MUST HAVE PROP O wrote on Oct 27, 2008 10:20 PM:Boy oh boy....if this NC Times fact finding article shouldn't be THEE rousing endorsement of why people in San Marcos should overwhemingly vote YES on Prop. O , I don't know what would be. How telling!

Our "appointed lady" Council person is spending the most money to be elected for what would be the very first time. This, when she has never won an election of any sort in her entire life. You'd never know that from the professional broschure that was sent out. Giving her credit from curing the traffic problem to building parks. But she's only been in office a few months. Very curious....but again, telling.
Now why would someone want so badly to be in that warm Council seat again that they would spend more than $16,000 to do so when the job pays only $650 a month? Hmmm!

And why would an old retired builder step in and use thousands of his own money to run newspaper ads IN FAVOR of Prop. O? If anyone knew the truth as to how developers find the ways to cozy up to the Boys in The Back Room at City Council Chambers; wouldn't it be an accopmplished builder? Sure it would.

This coupled with the disgusting smere campaign launched against these honest local business owners. Shameful.
The good people that put this excellent effort together make me want to call them today to find out what I can do to volunteer my help for the final few days. This, to ASSURE that these ...trying to strong arm control of City Hall's established General Development Plan are hamstrung with Prop. O for as long as it takes them to conform to the will of the people...not the developers.

VOTE YES ON PROP. O !

Forest wrote on Oct 27, 2008 11:48 PM:Del Mar has a slow-growth initiative too! Nobody wants to talk about Del Mar’s initiative. The city of Del Mar's will have on the ballot in Nov for Del Mar residents, Proposition G.

Proposition G is a very large mixed use project/development – and it has to go before the voters in November due to Del Mar’s slow-growth initiative that was adopted in 1986. But nobody wants to talk about that.

Del Mar's city council fully supports the voters privilege to vote on projects, such as that which Prop G proposes. But, nobody wants to talk about that.

HELLO!! NOONE wants to talk about Del Mar's slow-growth initiative adopted in 1986!! The initiative that Del Mar's council SUPPORTS!! IMAGINE THAT!!!

Speculators are more interested in bashing Prop O by whatever means necessary! If that involves inviting the Mayor & one councilmember from Escondido to bash Escondido, its people and Prop S...then so be it! If that involves completely ignoring the successes of Del Mar and Poway - cities with slow-growth initiatives - then so be it. I guess Speculators believe "anything goes" in order to support the Machine.

Speculators don't want to talk about Del Mar's SLOW-GROWTH INITIATIVE (adopted 1986) nor do speculators want to talk about Poway's SLOW GROWTH INITIATIVE (adopted 1988).

It's more important to speculators to "get theirs" – after all, they have little regard (if any) for the ACTUAL RESIDENTS of the cities they affect (or is that "infect"). Speculators are like an infection...their agenda is to spread, grow, fester in the most vulnerable places (i.e. those without slow-growth initiatives).

Vote Yes on Prop O

Does your council respect your intelligence? Look at Del Mar and Poway and see the forest for the trees (i.e. voters/residents DO indeed have brains).

Thanks to all wrote on Oct 28, 2008 6:38 AM:It is obvious that big business and government have a huge stake in defeating Prop O. It makes me wonder why ? Why wouldn't they want the people to have a voice in projects that go outside of the General Plan ? Easy. They would NOT want it, but they SHOULD. The voice of the people should only make projects better, definitely not worse. And why would the proponents of Prop O and all of the volunteers spend thousands of hours for its passage. It isn't money, so it must be for the good of all. Those same folks have championed Prop N to protect our ridgelines, since nobody else is. For the people of San Marcos. Vote Yes on O and on N. Thanks to all that support them.

Hardly a War Chest wrote on Oct 28, 2008 6:43 AM:The proponents (ProtectSanMarcos.com) have less than $10,000. I'd hardly consider that a "war chest" I guess it could be a headline error? Ya think?

