OCEANSIDE: Chavez rejects Minutemen endorsement
Mayoral candidate says he never sought group's backing
By EDWARD SIFUENTES - Staff Writer | ∞
OCEANSIDE ---- Mayoral candidate Rocky Chavez this week rejected an unexpected endorsement from the San Diego Minutemen, a group that has made a name for itself in North County by protesting day laborers and illegal immigrants.
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"I've not requested an endorsement from the Minutemen," he said, adding that he doesn't support the group or its tactics.
Chavez was previously a member of El Grupo Sin Nombre, a Latino leadership and networking organization. More recently, the group ---- now named El Grupo ---- has become one of the leading critics of the San Diego Minutemen.
San Diego Minutemen founder Jeff Schwilk said earlier this week that he did not meet with Chavez about the endorsement and that it was based on "recommendations from folks we know in Oceanside who are politically active and concerned about illegal immigration."
On its Web site, the group lists candidates in several races that it supports in the Nov. 4 election including Oceanside City Council candidates Jack Feller and Jim Gibson.
The list of endorsements includes prominent local Republican representatives and candidates, such as U.S. Reps Brian Bilbray, R-Solana Beach, and Darrell Issa, R-Vista; Assemblyman Martin Garrick, R-Carlsbad; and Escondido Councilmen Ed Gallo and Sam Abed.
Told that Chavez did not want his endorsement, Schwilk said simply: "That's up to him what he wants to say."
He confirmed that Chavez had not sought his endorsement.
Asked if Chavez's comment gave him second thoughts, Schwilk said Monday that it did not.
"We’re sticking with it, absolutely," he said, about the endorsement.
However, on Thursday the Minutemen's Web site said the group's support for Chavez had been withdrawn.
Chavez said Monday he had been asked about the endorsement by some community members. He said he believed the endorsement was a ploy by his political opponents to sabotage his campaign.
"I'm trying to put together a moderate coalition for the city," Chavez said. "I did not request or want (Schwilk's) endorsement."
Staff writer Craig TenBroeck contributed to this story.
Contact staff writer Edward Sifuentes at (760) 740-3511 or esifuentes@nctimes.com.
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Good job Rocky wrote on Oct 27, 2008 6:10 PM:I usually do not agree with Rocky, but I respect him for another stand he took. He wanted to keep the god reference off the wall of council chambers. He took heat for it, but he was right, it was divisive. Feller had no problem making political hay out of that sideshow.
Rocky Chavez YES, Jack "sandwich boy" Feller NO
Frida wrote on Oct 27, 2008 6:36 PM:I was never a fan of Chavez, but good call on this one. Extremists are not good for political endorsements.
Greg in Oceanside wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:54 AM:Why would Chavez allow an endorcement from the Minutemen when he was a member of El Grupo? Sort of ridiculous if you ask me!
Which leads me to wonder whether Rocky is concerned about illegal aliens in our community?
Guess that means wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:03 PM:So I guess that means that Rocky and Esther are pro-illegal immigration and Feller and Gibson are pro anti-illegal immigration. The KFC side has the TV ads that purport Esther is pro illegal immigration. They need to put the Rock on that tv ad too. Fair is Fair Airport group.
Good Job Rocky wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:08 PM:I have always had great respect for Rocky Chavez. I disagree with him about alot of things but he always seems to have taken the whole community into consideration and he makes and informed vote. I can't say the same for his political allies on the council.
Bucky wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:10 PM:Rocky is almost as divisive as Esther, almost. His opinion that all Oceanside High Grads will be burger flippers is still remembered. Rocky thinks he is always right abd would make a lousey mayor. He hasen't really been much of a councilman. DUMP ROCKY !
No Rocky wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:37 PM:A mayor needs to have a more even temperament. Rocky may be tough on gangs but it is only a matter of time before he does something that will cost the city millions. As for the Minutemen, my understanding is that they support securing our borders and working with law enforcement to keep our communities safe from criminal illegal aliens. How can he not support these ideals? I'll take Woods, straight up, hold the Rocks!
Playing both sides... wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:19 PM:Rocky is all things to all the people. Chavez just kicked the Minutemen endorsement to the curb. He just got caught Playing both sides...
His name has been on the Minutemen website for years. I guess he has had a change of heart?
Sinverguenza wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:45 PM:Jeff Schwilk where is your pride man? He doesn't want your endorsement!! Geez what does the man have to do to make you understand? It is not good for politicians to align themselves with groups that our own President refers to as vigilantes!!! Good going Rocky, save yourself.
