Darn wrote on Oct 20, 2008 6:18 PM:This was a perfect opportunity for the the Border Patrol to cruise Canyon Drive. I happen to pass by Canyon Drive and OPD was doing a superb job, a ticket here and a ticket there.

I was wondering wrote on Oct 20, 2008 8:33 PM:Is that what was going on on Saturday? I thought it was a Hispanic wedding or something at that Ebenezzer Church. I was driving by and a Hispanic man crossing the street into oncoming traffic almost got hit by three cars. And there were more like a hundred Hispanics near the old Big lot store waving Mexican flags. What was that all about?

Glad for OPD wrote on Oct 20, 2008 8:35 PM:Glad to see OPD out on Canyon that day. Ticketing Jay walkers. I could see why they couldn't have walked another 150 feet to the cross walk, they deserve to get a ticket, heard a few Minutemen got tickets for Jay walking too.

Why wrote on Oct 20, 2008 8:36 PM:do legal immigrants need a Mexican passport unless they are not legal. Why do they need a Mexican ID card to open bank accounts if they are her legally?
Would have rather seen Border Patrol than OPD

Clea wrote on Oct 20, 2008 9:06 PM:Mr Diaz says "the consulate issued about 350 passports"... Aren't passports supposed to be issued IN the country of origin BEFORE leaving said country? Oh wait... that's how it's done legally by law abiding citizens of the world. It is apparant that Mr Diaz and the Mexican consulate are either completely IGNORANT of the law or CHOOSE to violate it.

ICE should be paying attention to these "mobile consulates" whose sole purpose is to aid ILLEGAL ALIENS by giving them some form of ID. If ICE is understaffed or low on resources it would stand to reason that going to these gatherings created explicitly for ILLEGAL ALIENS would be like "shooting fish in a barrel" and be a good use of their stretched resources.

Kudos to OPD. I hope you can benefit from a sale of the impounded vehicles driven by ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Michelle wrote on Oct 20, 2008 9:14 PM:I just don't undertand what these cards are for? If people are in the states legally they would have some kind of US identification. If they are visitors they would have passports or visas.

So why would people here want Mexican ID cards. They aren't in Mexico!! Am I missing something? Was this the Mexican consulate giving ID's to people who are in the states illegally? Aiding and abetting illegals maybe?!!

Angie wrote on Oct 20, 2008 9:17 PM:Were Claudia Smith and Tina Jillings there? They love open borders stuff!! How about "I don't arrest illegals" Mr. Flores?

Thank You wrote on Oct 20, 2008 9:21 PM:Jack Feller and Jim Gibson for showing support to the protest of this foreign anarchy in our city! Who gave the Mexican Govt. permission to come in and give aid to illegal aliens? I thought that was a felony? Feller and Gibson for City Council. Finally some candidates with the guts to take a stand!

Border Patrol wrote on Oct 20, 2008 9:31 PM:This is a great opportunity for the border patrol to round up hundreds of illegal immigrants. Call the San Clemente Border Patrol station at six one nine, five five seven, five two seven two and let them know about the next event.

It is waste of time people wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:11 PM:This is mexico!

The Border Patrol is a waste of money wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:11 PM:The US Does not use them!

We all know California is part of Mexico wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:13 PM:Obama could care less! He an Hollywood have given it back to them! So sit back and start learning Spanish!

Wen all know this was Mexico first wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:14 PM:The President, and both the candidates are giving it back to them. Stop working and wait for your check from Obama!

Working is foolish wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:16 PM:Quit your jobs and wait for your welfare check! Land of the free to do nothing! Land of the prideless! Why work? Obama will take care of me! Freebies!

If Broder Patrol thier job wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:17 PM:They go to jail! Like the 2 Agnets in the jail!

Bobby wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:29 PM:Is Alberto Diaz the guy who said San Diego will belong to Mexico one day again, or was that some other fifth columnist passing out worthless and fraudulent I.D.'s for illegal foreign nationals from Mexico--who have NO permission to be in this foreign(to them)nation. Just wondering.

Two factors will be the final ruin of the United States. 1)voting for either McCain or Obama, 2) Allowing the continued,invasion of foreign nationals from Narco-State.(Mexico) Too bad so many Americans are still in a clueless, lead heavy state of apathy about it all.

