLY 10 Police Officers on duty at night
$250,000.00 + wasted om Rental Ban
$50,000.00 wasted parking study
100 year old damn ready to burst
1700 Escondido homes in foreclosure
City raised 170 fees to residents
Sewer nearing capacity
no new high paying jobs
no new high end business's in ERTC
council gives its members a raise
council gives every city employee
$2000 stipend
excessive gas allowneces
hospital fiasco
$250,000.00 stoplight that isnt needed.
Council ignores capital improvements
drive around town ,like the pot holes?
enjoy the graffiti? another $1MILLION wasted by this council.
Look around at the blight of ignored neighborhoods.Are you enjoying the abandoned developments all over town?
Ohhhh...Code enforcement is taking care of this....well where was Code enforcement the last 10 years?
Pfeiler oncouncil 16 years
Waldron on council 12 years
GALLO on council 8 years
ABED on council 4 years
Daniels on council 2 years.
WHERE were the two incrumbants that are running now? Do you seriously think this town got this way over night?
This mess happened on this councils watch.
Dump the entire council !
Gallo & Abed out Nov 4 2008
Pfeiler & Waldron out Nov 2010
if Daniels doesnt becareful he can go in 2010 too.
Rotten apples are rotten apples.
Escondido has a strong stench of rotten apples.
Intelligence counts now more than ever.
GO BARRON!
GO OLGA!
Goodbye Abed Gallo

Mr ED wrote on Oct 15, 2008 6:29 PM:Im sticking with Olga Diaz.
We have nothing to loose going with Richard Barron.
We have already lost most everything with Gallo & Abed.

Right On Curtis wrote on Oct 15, 2008 6:39 PM:I'm with you. Voting for people with common sense - I'm voting for Richard and Olga.

Karl wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:33 PM:Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah. Sam and Ed have the guts to try to clean up this City.

dont you read wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:35 PM:to: shock and too shocked.
Reading through the lists Dennif French has been one to comment about the Arts and its change that needs to happen.. He makes sense and I feel he may need to tighten up on that.. But you know the paper publish what they want .. It wouldnt surprise me that he did say something about it and the press avoided that as they are in the incumbants covers im sure. Ny the way one of the things had made referance to is now in affect. Maybe he pushed it for all we know.

To Karl wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:46 PM:You call what they are doing "having the guts"?

No. A more accurate account would be - the incumbents do not know their role in local politics. They are going beyond their authority and they are costing the city money and reputation!

That's not guts - that's arrogance!

Vote all incumbents out! Starting with Abed & Gallo. You know the ones that would never have the guts to admit that they are wrong!!

Karl wrote on Oct 15, 2008 9:38 PM:To Karl @ 8:46 PM, it looks like our votes will cancel each others.

Peace

Can you tell wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:49 PM:In the artcles I never do see anything that French has said either.. GO FRENCHY GO!!!

Pink Power Ranger wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:52 PM:I do not believe the people attending the forum at the Country Club will vote four more years of Gallo & Abed.Those two did not fool anyone.
Anybody but Abed & Gallo in 08.

High Five wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:55 PM:Promises
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well said!

To Spineless Paul wrote on Oct 16, 2008 7:09 AM:To Submarine Man, Citizens of Chamber, Pablo, Gringo, and all the other names you use Paul: Your blogs are vapid, meaningless, personal attacks, and lack any sign of intellectual merit. They seem to be a direct reflection of you, and the candidates (Abed and Gallo) that you serve. I would normally recommend you come out from behind your computer and come to one of these candidate forums and actually participate in a meaningful way but I know the thought of looking someone in the eye as you spew your nonsense makes you wilt like a wet food stamp.

to cotton ballz wrote on Oct 16, 2008 7:40 AM:Thank you for warning Lori Pfeiler that despite giving this city away, in her bleeding heart manner, she is on your list. Also, your endorsement of Dick Daniels should wake voters up to who he really is.

No More Chances for Abed and Gallo wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:33 AM:I never seem to see any pro Abed and Gallo bloggers list any specific accomplishments of these two Councilmen, not one. I see lots of personal attacks i:e "Diaz is for open borders",(I say provide one bit of proof other than she has a spanish last name)"Barron has only lived in Escondido for 11 years" (So what, Erik Richard ran last time and he had only lived in Escondido for a year, nobody said a word about it) etc etc. If you want to try and convince me, present a tangible arguement. Give us something specific, ANYTHING! I'm not talking about "at least they're trying to clean up Escondido", I'm talking about specific factual content. Until then, the moronic personal attacks just drive the point home, Abed and Gallo do not deserve another chance.

pablo wrote on Oct 16, 2008 10:41 AM:to "to spineless Paul." You are an ... Submarine Man, Citizens of Chamber, and Gringo are not Pablo. You and most others who care, know exactly who Pablo is, because I have publicly written and spoken my views numerous times and have made no effort ever to hide my identity. Get a life. Your stupidity in the belief that you are clairvoyant and all knowing is ridiculous.

grj wrote on Oct 16, 2008 11:30 AM:I support the police, they have to stand up to gang thugs, drunken and drugged out people, and murderers, let them have some benefits like driving cars home.They deserve even more extras than this.