Wayne wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:56 PM:Who cares what Rocky thinks. I lost respect for him long ago. Yeah, he's a former Marine and that should be respectful enough, however, he doesn't play nice with many of the professionals I have and currently work with. He talks and acts like he is above everyone else. Especially the great professionals who work at Miracosta, huh Rocky??? Besides, I stand by the Minutemen anyways. The Minutemen will be just fine without Rocky's endorsement.
Oside voter wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:11 PM:I will be voting for GIBSON, GIBSON and GIBSON. Also feller. and maybe...most likely wood? I will have to think about that again. How about no one for mayor?
I guess wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:20 PM:it is extreme to try and protect our borders for us and our children in some peoples eyes. Hang tough Minutemen. It is the cowards who have given this country up and make excuses for law breakers.
FTM wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:46 PM:I am voting for Jim Wood. Not because I don't like Rocky, I like Rocky but I don't think he is quite ready for Mayor yet. And besides, if Rocky loses the Mayor race he will still be on the council so everything will be just fine if Rocky loses because then we get to keep both Rocky AND Jim Wood.
Wood has been a good and professional mayor and he is endorsed by the North County Times.
In two years Rocky will get elected to the council again and Jim Wood will probably make him deputy mayor again.
You all vote whatever way you want, all the candidates are excellent EXCEPT SANCHEZ! That one has got to go!
Wayne 2 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:16 PM:Who cares what Jeff Schwilk thinks. I lost respect for him long ago. Yeah, he's a former Marine and that should be respectful enough, however, he doesn't play nice with many of the professionals I have and currently work with. He talks and acts like he is above everyone else. Besides, I stand by the Rocky Chavezanyways. Rocky Chavez will be just fine without the minutemen's endorsement.
jvc wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:31 PM:You don't want these people here then don't give them your cheap labor jobs!
Hilarious wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:32 PM:Rocky has known about this endorsement for a long time. He's just making news for his very poorly run campaign in the hopes of picking up a vote or two. However, it makes him look like he's pro illegal immigrant. Best laugh I had all day. See Rocky, it DOES come back to bite you when you act like an ex-Marine.
Character wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:46 PM:I will give Rocky credit; he stands up for what he believes. I saw him stand by his word at a public meeting in Jefferies Ranch over the Melrose Extension. Unusual to see a politician stand up and be counted.
Moderate coalition wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:46 PM:Once again Chavez is trying to fool us. He is already part of a coalition: Chavez, Feller and Kern; they are not moderate, look at their voting records. They are power hungry people with extreme views and promoters of a free for all pillage of Oceanside by developers and business like Mitsubishi, majority owner of Robertson cement plant.
Enough of this Troika!
FTM wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:48 PM:Poor Rocky, he get's no respect. He really is a nice guy, but i don't think he's gonna be elected mayor. I know about the ceent plant stuff, but what els was it that got some people really mad at Rocky? I can't remember.
Rocky Two Face wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:11 PM:Rocky rejects the Minutemen? What a joke. They have supported him for a long time now. This must be Rocky's other personality talking. I'm voting Wood for mayor and lithium for Rocky
What do you stand for Chavez wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:14 PM:You can't have it both ways. You have played the double standard game for too long, now you got caught.
Rockys Not Like Feller Gibson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:19 PM:I think it is wise for Rocky to separate himself from Feller and Gibson. These are the guys that helped him get the endorsement not the opposition. These two radical, far right, extremists, don't deserve Rocky's support. The fact that Feller and Gibson go out of their way to work with and court extreme groups like the Minutemen and Prop 8 demonstrate how unfit for city council they truly are. They put their radical views first and are clearly unable to professionally represent the diverse community they hope to be elected by. (i.e. Gibson's request the school board endorse Prop 8!)
Feller & Gibson don't deserve your vote. The special interest money has bought them enough airtime and mudslinging to last Oceanside a lifetime. Get rid of dirty politics and politicians in Oceanside. VOTE WOOD & Lowery!
Peter wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:20 PM:Rocky is a joke - full of double speak. This man and his political consultant aide at city hall work both sides of the fence. He seems to think we don't know that. Give it up Rocky.
Pirate wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:26 PM:Take the man at his word. The trouble with politics today is all we want to do is bash those who serve in public office. This happens on both sides. The constant negative mailings from the firefighter union is mostly personal and misleading. We would be better off if we voted for or against someone because of their stand of the issues.
Angie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:34 PM:Rocky you just lost my vote!! El Grupo is a very extreme open borders group whose leader thinks illegals should be "ignored" and that Driver's license checkpoints are racist. And he was a sheriff!!