43 Citations wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:38 PM:Is a lot of criminals and lawbreakers. Of course most of these people entered our country illegally so why would they follow our other laws? Shame on the Ebenezer Church for hosting this event for illegal aliens. What is happening to our country when the consulate can come out and aid and abet hundreds of illegal Mexicans to help them stay here illegally. This nonsense needs to stop. I'm calling Darrell Issa tomorrow to find out what he's doing about this!

Where is my post wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:56 PM:Are you censoring? What is up?

blunderbuss wrote on Oct 20, 2008 11:05 PM:Very heartwarming to see all those ILLEGALLY parked and registered vehicles getting towed.

Build it faster.

Question wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:16 AM:Which protest did the councilmen support??
Great reporting.

Laurian wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:32 AM:Michelle, look up the history of these cards and see the opportunity the banks seized to "tap into a whole new market." It's beyond comprehension that this has been even allowed according to US banking laws. Contrary to popular belief, the only ones who would need one are the ones here illegally because if they have a green card or other government-issued I.D., there'd be no need for a cheap-o matricular card.

Isn't it funny that many times when an illegal is arrested, they have multiple matricular IDs on them with the same photo but different names?

Some need learn speak goodly english wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:53 AM:Thanks OPD! I understand the scope you have been given to operate within and it is almost insulting. Something is better than nothing. Keep it up.

Did these people lose wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:18 AM:their cards? How come ICE wasn't there it is known these are the illegal aliens that are not to be in this counrty. How come no arrest within the City Police Department for failing to proptect the taxpayers from people they know have no business being in the country. Time for citizens arrest to be made? Anfd if I hear one more time it is a Federal matter, I will testify in court for a bank robber that it was an illegal arrest as the officer interfered with a Federal crime. Can't have it both ways, boys and girls.

Matricula Cards wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:21 AM:Are only needed by illegal aliens. Everyone else has legal ID or just lives "in the shadows", collecting Welfare for all their "citizen" children and the whole family. Even the children at the event claimed that the US "stole" from Mexico, so now it's "pay back time."

Dave wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:29 AM:Jack Feller and Vista Unified school board trustee Jim Gibson answered my e-mail’s about illegal immigration. They along with Woods and Rex Martin are against illegal immigration.
Vote for all 4!

Correction wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:59 AM:I asked all the candidates about illegal immigration, and they are ALL AGAINST. As to who can do the most about illegal immigration, that would be the congressional race, which perhaps should have more play in the city of Oceanside. But for city council, the best candidates are the people's candidates -- Vote YES for Wood, Sanchez and Lowery!

350 ID Cards wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:00 AM:Matricula cards are only issued to Mexican illegals by the Mexican Govt. so they can get all their bank accounts and services here in Jorge Bush's North American Union. Tony Zepatella was killed in 2004 by a previously deported illegal alien gang banger. OPD must have been infuriated having to stand and watch 350 more aliens be issued "documents" by the corrupt Mexican Govt.
Anger is building rapidly and this will not turn out well for Mexico and their invaders.

Please wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:07 AM:No one is FOR illegal immigration! What part of the city's budget do you want to use to enforce federal laws???!!! I mean, do you want to close parks, libraries? Do you want to cut back on cops and firefighters? You should be talking to our federal reps. Where were they???!!!!

Brian wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:07 AM:Here is proof that Mexico is using illegal immigration as a mechanism to merge it and USA into a North American Union.

Memories wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:09 AM:These blogs remind me of when the KKK wanted to march through downtown Oceanside. We don't need extremist groups in Oceanside -- in either direction! Keep the minutemen in Escondido, and take Gibson and Feller with you!

paranoia wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:14 AM:There was no need for the bravado. I simple call the the police department and/or immigration officials would have gotten the same results. I am ashamed of the 2 council candidates who showed up at this hate-feeding rally...

To 350 ID cards wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:26 AM:Officer Dan Bessant was killed on duty as well. Was he killed by illegal immigrants? What is your point?

Patriot wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:34 AM:What say you, ACLU? Separation of church and [U.S.] state, but not separation of church and [Mexico] state. Has Mexico has received permission from the United States to conduct their government business from a particular church? If so, could this be perceived as a state endorsement of one religion over another?

Am I as wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:41 AM:a taxpayer paying my local police department to enforce ALL laws or just the laws they feel are under their jurisdication? I believe I am not sure, but I think we pay a police department to jail people who are breaking America's laws, not just local laws. I am calling for Citizens Arrest on Police Cheifs! Not your job? Better get on the horn to Washington DC and tell them the people are getting madder and madder.