To Pablo wrote on Oct 16, 2008 12:43 PM:Everyone knows exactly who you are. Hint: You should probably vary your blog times and syntax if you want to use multiple blog names,genius. P.S. don't you think your constant use of the word "clairvoyant" under so many blog names gives you away? Really poor attempt at denial Paul.

To grj wrote on Oct 16, 2008 12:48 PM:Yeah I support the police too, especially when there's only like 7 or 8 of them to protect 140,000 of us at night, and they're making less than most other places in the county already.

Hey No more chances wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:05 PM:I posted a direct quote by Olga Diaz, taken from archived footage of a Council meeting, showing her support for illegal immigration and open borders. NCT won't post it. My post also listed a specific reason for my support of Abed/Gallo, a city entity they started. Maybe that's why they won't post it. ??? Sorry, I tried. What gives, NCT? My post contained nothing against your policy. ??

Childish wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:18 PM:I have never read so many childish comments. I read this section in order to gain information that may not have been in the article. Unfortunately, I have to sift through all the na na boo boo's. This name calling and ridiculousness has no place in this forum. I will vote for Abed and Gallo based on their voting records and information and research that that I have found.

januaryM wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:20 PM:Don't mess with the EPD.
The EPD is the only thing between you and the criminal!
They are not the ones in office that have created this mess.
They are not running for office.

Don't get side tracked or lost in the smoke and mirrors.

Goodbye Abed Gallo
***** GAG *****

To Danny P wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:22 PM:You think you could French to teach you English?

TO Hey No more chances wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:25 PM:Put down the hookah pipe. You are delusional and hearing things.

To Hey No more chances wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:32 PM:The NCT believes in the first amendment...but only if it's their freedom of speech!

Marilyn wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:33 PM:You said,
Karl
[-] wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:33 PM:Sam and Ed have the guts to try to clean up this City.
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M I L L I O N S W A S T E D
y Sam & Ed read CottonBallz post
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Karl take off your blindfold.
Look around .8 years of Gallo .You see his "guts" all over Escondido.This is not "art" or accomplishments.It's FAILURE !
Look down East Valley ...see the urban decay...you call that "guts" ,clean?
For over 4 years Abed has been so proud of East Valley ,it's a pig sty,with or without lipstick.
These two ... lead you over a cliff like one of their sheep...you never said STOP! When will you have the "guts" to stand up to these failures?
Goodbye Abed & Gallo
Vote Barron & Diaz
Nov 4 2008

To Pablo wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:35 PM:So...you admit you are Paul.

One Question:

Why did you choose the name "Pablo"?

To RudeMan wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:43 PM:To the rude man that posted Oct 16, 1:22pm.

Rude Dude!!

We could take that up a notch and propose that the same be sought for Abed...he apparantly has a bit of trouble expressing himself in the American language.

How did that feel? Pretty Rude, huh?

Sorry I had to stoop that low - but, I felt I HAD to counter your rude point! Maybe you will stop to think the next time you are so rude and want to attack someone personally.

Pink Power Ranger wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:46 PM:TO Childish

You should read Cotton Ballz post for the real issues.
Or visit gagabedgallo.All the research has been done, you don't need to search.
Learn the facts ...in their own words,documented.
Make your decison based on truthful facts.Not false accusations and lies.
Please don't base your vote on any infighting between posters.

To Hey No More Chances wrote on Oct 16, 2008 2:26 PM:Are you trying to tell us with all the uncensored rants on here for both the incumbents and challengers that the NCT is specifically forbidding you from posting pro Abed/Gallo Statements? C'mon, I'm sure you are allowed to write what you think they've accomplished and I'm sure they'd let you quote Olga Diaz as long as it was a real quote and not something you made up. Your statement is really hard to believe.

Mum wrote on Oct 16, 2008 3:52 PM:Mum is Pablo's word for the day.

No comment Paul?