You blew this one Rocky!! Supporting illegals will bancrupt our city.
Cherise wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:19 PM:I agree, you lost my vote Rocky! Why would you support illegal immigrants over American Citizens?
JAS wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:44 PM:OH MY! What is our country coming too. Sure some of the Minutemen's tactics are abrassive, but in order to get attention about a SERIOUS problem you have to be forthecoming in ways liberals don't like. Illegals bring cheap labor, lower the value of services, products, & neighborhoods. They funnel money, not here in the country where they are breaking the law, but to their pathetic place they call home, Mexico. Until I see them invest more into my beautiful country other than cheap hotel/field work/etc labor I will back off support for the Minutemen. My Marine husband doesn't defend this country for pathetic law breaking illegals who don't pay our wages, so go Minutemen!!! You don't need Rocky. Millions hear your mission & support it.
Dont you guys see what might begoing on wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:44 PM:Lets say you have a group who are suspicious of anyone of Latino descent; and lets say they really don't like the idea of a Latino being elected or reelected to office.
Now lets add the probability that if a candidate with a Latino name is running in a community with a large Latino populaton, his chances are good at the polls.
However,if a phoney pretense to drive Latinos from voting for the Hispanic candidate can be advanced, those votes may be taken away, and the Latino candidate losses!
So, the group who has no use of Latinos, and is regarded by many in the Hispanic community as being against them, makes a bogus endorsment of the candidate.
Now the Latino voters are turned off by the candidate because they buy the lie that he is endorsed by the guys in the tin foil hats, and the rightwing activists win!
Gotta love, America!
Bye bye Rocky wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:13 PM:The Minutemen provide a much needed service to the citizens of Oceanside and beyond. We DON'T need or want Rocky or anyone else who supports illegal alien law-breakers. Is that clear El Grupo?
Confused wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:30 PM:"Chavez said he has been asked about the issue by some community members. He said he believes the endorsement was a ploy by his political opponents to sabotage his campaign." WHAT does that mean? He's been endorsed for years! Did Feller and Gibson talk him into it? But I thought he was their ally? Chavez has had Feller and Gibson signs on his truck for months. To tell you the truth, I really don't think Rocky knows, at any one time, WHAT he is supposed to be about. He says one thing to one group, and another thing to another. You're caught, Rocky! You stand for NOTHING! I wish you'd go back to Los Angeles. You didn't even LIVE in Oceanside before you decided to run. Signed -- OHS grad, NOT a burger flipper!
Joe wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:46 PM:Dont you guys see what might begoing on
[-] wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:44 PM:
-No I don't see, because the party you are referring to is a member of the Republican party and a Republican is considered as right wing!
Of course Rocky is supportibe of giving America away wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:39 PM:He wants our borders open!
Step Down Rocky wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:43 PM:Please do the honorable thing and step down before you bring more embarrassment upon yourself or our city.
knows the truth wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:46 PM:The mailer received today attacking Mayor Jim Wood was full of inaccuracies and lies. His paycheck is nowhere near what the Mayor of Los Angeles makes - $205,661 a year. Mayor Wood is paid $150 more a month than the $1,600 a month councilmembers make. The raises in fees for water and trash are increased annually according to the Consumer Price Index. Vehicle license fees are approved by the state so how can a city Mayor raise the fees?
This mailer was an obvious ploy by Mayor Wood's political opponent, Rocky Chavez, to discredit him. Too bad he didn't do his homework.
Adios Rocky wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:07 PM:Thanks for clearing up that nagging question about groups you support and groups you don't. Wood, Feller, Gibson.
Viva la raza?
The Real Wood wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:50 PM:Jim Wood is the choice of the Minutemen; he will be endorsed soon. Will NCTimes report this? Will Lowery and Esther stand-by their "candidate"?
Chavez is a joke wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:05 PM:the mission statement of El grupo talks about
"economic equality of disenfranchised people in North San Diego County".
Did El Grupo know that Chavez votes for the rich and the corporations and not the disenfranchised?
He must have tricked El Grupo like he has tricked the people of Oceanside.
Vote Wood!
Enough of Rocky wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:24 PM:I have had enough of Chavez, Feller, Kern and their friend Gibson. They only offer extreme views and no real solutions to the economical problems of Oceanside. Their believe in "no regulations for big businesses and developers" is the same believe that reigned at Wall Street for the last years and that has proven such a disaster for the country. VOTE THEM OUT before they drag Oceanside down like Chavez and Feller have done with the school and the sandwich shop.