Yo Dave Comprende Ingles wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:51 AM:There are 2 council seats for you to vote on. There's 1 mayor's position open. Let's do the math: 2 + 1 = 3. So, go ahead and "vote for all 4". Then call Rush or Roger to explain it to you.

American wrote on Oct 21, 2008 8:54 AM:Well it seems to me that Patriot is confused with what the separation of church and state means. If he is a true Patriot he would be grateful that we are live in a free country. The only ones who have to give permission to use the church is the church. Why should it be anyone’s business what type of business is being conducted on private property? You analogy is ridiculous and farfetched. Keep trying though and perhaps you might get it next time!!!

To Please wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:03 AM:Use your imagination to control illegal immigration.
Crack down on CCR violations in the city.
Run checkpoints for compliance on vehicle registration and insurance coverage.
Make sure all city operations use E-verify.
Only when cities push the issue will congress get the point they need to start caring about our construction jobs taken by the illegal’s, our hospitals put in ruin over illegal’s presence, and our schools reduced to 3 world levels. All our north county cities need to prepare for the attacks by the ACLU. Create a county wide defense fund against the ACLU and organize the recall of the liberal judges supporting the ACLU’s position on illegal immigration. Action is what is needed now to show congress we mean business.
Congress listened when they tried to pass the last amnesty bill, and when they tried to sneak it into other bills. We are fed up with their indecisiveness.

Disgusted and changing my vote wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:09 AM:Shame on Jack Feller and Jim Gibson. Don't they know what the SDMM stand for and promote?

American Citizen wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:12 AM:Dear editor, Is this version better? Please post it!

Good job San Diego Minutemen and the Oceanside Police Department. The Mexican government is selling ID cards and passports to Mexican illegal alien invaders to further their stated taking back of the Southwest, the Mexican Reconquesta. Our federal government is aiding and abetting the Reconquesta by allowing this to take place. Urge you Representative to stop the Mexican Reconquesta by stopping the State Department's policy of non-intervention. The reason the feds allow it is to facilitate the coming North American Union.

Whoo-hoo wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:13 AM:Clean this town up! Illegals and their descendants are the root cause of why our state budget is so whacked right now. The politicians must have finally done the math and came to this realization too.

Dear taxpayer wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:17 AM:Yes, the biggest chunk of our taxes goes to the feds; then the state; finally, the city. So, perhaps instead of hanging out on corners you should be working on getting our federal tax dollars to be doing what they should be doing. PS The article isn't explicit, but if there HAD been illegal aliens, then the INS or ICE or would have been there to take custody. So, apparently it was more an opportunity for a bunch of hate mongers to get together and share their hate. I don't want any illegals here either, but I don't see how this type of hate helps Oceanside. We're tryng to become a tourist destination city, and we have people come from all over the world. I doubt that they would continue to come if this kind of stuff continues. I'm not voting for Gibson or Feller. They should not be encouraging this stuff. All they've shown me is that understand very little about tourism and marketing. Plus, I don't want what happened to Escondido to happen to Oceanside. The city council lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the city is losing businesses daily. Not what we need here.

Dude wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:51 AM:Good Job O.P.D.

Hey Clea wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:13 AM:Look up the definition of a 'Consulate' and an 'Embassy'. Passports from every country on planet earth have been issued within our borders forever without incident. What if you were outside the country and your passport was stolen? Our consulte would issue you a replacement whether you were in Germany, Japan, Mexico or wherever. Ignorance of our immigration laws has gotten us here...

Come on wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:14 AM:Watch " A Day Without a Mexican"....enough said. Take all of the immigrants without papers, and expect to do your own house cleaning, your own food production, taking care of your own children, your own gardening, etc. You bunch of ignorant people, you were all part of immigrant families at one point, illegal or not (unless you are Native American). Go study economics and history.

whatwho wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:00 AM:what banks accept these Id's, what businesses. Are these the same banks that are getting 'bailout' money from the taxpayers??

To Goons wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:20 AM:Oh no you don't. We will not allow the Mexican government and all the illegal aliens activists to come into OUR cities.
Laws are laws and they will be enforced in Oceanside and North County. Go whine and cry to Billy Flores if you don't like it. Or better yet, move down to a sanctuary city - San Diego or National City. Not in our house! Go Oceanside, go Minutemen!

To American wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:22 AM:Any business that is illegal is illegal, even if it is happening on private property. And handing out what amounts to fraudulent ID cards to illegal immigrants could certainly be considered an illegal business. It doesn't matter that the church is private property at that point. Or that the business is being conducted by the government of a foreign country.