Since you know Abed & Gallo so well maybe you could tell us how the city has become more prosperous as Abed says? And how Gallo puts Safety First with our kids (eight years ago doesn't really count)?

pablo wrote on Oct 16, 2008 4:44 PM:To "to Pablo." Not all posts from Pablo are from this Pablo either. I'll repeat, whenever I post, I don't give a "rat's behind" who knows it's me. And, if you think you know some poster is me, you don't, because it isn't. I'll repeat also, you are not clairvoyant. If that bothers you good.

Hey No More Chances Again wrote on Oct 16, 2008 7:44 PM:You want something specific Abed and Gallo have done to improve the city? Try ACT, the Appearance and Compliance Team. It has made a noticeable change in the relentless tagging, yard parking, inoperative vehicles, etc that were causing such blight. I credit them for that, and I will vote for Abed/Gallo as I believe you should too.

A bit of proof that Olga Diaz is for open borders? How about her very own words before the Escondido City Council in 2006: She said there is a perceived cost to illegal immigration that we would all struggle to calculate, but there are benefits such as sales tax contribution, service payments, such things.. To siphon off a portion of our population because we will no longer allow them to live here is going to have financial impacts on business for all of us..

Go ask the ER staff at Palomar Hospital if they struggle to calculate the cost of illegal immigration. Likewise, go ask the Starbucks at Mission/Quince if their business benefits from the illegals swarming customers as they pull into the business, or the illegals urinating on nearby walls as they wait for work.

No thanks Olga.

To Pablo wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:55 PM:As usual, you're still not making any sense. I addressed "Spineless Paul" in my blog and you took it upon yourself to answer. If, and I mean that loosely, someone else was using your handle why did you address it? And just for the record it doesn't bother me a bit if you use the word "clairvoyant" in your numerous rants under numerous names including two on this article alone. I've seen dozens of posts in this newspaper from "Pablo" that were obviously from the same person that uses the other blog names I mentioned (among others) and I have never once seen you blog in and say "hey that's not me" until you got called on it. Nope, still not convincing anyone Paul.

To hey No More Again wrote on Oct 16, 2008 10:49 PM:First of all I am amazed that "the ACT Team" is what you offered up as their accomplishment. In twelve combined years on the council this is the crowning achievement of Abed and Gallo? The very same ACT team whose ineffectual enforcement of code is the stated reason for the parking ordinance? (To fight overcrowding and illegal garage conversions). Call it an achieivement if you like, at least you had the courage to come up with an answer. I for one do not see it that way. I certainly wouldn't brag about it.

Now for Diaz quote. Let's keep this honest. You and I both know this quote does not advocate open borders. Nowhere in that statement does she say open the borders and let them come. Let's make believe Abed is right and there are 35,000 illegal aliens in Escondido. And let's pretend some more and say we kicked them all out. Do you not think that losing a third of your population would have a negative impact on local business? I'm not asking you if that's what you want, I think we know the answer. I'm asking do you think it would have a negative impact on local business (and therefore city tax revenue, the services the city can provide etc? You have to admit it would and that is what she was saying there. In no way is she advocating open borders. I read the quote several times and found no way you could interpret it that way. It takes a great leap. I respect that fact that you articulated your position but it in no way backs up the "sanctuary city" and "Tijuana North" and "Open Borders" smear tactics of some people who blog in against Diaz.

Lastly, Starbucks on Mission is doing fine. I go through the drive-through all the time and I have never been approached and I see the place doing great business. Now the hospital issue, we finally agree. This is a problem. But this is a problem that Congress needs to address. If border states are forced to provide services to illegal ailens by federal law, then the border states should be re-imbursed by the federal government for it. Elect conressmen who are willing to fight that fight and I'll go door to door in support. This is not the job or the realm of the city council. This is why I don't support Abed and Gallo and I don't think you should either. Neither seems to have attended Civics class or they never paid attention when they did.

Local wrote on Oct 17, 2008 3:39 AM:My 'hood' sports a pro-Olga sign. A few months ago, I helped a resident of the property reign in one of her chickens that was contemplating suicide by car on Juniper. The place is a dump. This is a prime example of olga's peeps.

pablo wrote on Oct 17, 2008 8:35 AM:to my obviously obsessive stalker, you say in your 7:09 am post, "Submarine Man, Citizens of Chamber, Pablo, Gringo" are the same person. In your 12:45 pm you say, "don't you think your constant use of the word "clairvoyant" under so many blog names gives you away?" So let's settle this the easy way. All you need to do is point out when and where Submarine Man, Citizens of Chamber, and/or Gringo used the word clairvoyant. Not that I give a "rat's behind" but does using "rat's behind" make me you? Your ignorance is astounding. Tic tic tic.