Vote Wood, Sanchez and Lowery
So funny wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:33 PM:Months of lies used against Wood, Sanchez and Lowery have come back and bit you in your little Napoleonic derriere. Sweet!
John wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:49 PM:Rocky is pro immigration today and was anti-immigration yesterday. Which is the real Rocky? On second thought, why ask. Vote him out. Is he still a Marine????
Boring wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:54 PM:Know what ? I have head so much crap from both sides, I am going to Vote for myself. How bout that!
I have had enough of this, Thank God Nov. 4 is almost here. Don't forget to pick up those damn signs too when its all over with!!!!!!
Accusing SDMM of what wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:58 PM:Of working with Rocky's "political opponents"? Umm, yeah, SDMM secretly works with Sanchez and Lowery to flood Oceanside with illegals and embarass Rocky. Yeah, that's their scheme. Chavez is losing his mind with such outrageous conspiracy theories. They endorsed him because he pledged to crack down on gangs and crime, but I guess those were lies too. Rocky is more confused than Larry Craig!
Cmon Eddie wrote on Oct 31, 2008 12:27 AM:Tell the readers why SDMM "withdrew support" for Chavez! They don't support candidates with ties to radical Latino groups. That's also on their website, but Ed "forgot" to mention that. Such a tool.
Two faced Rocky wrote on Oct 31, 2008 12:55 AM:I remember Rocky being a strong anti-illegal immigrant advocate. Now he is a strong El Gruppo advocate for open borders.I would ask which is the real Rocky? Answer. He is anyone that he thinks can get elected.
see the light wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:08 AM:An excellent tactic on the Minute Men's part to get Rocky to show his true colors about illegal immigration.
His position on illegal immigration needed to be brought to light and this did it.
Thanks MM.
Mia wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:25 AM:WOOD has my vote! Rocky remember the section 8 complaint you did nothing about? Well Wood did do something about it. Guess who gets my vote?
Dirty Tricks wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:19 AM:Looks like Melba dirty tricks from years gone by. I am pleased Rocky Chavez saw this coming and the stance he is taking with subversive groups like this. What surprises me is that Minutemen did not endorse Wood.
Greg in Oceanside wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:24 AM:I am vehemently against El Grupo and illegal immigration and want them off the public dole and entitlements, off our streets, out of our communities, and ultimately deported.
I'm not voting for anyone who has (or had) any affiliations with any open-border, illegal alien advocacy organization such as El Grupo.
So this sort of narrows it down for my choice as mayor, doesn't it?
Sad we cannot do better than this wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:50 AM:I watched 5 minutes of the Oceanside mayoral debate. The moderator had to repeat the question for the candidates twice I have never seen this before. Judging by the answers they gave I had to conclude both candidates were probably functioning illiterates. i was embarrassed and shocked on how low Oceanside has gotten.
GOP supporter wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:12 AM:Gibson has been absolutely clear from day one about where he stands. Zero tolerance policy for gangs and anti-illegal immigration, no new taxes, bring good paying jobs to Oceanside. He has never wavered. Vote Jim Gibson for Oceanside City Council
FTM to Sad wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:33 AM:Your full of it. I saw the debate. Jim Wood has been very professional and has answered all questions in a professional manner. Rocky may have been a little stiff but he still answered all questions in a definative way obviously showing his passion and also his courage to TAKE A POSITION! You people slam these guys when they DON'T take a positions and then you slam them WHEN THEY DO!
Jim and Rocky are BOTH very good men and either would be a good mayor - I just think Jim would be better based on his performance over the past 4 years and the North County Times agrees - (check the endorsments) - AND NCT WANTS Rocky to STAY ON THE COUNCIL and so do I because Rocky is a good councilman! There is nothein wrong with the any of the leading candidates for Oceanside council. The only person that seems to have more enemies than friends AMONST THE RESIDENTS is Esther Sanchez. Esther has taken a long long road to get to where she is now and it's no secret that her entire philosophy is based on the old 1970's political attiudes of Melba Bishop. Oceanside has been trying to get free of that political baggage that Melba typified ever since and it hangs around our necks like dirty laundry embarrassing us all to the rest of the county. There is nothing wrong with liberal democrats or progressives or whatever you want to call them but we need PRAGMATIC leadership that GET'S THINGS DONE not IDEALISTIC fanatics that spend all day yapping about "how things should be" instead of taking care of the business at hand in a practical manner. Jim Wood is a labor democrat, but he is also PRAGMATIC. Terry Johnson was a social democrat, but he was PRAGMATIC. (Later he switched to republican because there were so many republicans that just could not vote democrate even though Terry was more conservative than mose republicans!)