Granted, this isn't a church vs state issue, but it sure is an issue that law abiding citizens might consider a slap in the face.

Kind of like taking out a mortgage on a house knowing full well you can't afford it, then crying when it's foreclosed on, resulting in the government then paying for part of the house. What about all the folks that work to make their payments, after making responsible decisions? Think anyone's going to pay for part of their houses?

The bottom line is that legal, responsible, hard working people in this country are getting ever more sick and tired of those that scoff at the law, ignore their own responsibility, and are then rewarded by a government that strives to keep them fat and happy, all to make sure they get re-elected.

This must stop, one way or another, or all is lost in this great country.

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:26 AM:This is outrageous! ICE, the Border Patrol, US Marshalls, FBI, Homeland Security, and the US State Department should have been notified and present at this event. And, the Mexican consulate should have either escorted away or arrested for subversive (anti-governmental) activities. These sorts of activities are thoroughly illegal in Mexico, and Americans would be arrested for these kind of events and politically charged assemblies.

This is essentially a bloodless, shot-less invasion by Mexicans (and others) and the Mexican government is behind it all. It's time to confront the Mexican government, and take action to prevent the onslaught of hordes of illegal aliens and subsequently issuance of phony documentation (aka matricula consular cards) to legitimize them.

Enough is enough, and I implore any/all concerned Americans to stand up, speak up, and take action!

Clea wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:37 AM:I read these comments that denounce "extremest groups" and mention "hate". Well, keep it up. These words will become as marginalized as the empty "racist" labels your kind so ineffectively tosses about. I, for one, do indeed HATE what is happening to my adopted country via the illegal invasion occurring at our southern border and now in churches in our cities and towns. I am an "extremest" in so far as I am EXTREMELY angry that some of our elected officials simply look the other way or outright support this illegal activity.

Thank God for "extremest groups" who "hate" what is happening to our country enough to get out and do something about it. Thank God for the Minutemen (women too) and the leadership of Oceanside and Oceanside PD. Thank God for the good men and women of the OPD as well who do their job with no where near enough recognition for a job well done.

RVG wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:27 PM:Stupid Sensors

Patriot wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:32 PM:OK, we get it. Any foreign entity can set up operation in a place of worship and provide services of whatever sort to persons in this country illegally, as long as the religious organization authorizes it. We can all breathe a big sigh of relief.

How did we fail them wrote on Oct 21, 2008 12:58 PM:"Officer Bessant was killed by a home-grown U.S. Citizen thug." How did we fail them these "home-grown thugs"? You should be ashamed of yourself!!! How is this a different scenario a cop is still dead! Who cares how much tea costs in China I get mine from England.

What is the real problem here wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:01 PM:What's the big deal at least they can keep tabs on these people. The United States, through its embassies abroad, like many nations, similarly issues similar consular identification documents when necessary to meet its obligations to United States citizens. We do it in other countries what's the big beef?

To Clea wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:09 PM:Do you mean extremist groups?

Feller Comes to the Rescue wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:32 PM:Now all of a sudden Jack Feller sees the immigration problem in Oceanside. Jack you are about 8 years too late like all the time you were in city council. What were you and your majority doing when Escondido City Council was actually trying to solve problems created by the invasion. Absolutely nothing! Now you think you have a firebrand issue because Gibson is politicizing immigration problems. Give it up gentlemen. There is absolutely nothing Jim Gibson or Jack Feller can do and all the rhetoric you generate is just that talk. Immigration is a dead issue. Whoever is elected president is going to legalize some 10 million. The Republican Party is going to be dead for about 8 years. Thank George W for destroying your party.

GREAT IDEA wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:39 PM:To the liberals here. Let's ride down to TJ, visit a church and promote some US citizens causes in Mexico. How long do you think we would last?

Get Real wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:46 PM:If you all remember the 9/11 terrorist were here legally!!! They were given a VISA to be here!!!! They were trained by us to fly those planes!!! There is a huge difference between the people who come here for a better life. I have yet to see a little Mexican running around with a bomb strapped to his back. Get real people. I think too much is being made about this identification card situation. I think we need to be more afraid of some of our very own home grown domestic terrorists.

To Whatwho wrote on Oct 21, 2008 1:59 PM:my what short memory you have. Remeber the stink with Bank of America giving credit cards to illegals? They weren't called Bank of Mexico for nothing.