To Pablo wrote on Oct 17, 2008 10:26 AM:I'm a stalker? Hardly. You're the one who blogs constantly under the different names. So you claim your not "submarine man" etc. but you know their blog history? Again you give yourself away. No one else on these blogs cares about our exchange Paul and me and you already know what the truth is, sorry if you don't have the courage to own it. And when you do bother to post why don't you at least make some effort to make sense. What is with your "rat's behind" reference? So there it is Paul. You got called and worked and the more you deny the more obvious you make it. I'm going to sign off now, you bore me.

To Pablo wrote on Oct 17, 2008 11:04 AM:Give it a Break, Dude. You lost the argument, now go back to bed!

p.s. This post is from someone else who is bored to death with your nonsense!! You don't even get to vote in Escondido's elections - you live in the county!

To Local wrote on Oct 17, 2008 11:10 AM:Hey Local...and what were you doing up @ 3:39am. Reading? Writing your thesis? Sorry you bought or own a house in the area that was over-built by the previous developer-loving council of the 70's & 80's...you should move outta your "hood"...wouldn't want you to help anyone especially to save an animal (even if it is just a chicken). How big of you! Did you smile and pretend that you honestly wanted to help? Or did you tell you neighbor that he/she was a boneheaded loser, whose place is a dump and you find it disgusting that he/she has a chicken and that you wish you hadn't offered up your fake help? Just wondering.

Time for you to move...I hear Hayden Lake, Idaho is nice!

Hey No More wrote on Oct 17, 2008 1:14 PM:I never offered ACT up as the "crowning achievement" of anyone. I was responding to a post that seemed to demand "specific factual content" showing Abed/Gallo cleaning up the city.

Regarding Diaz' quote, let's keep it honest indeed. Someone who is open-border certainly would not be as openly radical about it as, say, an L.A. or S.F. area politician when the audience is in North County. Especially not immediately following the tremendous backlash seen in the wake of the Spring 2006 "Pro-Immigration" rallies. No, a college educated person with a background in accounting would more likely try a seemingly rational approach, like an appeal to business concerns regarding lost revenue. That person would say something exactly like what Diaz said to the council.

So lets address her concerns and yours, and talk about effects on business. I, and anyone else who passed high school economics, would recognize that removing a large population of illegals would have noticeable effects on area businesses. Especially 99 cent stores, check cashing businesses, used car lots, Mi Pueblo Market, etc. But long-term the city would make net gains by cleaning up its image and attracting more profitable ventures. I don't think that takes a great leap.

I'm glad we agree about the hospital, and I found it quite ironic that my post came up about the same time as that article regarding local ERs.

Have Abed/Gallo been mistake free? Not so much. If a better candidate came along they'd have my vote. But I give them credit for taking some action, and I know the city is headed in a better direction than it would have been with Diaz.

Curt N wrote on Oct 17, 2008 1:59 PM:I love Gallo and Abed. They have my vote.

To To Local wrote on Oct 17, 2008 2:57 PM:Wrong on all counts. Juniper is part of Old Escondido. My home is historic and sits on an acre and a half plus. And yes, I spent a bit of time helping the woman and her kids corral the wayward chicken and she thanked me profusely. Anymore snide comments?

pablo wrote on Oct 17, 2008 3:46 PM:Just as I thought. Woke up from my nap and guess what, the clairvoyants couldn't back-up a word they wrote, or rather imagined.

VOTE THE INCUMBENTS wrote on Oct 17, 2008 4:19 PM:VOTE THE INCUMBENTS OUT OF OFFICE!!

OUR CITY HAS A $9.8 MILLION DOLLAR REVENUE SHORTFALL

AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIREFIGHTERS OR COPS

GET RID OF ABED & GALLO - THEY HAVE MADE TOO MANY MISTAKES!!

To Local wrote on Oct 17, 2008 5:25 PM:Ah Ha! So you can dish it out, but you can't take it.

I don't think the lady and her child would have thanked you if she knew you thought her place was a dump!

januaryM wrote on Oct 18, 2008 5:00 PM:Is today's Escondido in worse shape than it was 8 years ago?
Today while at the park with my 6 year old Grandson he asked me," What are you thinking about?"
I told him ,
"I want to make Escondido a better place for you to live."
He responded with,
"Maybe, start with cleaning it Grandma."
A 6 year old can see it.

So if you can't see it or you just don't care, vote for the same people that took it to the gutter.

If you want to change it and do things right.
VOTE DIAZ & BARRON
NOV 4 2008
Goodbye Abed Gallo

Pink Power Ranger wrote on Oct 18, 2008 5:07 PM:Best political sign I've seen so far.
Gallo's picture with an anti red circle and line thru his face.With the words:
Gallo BAD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY !
Liked it so much I took a picture of it!


Goodbye Abed Gallo
**** GAG ****