I am a registered republican!! Does that mean I let them run my life an make all my decisions?? HELL NO! That's what's wrong with politics. If all democrats were that dumb we would have never had a great president like Ronald Regan!
Stop the partisan crap - Vote for PEOPLE, not PARTYS!.
Jack Feller is not the monster all you liberals are making him out to be. He is a good man who brings business to the city. WE NEED THAT TOO!
You people ON BOTH SIDES that use the broad brush to paint entire groups of candidates are just showing your ignorance. You can't think for yourself.
Not voting for Chavez wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:05 AM:not because he is Latino, but because he has shown to be a flip/flopper
Nicodemus wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:17 AM:Sorry, Rocky...you just lost four votes from this household, and probably more since my neighbors are also strong anti-illegal immigrants supporters.
GOP anyone wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:27 AM:GOP Supporter - you'll vote for anyone on the GOP ticket; no matter how bad. Gibby fits that bill. Come on, pry open that skull and think outside the automatic, robotic, "he's on the GOP ticket, so I'll vote for him" box. Brutal!
TO FTM wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:42 AM:Feller might be a good man but that does not make him a good councilman; Oceanside demographics are still the lowest among North County coastal cities, prove that high paying jobs have not been created by the current council controlled by Feller, Chavez, Kern. No to Feller, Chavez and Gibson they are too right wing extremist with no economical plan for Oceanside. Yes to Wood, Lowery and Sanchez.
J wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:46 AM:hey rocky walk away with your tail between your legs... your all talk, but no action.... BTW so is Esther to..
Posted for 5 days wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:19 AM:Wow, NCT! Your bias is truly shining through. What is is with you and especially Sifuentes. Based on the comments, you have have this posted for 5 days in your Top Stories. Is this really a top story?
You probably won't post this because it doesn't fit your "we love illegal alien" agenda.
Come on 5 days? News MUST be slow!!
To Rocky wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:40 AM:Psssttt, Rocky, I hear the Minutemen want to build a cement plant to help build the wall faster.
to Gibson wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:00 AM:Jim Gibson Zero tolerance policy for gangs and anti-illegal immigration, bring good paying jobs to Oceanside, and no new taxes. He very clear on what he stands for. I like that!
Did you forget wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:16 AM:That Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Many more were also Extremist. The Miniut Men Are doing what they feel needs to be done to protect America Why do you have a problem with that? do you want to live in a third world country ?
El Stupido wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:29 AM:Adios Rocky. I always wondered about you. You are no better than Jerry Sanders - telling the citizens you are against illegal immigration and telling the radical Latino groups that you support their pro-alien agenda. Thank God the Minutemen exposed you before I voted. I'm not crazy about Wood, but I'd much rather have him than someone who waffles on illegal immigration. And you were a Marine? Wow.
Rocky follows Sanders wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:44 AM:Because Rocky can't devise his own action plan for Oceanside. He follows others.
Sanders wants to privatize San Diego, Sanders is Republican and so Rocky's brain thinks Oh, I'll just follow Sanders....(and forgets the actual needs of all of Oceanside).
No to ROCKY!! for Lack of Good Plan(s)
Too Bad wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:47 AM:Rocky backed down on his vote for naming the Melba Bishop Park, remember that, now showing that he is not strong on our huge problem of Oceanside illegal immigration. What is Wood's position on the illegal immigration issue ????
Sifuentes wrote on Oct 31, 2008 12:06 PM:seems to have shot the messenger in this instance. Rocky proposed to NOT insult/alienate anyone by going after gangs and crime. Eddie twisted that (what a shock) and painted Rocky with the tainted brush of El Grupo. Now, like it or not, Rocky is "under the gun" from both sides of a very contentious debate. I prefer to view the records of the candidates, to see where they actually have stood, rather than buy into misrepresentation by Eddie.
kit wrote on Oct 31, 2008 12:24 PM:Why are you people surprised by Rocky's doublespeak? He also said that he wouldn't run for Mayor again and he didn't keep his word on that either. He has proven that he doesn't care about the City but only himself.
To Too Bad wrote on Oct 31, 2008 12:41 PM:E-mail woods at his web site!
He answered my question which was how do you stand on illegal immigration.
He said he is against illegal immigration.
Ask him.
Who Cares wrote on Oct 31, 2008 12:46 PM:I can't believe we are still talking about this!!! As far as I am concerned the Minutemen are all washed up!! They were nothing more than a flash in the pan!!! They are kaput! They are history! I just hope we learn from them and stop racist groups from hurting people before they get out of control like the Minutemen did. Rocky you are smart to disassociate from these guys. You don't want to be guilty by association.