To Disgusted wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:16 PM:Yes, Gibson and Feller joined the Minutemen to save Oceanside from continued degradation from Mexican-flag waving punks and criminals. Ester "La Raza" Sanchez is toast! All Americans are taking a stand for this beautiful country made great by LEGAL immigrants, not ungrateful, un-assimilating border hopping criminals! Go Feller, Gibson, and Chavez!

Bobby wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:19 PM:What is happening in San Diego as well as the rest of the U.S. is a joke. The government pretending to enforce the law by deporting a few criminals from mainly Mexico, is trying to fool Americans. The truth is that millions upon millions of illegal aliens from Narco State South,(Mexico)have been and are invading the U.S.

Conclusion: no matter what individual cities do, the day when there are a hundred million illegal alien Mexicans in the U.S. is the day they have, defacto, amnesty, control,etc. and the American public won't be able to do a thing about it.

I grew up in a rough part of Los Angeles. When I would go to school as a kid, and I'd have two or three friends with me, we'd never get roughed up or attacked by punks running in gangs. But if their was only me, alone, and seven punks against me, guess who had to give up his lunch money and get belted in the stomack to boot? Huh? A word to the wise is sufficient. Those readers who understand will get my point, as it relates to the invasion of foreign nationals.

Question: Just how much respect do most Americans think that invading foreign nationls will have for America and Americans, when they have been allowed to come here, with impunity, and do whatever they want? Again, a word to the wise is suffiecient.

This is not good news wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:23 PM:I don't like the idea of these groups coming from out of town to disrupt our city. The article is clear that these intruders don't live in Oceanside. Oceanside is a good, and fair City and I want to keep it that way. I have lived in Oceanside all my life and I don't like hearing these types of reports. I have seen the actions of this extremist group on the news many times and I don't want them invading my city. So minutemen go, yes go away!!! I am disappointed in Jack Feller. I have voted for him in every election but I will not waste my precious vote on him this year. I will not vote for anyone who stands along side hate mongers.

Shut down Mexican anarchy wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:43 PM:The matricular consular cards being issued ARE NOT accepted as valid identification in Mexico - so why should the U.S. citizenry accept BOGUS identifications being issued by a hostile foreign power in our "post-9/11" world? Since when do we as Americans deserve lesser protection against definite identity fraud generation/perpetuation than the citizenry within Mexico? The Mexican government needs to be held accountable to fix THEIR country and create the opportunities for its people there - they have the natural resources and human potential to get it done, but they won't so long as our government allows them to bankrupt our social services' system and bankrupt our country by our continued coddling of their citizenry illegally within our borders! Viva La Migra - great job SDMM and OPD!

Clea wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:46 PM:To "To Clea",

Yes I mean extremist groups. Thank you for catching the spelling error(s). I should run this sort of thing through a spell checker since as an ESL contributor here I should be very conscious of correct spelling. Your comment is refreshing as it indicates there are no arguments with the actual content.

Gramma Thug wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:47 PM:I'm not really a thug.I've be accused of being one one these boards.
???? who reminded Greg in O'side to post so we would all believe he is from there???????
He forgot to call out the Brownies too.

You've been thugged!

American citizen wrote on Oct 21, 2008 2:49 PM:Immigration debate? There's nothing to 'debate' - American taxpayers pay taxes to maintain a 'country.' Countries have BORDERS. BOGUS matricular consular cards don't legalize those who are in our country illegally - blame it on The Rule of Law.
Viva La Migra, SDMM, and OPD!

Craig wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:01 PM:To: How did we fail them- For some reason my original post got pulled. If you read my post correctly, I am upset that a police officer was killed. It upsets me even more when our police are killed by illegal aliens that have no business being here. If we enforced our borders he never would have been killed. The point being, the price of tea in China is irrelevant to this blog, just as a police officer killed by a US citizen is separate from one being killed by an illegal alien.

Skip wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:24 PM:Time to shut down this long-running Mexican scam by putting an immediate freeze on Mexican consulate openings. Current consulates should be consolidated — there are at least 10 in California alone.

Mexican Consulates Offer Healthcare Help wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:29 PM:First came the Mexican consular photo identification cards that closely resembled U.S. driver’s licenses. Then the Mexican government worked with the Treasury Department to make sure the U.S. banking system remained open to immigrants. Now Mexican consulates in the U.S. are taking on an even more formidable challenge: the healthcare system.

