Quarry wrote on Oct 29, 2008 10:16 PM:Has the quarry area been considered? There are already high tension power lines there.

Power for Carlsbad wrote on Oct 29, 2008 10:34 PM:I've lived in Carlsbad over 25 years and have no problem with the existing powerplant or the proposed plant. Better than houses or another resort. Bring on the power!

marilyn wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:43 AM:Surely you mean the southWESTERN end of the Lagoon.

C-bad believer wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:26 AM:i was blown away by the photo-simulations in that flyer we got in the mail yesterday. that was nothing close to what the applicant had shown to the public last year, it has the bulk and scale of hoover dam and is actually uglier thant the existing facility - it's a tonka toy on crack! c'mon - dig a deeper pad and employ some adequate landscaping, otherwise c-bad will not be known for lego-land, but for the landmark of concrete monstrosity

CPO USN-Ret wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:40 AM:Don't need the power plant? Are you going to stop using electricity so we don't have brown-outs, going off the grid? I doubt it. Whatever they build won't look any worse than what exists and stacks aren't going to be as high as the existing landmark stack. This entire thing is proof that someone is going to snivel about anything.

Not in my back yard! If Carlsbad has become so elete that they don't want a power plant or other "ugly" industrial buildings, let's build it in a nearby city and deny the Carlsbad elitists any use of generated electricity. See how far that one fly's!

Matt wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:07 AM:I don't mind the plant where it is. Just do not put anymore development there! If it is moved, use that for open space (not more beach parking or homes). Our "master plan" calls for more open space. Stick to the plan!

Another Side wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:39 PM:As part of the Carlsbad Project, existing steam boiler Units 1, 2, and 3 at the Encina Power Station will be retired. The retirements will occur upon the successful commercial operations of the new Carlsbad Project generating units. The retirements will create substantial environmental benefits, including permanent air emission reductions from the boiler units; elimination of the 225 million gallons per day of cooling water (seawater) intake capacity for Units 1-3 and the resulting decrease in impingement and entrainment of marine organisms attributed to those unit's cooling water flow; cessation of discharge of wastewaters to the Pacific Ocean from Units 1-3; and elimination of the use of potable water attributed to the existing operation of Units 1-3.

Dangerous Ammonia wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:44 PM:Does anyone realize that power plants need truck and/or train loads of hazardous ammonia. The ammonia reduces NOx (which creates acid rain). The wind blows onshore most of the time, I'd be concerned with a plan to evacuate large parts of Carlsbad if there was an accident or terrorist attack.

FTM wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:18 PM:Units 1, 2, and 3 are tiny little General Electric 90 megawatt units used a 'peakers' during high use times. The big mama is the 300 megawatt Westinghous Frame 5 sitting in UNIT 4. THAT is the major hot water heater of the SD coast and it runs 24/7/365 ! !
If you looking to make a case for the biggest air polluter your culprit is unit 4; The biggest fossil fuel fired bird killer on the coast next to the South Bay Power Plant in CV. Encina and South Bay TOGETHER only generate a MAXIMUM of 500 megawatts each for a total of 1000 in the rare case that you can get all 8 units running at the same time.
If you want a good look at the future of clean energy that has not killed ANY birds look at San Onofre - San Onofre emits ZERO CARBON and generates THREE THOUSAND (yes, 3,000) megawatts of power from ONE UNIT! If they ever fired up both unit 2 AND 3 at San Onofre at the same time it would be SIX THOUSAND MEGAWATTS OF POWER! That's a good return for ZERO CARBON FOOTPRINT.
That is the future.
That is already the reality in other countries, but ignorance and fear in our country prevents it here.

San Onofre Facts wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:28 PM:Hey FTM, I appreciate your pro-nuclear voice. I believe in nuclear too, and want you to have the right facts. Go to the San Onofre fact sheet ( ... ) and you will see "Units 2 and 3 are currently in use and are capable of producing enough power to serve the needs of 2.75 million households (that is, 2,254 megawatts of power)." And, we need everyone who supports Encina to show up at the Carlsbad meetings!

FTM wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:05 AM:They say units 2 and 3 are "in use" because unit 1 has been decommissioned.

They are only running one unit at a time. One unit is 3000 megawatts.

They serve the needs 2.75 million housholds but they have a much greater capacity than that.

The total possible output of the plant if they did run both units 2 and 3 (which would be very rare) is almost 6000 megawatts.

As you can understand, you don't make customers rely on one plant because it's costly to run a plant at full capacity (any plant) even Encina rarly runs all 4 units but you never put all your eggs in one basket because a shutdown would blacken half of the state if you depended on the full power output of one plant. That's why we get brownouts - it's caused when all the units at all three plants are at full power trying to meet peak power demand. The infrastructure we have can't handle the stress of that much power and things WILL break and do.

San Onofre Facts wrote on Nov 4, 2008 1:49 PM:Hey FTM, you are WRONG. SCE runs both Unit 2 and Unit 3 at the same time, except when one unit is being refueled. Each unit is about 1100 megawatts, NOT 3000 megawatts. Check out the SCE web site for yourself.