Illegal Immigration wrote on Oct 31, 2008 12:58 PM:Is this really what some of you think is the major issue for Oceanside politics? Are you not disturbed that the California DEVELOPERS are working with the airport as proxy spending at least 4 to 1 what the UNION have spent trying to avoid privatization? Why would DEVELOPERS work so hard and spend so much money? Why would they spend big money on mailers targeting people for whom immigration is a hot button? It's a distraction! It's a sleight of hand trick. They want you to get riled up over this so they can buy the election for Feller & Gibson. Follow the money and notice all of the fenced in Feller & Gibson giant political signs on the pieces of land where the next ugly unit of high density houses are being built in your neighborhood. Wake UP! VOTE WOOD, LOWERY & SANCHEZ. You may not agree with them. I sometimes don't but I know they ARE NOT OWNED BY DEVELOPERS who will turn Oceanside into ANAHEIM!
Richard wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:04 PM:We were ready to support Rocky. However, now that we know that he supports illegal immigration and deny's the support of an American organization, the Minutemen,we will be voting for Woods while clinching our teeth. The Minuteman only want the laws of this country enforced. Two more lost votes, Rocky.
To Richard wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:38 PM:Are you kidding the Minutemen are NOT an AMERICAN organization! They do not represent America. They do not represent me. No sorry they are far from being American or standing up for American Values. Do you vote twice, man. Cheat, Cheat, Cheater!
The Laws of This Country wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:40 PM:Have been built in fear that people have a mind and can think for themselves and outside the box.
The laws of this Country need to be Re-Done, and get all discrimination out and fear of letting others reside here who want to work hard.
Our Country needs Immigration Reform. and NO ONE POLITICIAN IS DOING ANYTHING...to help the situation on both sides. That is wrong to all Parties...screaming.
NO to Rocky
So glad wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:46 PM:So very glad that Chavez opportunism is finally in the open for every body to see. Chavez and Feller stand only for themselves and are unfit to serve the City of Oceanside. Their negative campaign is paid by special interest groups from Los Angeles and Orange County; paid by Robertson Cement owned by Mitsubishi. These spacial interest groups want to squeeze as much money as they can out of Oceanside; they do not live here, they do not care about our home values, loss of jobs or our quality of life. Oceanside is their opportunity for Gold and they will leave town after they have taken all they can leaving behind the wreckage.
Take Oceanside back from lies and deceitful tactis; YES to WOOD, SANCHEZ. LOWERY.
How wrote on Oct 31, 2008 2:16 PM:does development lead to loss of home values, and jobs? How does an investor leave behind wreckage? Left wing lunatics can't understand that people, including Oceanside, want downtown redevelopment and the jobs that will bring. Feller, Kerns and Wood have done a great job starting this and the downtown area improves every day. In spite of Sanchez and Chavez, it seems.
To Rocky wrote on Oct 31, 2008 2:19 PM:If you did support the Minutemen and you choose not to any longer I don't see anything wrong with that. I was a supporter of their group. I participated in events and found some of their tactics distasteful and well wrong so I stopped all contact. People have the right to change their mind. That does not make you wishy-washy nor should you be called a flip-flopper I consider it intelligent and responsible. Good luck, Rocky you have my vote and the votes of my family.
ToIllegal Immigation wrote on Oct 31, 2008 2:23 PM:Illegal immigration is the #1 problem.
We will fix this first and everything else can come later.
Richard wrote on Oct 31, 2008 2:28 PM:It is sad to see how many writers responding to this article have so little knowledge of American laws and government as well as our country's traditions and morality. "We" means plural as in my wife and I.
To How wrote on Oct 31, 2008 3:18 PM:Yes, to a well planned development of Oceanside that benefits the citizens, brings high paying jobs and great quality of life. If you do not get the difference between "planning for the future" and "build what & where you want", you will never get how one or the other will effect your property value and jobs. Compare Oceanside & Carlsbad; maybe you will get what I am talking about. This is just Business 101, that you, Feller and Chavez do not seem to have much knowledge of.
To Richard wrote on Oct 31, 2008 3:36 PM:Oh Please!!! "our country's traditions and morality" Sadly our country has no traditions and those who bring their traditions to share with us are being disrespected. "MORALITY" we have lost our moral compass and the indignities we commit against others erodes our morality daily. I preceive it will get worse once this election is over. One would hope that we would come to our senses but I doubt it.