A program called Ventanillas de Salud, or Health Windows, aims to provide Mexican immigrants with basic health information, cholesterol checks and other preventive tests. It also makes referrals to U.S. hospitals, health centers and government programs where patients can get care without fear of being turned over to immigration authorities.
SOURCE: Los Angeles Times 5/31/97

Peggy wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:30 PM:Those who support ILLEGAL immigration by saying we ALL come from immigrants keep deleting the word that describes the problem--ILLEGAL. We have an Immigration Policy in place in order to maintain some effective control over who and how many people come into the U.S., from ANYWHERE, to build a better life. How long will we have a country or way of life anyone will want if we give it away to those who take it illegally? This is not "racist"--it is fair policy to protect our country and her citizens. Change the law if you want more people here-from any country. In the meantime, get educated on our country, her history, and WHY we have the Constitution and laws in the first place. Take responsibility for the life you want to have--here or anywhere in the world.

Economics wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:48 PM:The Mexican Cards are to help the illegal money come to the bank....where it goes into an account and gets put in with all the legal money...and is sent back to Mexico or spent here... everyone is happy for goods and services have been payed for...and the wheels go round...

Back to Feller wrote on Oct 21, 2008 5:22 PM:Lets go back to Feller and his histroinic display of concern about the illegal immigration issue. Using Jack's most famous word so he doesn't call people liars, let's say Jack's efforts are disingenuous. Until the right-winger Gibson came into Oceanside politics Chavez, Kern and Feller did not seem to care much about the problems associated with the invasion. Now the Republican pals seem to think they have an issue that can help them get elected. It is an old ploy guys. Where were you when we needed you? Too much concern about concrete and asphalt plants to drive around and see what your constituents were complaining about but you were not listening. Too busy at the ballpark I suppose. Like Perot said listen for that great sucking sound as the Republicans are sucked out of office and replaced by Democrats. Once that happens Obama with the aid of his democratic Congress majority , will legalize the 10 million just as George W and McCain would have done. So please Jack Feller and Gibson the show is over come up with something better to scare us about before the election. Immigration is not going to do it. TOO LATE learn Espanol if you want to be in politics.

Bobby wrote on Oct 21, 2008 5:40 PM:Mexican consulates offer health care help, I'm sure they do. You know the sad part, that so many selfish, self-satisfied and ignorant Americans don't care enough about their fellow 40-50million Americans that don't have health care like the illegal aliens do. I guess what the U.S. really is, is not a nation at all. Just an "economic zone", where the land and resources are to be raped and exploited by anyone in the world with the means to do so. Isn't that really Congresses and the Senates and the administrations philosophy. It sure seems like it to me sometimes. Just an economic zone, with Americans not being very important in this scheme at all. Anyone got a good scam going they want to share?

To question wrote on Oct 21, 2008 6:27 PM:Which protest? There was only one: "...About 40 members of the anti-illegal immigration San Diego Minutemen protested the consulate's event."
The people opposed to the SDMM's protest were referred to in the article as COUNTERprotestors.

Report 40 percent of countys Medi-Cal births to illegal immigrants wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:52 PM:NORTH COUNTY ---- A state report quietly released last spring shows illegal immigrants made up the largest single group of those giving birth at TAXPAYER EXPENSE in the state and in San Diego County in 2004.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/01/07/news/top_stories/20_40_021_6_07.txt

Report estimates countys illegal immigrant cost at 256 million in 2006 wrote on Oct 21, 2008 7:53 PM:http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/09/08/news/top_stories/19_46_779_7_07.txt

Mexican wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:25 PM:To late, we already are the majority. This was Mexico before any white man showed their face breaking every treaty with the Indians and soon, we will be in office in mass numbers. TOO LATE, WE WIN!!

GO OPD wrote on Oct 21, 2008 9:42 PM:And Jack Feller and Jim Gibson. This made my decision. Maybe other candidates want to claim to be anti-illegal immigration but they didn't put action where their mouths are, Feller and Gibson did.

We in Oceanside won't put up with this nonsense. Take your cards and go back home. We are tired of supporting you! We are tired of pouring our tax dollars into our schools and hospitals. You want to wave a mexican flag? Go back to the country that represents, don't expect us to let you cram your country down our throats.

Syl wrote on Oct 21, 2008 10:24 PM:The only thing worse for Republicans than a Democrat President is a Republican President that drives a wedge between members of his own party at every opportunity. And McCain only promises to do that even more than Bush did.