Carter wrote on Oct 28, 2008 8:35 AM:You got it wrong NCT - in paragraph 2 above, you wrote that, "- - -Proposition O, which would require voter approval for development projects that would exceed building limitations in a growth plan created for San Marcos in the 1970s."
Actually Prop O is like this, from the 'Sample Ballot & Voter Information Pamphlet' issued by the County of San Diego Registrar of Voters:
"PROP O
Shall an ordinance be adopted amending the San Marcos General Plan to require voter approval of certain general plan amendments modifying or changing land use categories of designations?"
When Prop O is accepted by the citizens of San Marcos, the City Council must write an ordinance to amend the City Plan which will require a vote by the citizens of San Marcos when building proposals are put forth that will require zoning changes and the like.
Thus far our current crop of city officials have indicated that they are sure "they" will not write a good ordinance, according to what "they" have said.
A properly written amendment to the General Plan, by the future City Council, will assure that seldom will changes have to be submitted to the citizens of San Marcos for voter approval.
One thing is for sure, the current crop of city officials are backing the Developers, realtors, and NCT I might add,(let me refer you to the editorial NCT printed a week or so ago backing the opponents of Prop O,) that want to change the zoning codes, and run amuck building and taking profit as they see fit, with disregard for the wishes of the citizens of San Marcos.
THE CITIZENS OF SAN MARCOS NEED OVERSIGHT OF FUTURE CHANGES TO ZONING AND SUCH WITHIN THE CITY. PROP O WILL PROVIDE THAT with very little effort if done right.
VOTE YES ON PROP O. DON'T LET SAN MARCOS BECOME THE SLUMS OF THE FUTURE!

Vote No on O wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:25 AM:Join the city council, CSUSM, chamber of commerce, fire figthers and all common sense organization in the city and vote no on this initiate.

--SM Citizen

Don wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:45 AM:It's good news that in some City Councils in the San Diego accept that citizens have a right to vote on the direction of growth in their own cities. They understand how real democracy works.

Too bad the San Marcos City Council in its draconian ways, thinks they are smarter than the public and insults us with their threats and advertising blitz to our peril.

Vote Yes on Prop. O and let the San Marcos Mayor and City Council get a reality check on the real pulse of we, the people, of San Marcos, California.

Don

YOU GOT MY YES wrote on Oct 28, 2008 10:02 AM:The backing of Proposition O has become the single most important thing in the history of San Marcos as I see it now.

Looking past all of the slick and expensive media campaign against it just fuels my resolve that it's the right thing to vote YES on.

2 Carter wrote on Oct 28, 2008 10:31 AM:If Prop O passes, San Marcos will most certainly become the "slums of the future" because the only thing that gets a pass from the expense of a general election is "affordable housing." And we all want San Marcos to become the affordable housing capital of the county, don't we?

One Year Terms wrote on Oct 28, 2008 10:35 AM:Did Mr. Zillox really advocate for city council terms of one year? Now he supports Yes on O? This guy must really, really, really love elections. You folks tired of election season, campaign signs, etc? Vote for Prop O and we can do this once or twice a year!

Yes on O wrote on Oct 28, 2008 12:19 PM:The reason why alot of people moved to San Marcos is for the beauty of the surrounding area and the low crime rate.

The city of San Marcos has allowed building to get way out of control, just for the sake of tax revenue. There are currently several brand new office buildings being built all over the city, and by the looks of things there is noone stepping up to fill them. Soon they will begin to fall apart due to lack of maintanence, and become an eyesore. We the citizens of San Marcos must force the city to reduce the amount of construction that they have been allowing and enjoy the community we currently have.

I mean heaven forbid the riverwalk project doesn't get built where will we go to eat? How about the 50 restuarants already here.

another Yes on O wrote on Oct 29, 2008 3:29 PM:It’s very simple, the no on o financial backers are few with deep pockets and much to gain. We are talking about nearly 1 billion (yes that’s a B) in construction projects that will fill only a few pockets and put hundreds of local business out of business.

When was the last time we saw almost $200,000 in campaign contributions to support our current council members and their initiatives? These contributions are not from the people of San Macros but from organization that benefit from the results of huge construction projects in San Marcos. What is the incentive for a person to invest $11,000 of their own money to seed there campaign to get elected? If you did not financially support either of the incumbents or Prop O then you should not vote for them. If you are interested in having a say in what happens to your city then go to the supporters of Yes on Prop O and give them money and then tell your friends and then vote yes on Pro O on November 4th.