Yeah wrote on Oct 31, 2008 4:05 PM:look at the difference between Carlsbad and Oceanside. Oceanside's house values are about half of Carlbad, why? Because of the often decrepit downtown area. I've lived here 20 years and have seen a slow, planned, development of which I approve. There are also areas of crime and blight which I would love to see gone. I credit Feller for alot of this and blame Sanchez for the snail like progress. Chavez seems to go with the flow, certainly not a leader.
voters wrote on Oct 31, 2008 4:07 PM:poor rocky. and feller? Gibson should run from these guys as fast as he can. I am voting gibson and on one else.
Oceanside v. Carlsbad wrote on Oct 31, 2008 4:47 PM:Carlsbad has had the ability to create high paying jobs and an imagine of sophistication. Oceanside under the leadership of Wood, Sanchez and Lowery can do even better. With Feller, Chavez, Kern we will get more low paying service oriented jobs (like the cleaning jobs in the time share and the future hotel), concrete and asphalt plants. You choose!
Oside Voter wrote on Oct 31, 2008 4:50 PM:Chavez, Feller & Gibson are not running as a slate. The fire union has made them a slate to run against. Gibson thinks for himself. Rocky does not think about anyone but himself and feller does not think. Still they are better than Sanchez and Lowery.
Laws are fine wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:53 PM:Enforcement is the problem. IF the illegal alien only comes to America to do the work no American will, why do American taxpayers pay 100's of Billions of dollars a year for their support while they send billions "home"? Rocky, apparently is for the rule of law, against illegal aliens, yet was forced to take a "stand" in this instance, by ethno centrists like Sifuentes. against the Minutemen. Sadly, he probably just lost the Mayor spot. But Wood, who won't cater to those groups, will remain at the helm and hopefully do more to restore law and order to O'side and that includes ridding the city of illegals.
Endorsement itches wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:59 PM:When you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas!
If YOU need an endorsement to run for public office by a group like the Minutemen,you shouldn't be running.
Run on your own merit or not at all.
julie-SD local wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:08 PM:no, this is not only about helping secure our boarders. i understand that one would want to be protective of our land and keep tabs on who is on it, but to allow "illegal aliens" to die by dumping out water that is left for them on the arizona boarders is cruel. there is a right and a wrong and going over the line to make sure that these "illegals" don't make it, is clear and cut against humanism! the minuteman project are extremist not just helpers. i saw videos where they took it upon their own hands to put these poor men into their own cars to hold them for the immigration officers. how could it be legal to put your hands on these people as if they have the rights? they do not hold a badge or any superior right to this. that's why we have police and immigration officers hired. let them do their jobs. there are beaches to clean or something else. i also heard that the minuetman project stands outside of the grocery store in vista to harass people on their legal status. again, what right do they have. i saw in a video these same men in arizona where at the poles intimidating people on their legal status to vote! come on. couldn't they think of good productive things to do. live and let live! i do dream that the whit men that are like this would gain a higher understanding as to how much mexicans have already lost. mexicans were willing to share and now all of this land in america belongs to the united states after all the cruel punishment they have already suffered. mexicans are good people and they do not wish harm on other nationalities. leave them alone. they are innocent beings just trying to survive. this issue makes me feel so badly hurt. it's just flat out sad. white supremisist need further education on truth. peace, love, and many smiles to all. i hope your days are filled with positive moments.
to julie wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:55 PM:I would like to see the Minutemen take on some real hard criminals in our country like the Vicelords,Aryan brotherhood, Asian Boys, Conferderate Hammerskins ,the Nazi Lowriders,biker gangs and other gangs. I don't think the MM have the backbone to take on our own criminals, they would rather pick on the weak ones.If they really want to curb illegal activity, let them solve our problems within our own borders and let the BP and ICE take care of the border.
GigsUp wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:39 PM:Rocky, Sorry, you can't kowtow to both sides of an issue before you are discovered. Just a preview of what would be if Chavez were voted Mayor- disappointment all the way around. Please vote for Jim Wood- what you see is what you get.
All wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:54 PM:The MM are doing what has needed to be done.When an illegal who was deported three times kills an Oceanside police officer I raise an eyebrow. When another kills a woman in bathroom because he was afraid she would have him deported, again I raise my eyebrow.Once you vote to allow the National Guard to patrol the border along with the UNDERSTAFFED Border Patrol then I will say there is no need to MM. Right now, they are doing what they can to help.Don't people see, yes many are hard workers, but I have lived in their communities. They don't want to assimilate, they just want our money because it is worth more than the Peso and they send it back to their country and don't invest it in our economy (the one that live illegally in). Are you kidding me, if you were to try to immigrate to Mexico you are forced to learn the language while they treat you horribly and openly say they just want your money. Therefore, I believe in immigration that is beneficial to our country. Illegal immigration is not! It's taxing on our hospitals, law enforcement. Did you know the 95% of illegals who get a ticket, don't get arrested, show fake id, and never show up to court. BUT if that was an average American, a warrant would be issue and you'd get thrown in jail, but illegals answer the door and say no one lives there by that name. My dearest friend is a cop who deals with this frustration every day. NO TO ROCKY!