The day Bush first floated Amnesty was the day I left the Republican Party. I knew he would never stop pushing it, and sadly I was right.

TO Mexican wrote on Oct 21, 2008 11:10 PM:Oh the whiteman...You are the racist.

If you wanted CA so bad you should have fought harder.

Thanks but you have nothing but welfare checks

borderraven wrote on Oct 22, 2008 8:36 AM:If Mexico is able to identify Mexicans who are in the USA illegaly violating US immigration laws, homeless, hungry, poor,or unemployed, then why doesn't Mexico, see to it that Mexican citizens are repatriated back to Mexico?

John wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:31 AM:If we keep voting for trickle down economics, the Mexicans will be gone with all the jobs and we'll all probably be trickling across the border looking for work.

To Mexican from Indian wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:47 AM:Spain held California, or didn't you read history? Then Mexico claimed ownership for a couple of years, after a war with the Independent Californios, then America came through. There were no treaties to break, none were given, but the US in the form of the State of California paid off the indigenious peoples of CA for the land in the 60's. The Californios, who were descendants of many cultures and who wanted no part of Mexico. Mexicans never owned squat.

Its unfortunate that politicos are filling the Mexican people with false history.

Maybe I should have named this post "Ask a Kumeyaay".

ICE Wont do their job wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:52 AM:For those who think ICE will do anything, you are wrong. We had one house of a known Coyote in our neighborhood last for several years with many complaints and they did nothing. He finally foreclosed and took his business somewhere else. He was an illegal too. Why do we know this? The other illegal day laborers complained about his human slavery. No one cares about this exploitation.

Currently we have another house that seems to specialize in bringing over women and childrne. Many neighbors have complained. They even have illegal businesses and have made many illegal modification to their house. ICE does nothing. It took 2.5 yrs for code enforcement to show up after many many complaints about septic overflowing and illegal electrical that could burn our neighborhood down, and so far nothing...

Meanwhile the white neighbor was harrassed about a perfectly legal fence, and took several months of harrassment before Code Enforcement finally backed down.

Its very disturbing.

a brand new day wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:40 AM:Let's stop all the anti-everything sentiment and figure out how to educate ourselves about the pros and cons of these issues. Too many emotional responses and not enough critical analysis in these posts. The truth about the flow of immigration to CA is there are not enough of us (especially in O'side, military personnel exempted) who are willing to work 10 or 12 hours a day, on our feet, before being eligible for OT and with no eligibility for vacation days or pd sick days. how many nurseries and farms do we have out here? how many friends/acquaintances of yours work in them? and please, don't tell me it's because "they" took the jobs first. truth is, it's more like we never went to apply in the first place.

To Mexican wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:59 AM:I doubt " we will be in office in mass numbers".

Cant We Just Get Along wrote on Oct 22, 2008 1:13 PM:How can you be so mean to these poor people, just because they steal jobs, social security numbers, identities, your tax money and take explanatorily more out of the system than they could possibly put in.
You are all just mean spirted and don't want to share.
If a dollar when spent represents 3 Dollars to the economy and half of their wages or govenment assistance are being sent to the mother country. How does this benefit all you ugly selfish Americans. How many Billions are now being lost ...? What would be the taxes generated on lets say 60 billion?
Now I want to move to Mexico and do to them what their doing to us and after I get out of prison if I live through it they will deport me.

MVet wrote on Oct 22, 2008 1:39 PM:QUESTION : In Mexico, what do their citizens get when they ask their goverment for better Schools and Medical care?

ANSWER : A Map To California.

To Mexican wrote on Oct 22, 2008 1:42 PM:Read California history. Pio and Andre Pico couldn't surrender fast enough. (Pio was the last Mexican Govenor of California)
Here are a couple names for you to look up Forster,Rowland, Livermore, Dickey,
Neal and Lassen just to name a few.
Additionally you may want to play down the whole white thing because hispanic is considered white. Peace be with you brother.

Skip wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:07 PM:Does anyone see the irony in the situation where the Mexican Consular cards are not accepted as a valid ID in Mexico, but here in the United States these cards can be used to obtain U.S. bank accounts and Individual Tax Identification Numbers (ITINs) and thus enter the U.S. credit market.

grj wrote on Oct 22, 2008 5:16 PM:start buying more busses and shipping them home and charge them a fee, they seem to have plenty of cash(LOL)

jvc wrote on Oct 22, 2008 7:18 PM:There is no human the color of white in any race or country!