Julie wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:03 PM:Why don't you go spend a day with the Border Patrol, the hospital that is about to close down because of the illegals sucking up medical resources without paying, then go home with someone who worked at the hospital who just lost their job (Go to Texas to see this happening everyday). You know, survival is on everyone's agenda, but when people abuse the liberties that my husband fights for (He's a Marine), give me a van and I'll round em up. I don't work my butt off so someone can access everything free while they funnel all their money back to Mexico and then there are citizens being denied the welfare resources offered to keep them alive. I should know, I was denied welfare & medical due to me making too much. I was making $8.00 an hour without housing assistance and the Mexican family with 6 kids next to me rec'd WIC, foodstamps, and Medical.The Social Worker it is standard and that sadly our social system doesn't protect TAX PAYING Americans but illegals are allowed to live under the radar, keep having kids, and drain the financial resources. Me the taxpayer was denied something I pay into!!! Their country needs to take care of them, not mine. So if you feel so bad for them, move there and find a solution to their problems. It would definitely take the burden off us. Oh by the way, I'M NOT WHITE, I'M AMERICAN WITH ANCESTORY FROM MEXICO!!!!!
10 pieces of silver wrote on Nov 1, 2008 4:17 AM:Look, Rocky Chavez is a proud El Grupo member who understands the immigration issues from his own childhood. If the minute men feel betrayed? Get in line and VOTE. I will be in front of you Voting for Jim Wood.
to ALL wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:00 AM:Assimilation goes against human nature.Everyone is entitled to their own individuality.
If a person works, they earned their money even if they are here illegaly. I definitely don't think it's any of your business if I send my money to China or Mars when I worked for it.As a tax paying citizen I and others will do as we please with our money we WORKED for.
Oceansides always been a pit wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:48 PM:Before we could blame immigrants for the mess, it was Marines...between the two, the city is always going to be an enigma...a beachfront ghetto.
To Roberto1 wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:59 PM:what are you smoking, boy?
Chavez is the one who just committed political hari kari with his wild accusations about a political conspiracy from his "opponents". Rocky is having a poltical meltdown. The Minutemen are just doing what they do best - immigration watchdogs on our crooked and corrupt politicians who have gotten us into this immigration mess!
Viva La Raza, Roberto! The Reconquista is dead.
To to ALL wrote on Nov 1, 2008 2:30 PM:Part of the problem with this country is the attitude that, I will do whatever I want when it comes to my money. I will buy goods produced in China or wherever without a second thought to the fact that your foreign purchase just killed another US workers ability to keep a job in this country.
Wonder why all companies are shipping manufacturing overseas, it's your thoughtless purchase of foreign goods. The same can be said of people sending $$ they made in the US to foreign countries. That wealth should be kept in the US if you want your children to have any chance of acquiring a decent paying job in this country.
Toto ALL at 800am wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:46 PM:Part of the problem with this country is the attitude that, I will do whatever I want when it comes to my money. I will buy goods produced in China or wherever without a second thought to the fact that your foreign purchase just killed another US workers ability to keep a job in this country.
Wonder why all companies are shipping manufacturing overseas, it's your thoughtless purchase of foreign goods. The same can be said of people sending $$ they made in the US to foreign countries. That wealth should be kept in the US if you want your children to have any chance of acquiring a decent paying job in this country.
Escondido Council wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:28 PM:The minutemen endorsed Ed Gallo and Sam Abed for Escondido City Council - no rejections from those two.
Pirate 3 wrote on Nov 2, 2008 1:16 AM:Rocky was always the flipping candidate. Now he is the flopping candidate. Rocky pull out and lets have a clean race in Oceanside. PS I am a flipping Oceanside graduate.
Reject Chavez for Mayor wrote on Nov 3, 2008 10:16 AM:This is the reason why Rocky chavez needs to be REJECTED as Oceanside Mayor!!! do you really think he has Oceansides best at HEART, Rocky Chavez only has one intrest in mind, "His" his track record in years of City Council Member proves it. Although I have never been a real follower of Rocky Chavez his rejection of this issue is just nother reason why we should think real hard about TUESDAY!!!!!!
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