Speaking of Hispanic wrote on Oct 22, 2008 8:48 PM:California, San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Escondido, Vista, San Marcos, La Jolla, San Luis Rey, etc.

What do all the above have in common? Why, they are all words in the Spanish language. Enough already with the racism! The Mexican Consulate must obey all laws in order to exist in the United States; how would you like to lose your passport in a foreign country and not have your embassy available? The only "crimes" reported were jaywalking? And your proud of this? Go home, San Diego Hate Mongers. We don't need you. The Oceanside Police Department works well with Federal and other regional law enforcement agencies.

funny wrote on Oct 23, 2008 12:02 AM:how this story gets a lot of comments, yes because it involves illegal immigrants, yeah i know they broke laws, etc. don't blame them, blame our own government for accepting them into programs that are meant for US citizens and legal aliens,WIC, Walfare, etc. maybe a lot of the administrators of those programs should get fired.. and stop thiking that every brown looking person with mexican characteriztics is illegal, maybe those who are legal should wear a hat that says "I'm legal"so people can stop stereotyping....

TO MVet From senior citizen wrote on Oct 23, 2008 12:07 AM:I don't know about you but everytime i need GOOD IMMIDEATE health care I go to Tijuana, I get specialists great doctors and it costs me less than half of what i would pay here in So-Cal, and i get WAY better service than i do here in LESS than 20 minutes

Dumb Question ----- wrote on Oct 23, 2008 6:34 AM:Why is it that when someone stands up to protect and enforce the laws of our country they are called "Racists", "extremists", "bigots", etc. --- But when someone encourages people to not only break the law but, offers help to do so and aid to continue to do so, -- they are called "Activists"??????

Bobby wrote on Oct 23, 2008 10:17 AM:Dumb Question, I'll tell you why. Sometimes the most obvious answers are right in front of our nose. I used to wonder about this question, just as you do, and I found the answer to my satisfaction. To wit, "Why is it that wnen someone stands up to protect and enforce the laws of our country they are called Racists, extremist, bigots, etc.......

Answer: Because these labels "WORK".
Calling someone "racist" WORKS, FOR THE LIBERAL AGENDA. Calling someone "bigot",works for LA RAZA's agenda.Calling some "extremist"(vigilante) works for President Bush and the elites, to carry out their agenda.

All of these groups agendas are evil, do not consider the American citizenry and for so many reasons are SICK. If Americans don't get immune to these "labels" and fast, they will continue to be used against Americans, and Americans will lose their nation. Sorry, but if this isn't obvious by now , you must be an ostrich.

To funny wrote on Oct 24, 2008 2:09 PM:DO YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE ILLEGAL YOU CAN'T GET WELFARE? HOW IGNORANT CAN SOME AMERICAN BE NOT TO KNOW THAT WELFARE IS DISBORSED ONLY TO REGISTERED AMERICAN CITIZENS??

AND BY THE WAY THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE IN WELFARE ARE ALL NATIVE CALIFORNIANS. EVEN MEXICANS KNOWS THIS AND THEY ARE NOT EVEN FROM HERE!

To Indian wrote on Oct 25, 2008 9:23 AM:Give us all a break with your input. Again, you and the mexs lost CA. Now the "Kumeyaay Way" is free handouts from the govt. Nice reservation we should take more taxes from you free loaders.

You too should have fought harder....Thanks but you lost too.

To To Funny wrote on Oct 25, 2008 9:29 AM:First learn to spell smart guy. Second a free check from the govt is "welfare" just called something else.

Bobby wrote on Oct 25, 2008 2:51 PM:Speaking of Hispanic, says Americans should allow Mexican foreign illegal nationals to get away with their illegal crap because of some alleged hispanic connection with names like, Los Angeles, California, Vista, San Luis, San Francisco,etc.

SO WHAT!!! SO WHAT!!
There are places in this nation like Bismark,North Carolina,(german name),New Orleans,(french name),Canton(chinese name), New England(british name), Memphis(Egyptian name) etc. and thousands of more examples from almost every nation on earth.

This is exactly the point some of you Mexicans can't comprehend. We are a nation of multiple peoples, called Americans, not hispanics, mexicans, or any of your other fantasies that are only going to backfire on you sooner or later. Believe me! Stop your arrogant lawbreaking and feelings of supremacy in this nation. People are sick of it.

A lot of talk here wrote on Oct 25, 2008 10:43 PM:What will Americans really do? Not one thing! This is Mexico! Got it!