THE ONE wrote on Nov 13, 2008 12:22 PM:So... Let's see . A permit was issued by mistake? It's obvious that a city employee was not doing their job...again!

Obamanation wrote on Nov 13, 2008 12:57 PM:OMG Oside leaders are pathetically lame with weak excuses for denial. I hope the city gets sued.

About time wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:06 PM:And let's get those tattoo skin shops off Coast Hwy., poor element.

Great job wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:10 PM:Let's keep Oceanside clean and free of any business like this! Also when do we get rid of the Main Attraction! What an eye sore for the I-5 entrance to the city! Alond with those crack hole motels!

Amazing wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:04 PM:It's amazing these councilmembers can agree 5/0 on anything. This is a groundbreaking vote and will be the only one like it for 2 more years. Thanks anyway for the neighborhood's one shot at actually being listened too.

nate wrote on Nov 13, 2008 3:22 PM:you people bashing our city are ridiculous. The bad element tattoo parlors, massage parlors, strip clubs, barber shops.... who do these cater to, The military. That is why those businesses are their in the first place. you people do not want to get rid of the base do you? leave people alone. one person was arrested their. so what you can find that at any restaraunt.the city gave let them open and if they are paying their taxes leave them alone. if you dont like them dont go. if it wasnt for this article i would of never know this place existed. People need to keep their opionions to themselves. As far a Feller, why dont you replace it with a sandwhich shop

Leave Main Attraction Alone wrote on Nov 13, 2008 6:48 PM:Sure it could use some visual upgrades, but it's not that bad of a place. My husband and I go there now and again. It's fun. Maybe ya'll just need to get out a little bit more.

One More Down wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:02 PM:The Council listened to the neighbors who VISITED this shack and the Police Department activity report put the cap on the end of this dump. This owner stood there last night saying there was no problems with the Police until Jerry Kern announced the Police report in discussion. OOPS! Perhaps the rest of them should close their doors now. They know who they are and so do we. Vice is only a couple of miles away.

James H wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:29 PM:Oh the children will be safe now...puh-leez!

Im with James wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:43 PM:The smoke shop can stay but now our children are safe because nobody is willingly getting a back rub?
Good grief!

Lets get rid of Main Attraction wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 PM:You and your husband need Jesus, that should be your Main Attraction to your satisfaction...

Umm.. wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:09 PM:I can tell you that some of the characters coming out of there certainly didn't look like they were getting a back rub. "Therapy". Right. Good riddance.

BLAH wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:50 PM:our children are at risk? of what? what would a child be doing at a message place? its between a boating place and a smoke store, between the three the message place is putting your children at risk? wow.

Its Where wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:08 PM:I've been to West Marine many times and never even noticed this place was next door. How bad could it be?

Leave Main Attraction Alone wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:12 PM:TO: Lets get rid of Main Attraction

The idea that you think you can speak about something you don't know anything about (me and my husband) speaks volumes about you.

You may have personal choices that differ from ours ... and that's OK ... but you don't get to dictate what's right or wrong for us based on you.

Again ... Maybe ya'll just need to get out a little bit more.

Curious wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:16 PM:Out of the remaining 3 of the 4 businesses that were incorrectly issued operating licenses ... Why was the one approved while the other two denied?

Certainly, the potential for prostitution must be considered. But, according to records, this is a place that had one prostitution related arrest in 3 years ... and it appears that the person arrested was dealt with appropriately by management (FIRED). That hardly seems like an overwhelmingly rampant problem that the business owner was trying to sweep under the carpet.

Makes me wonder what's in it for who if this business is forced to close.

FierceThriller wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:19 PM:you people bashing our city are ridiculous. The bad element tattoo parlors, massage parlors, strip clubs, barber shops.... who do these cater to, The military. That is why those businesses are their in the first place. you people do not want to get rid of the base do you? leave people alone. one person was arrested their. so what you can find that at any restaraunt.the city gave let them open and if they are paying their taxes leave them alone. if you dont like them dont go. if it wasnt for this article i would of never know this place existed. People need to keep their opionions to themselves. As far a Feller, why dont you replace it with a sandwhich shop


...then why is Coronado, which has a naval base and BUDS training, such a nice part of town? There's not just one cause for why Oceanside is in it's current state. There are many different factors that feed into it.

All I can say is... wrote on Nov 13, 2008 11:09 PM:this story has a "happy ending".

uh huh wrote on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 PM:nate's right

robert wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:58 AM:the kids will be safe now ??? oh please you idiots in office wake up kids see more stuff at school than they would ever see at a massage parlor

The answer wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:39 AM:I used to live in Cardiff By the Sea, I now live in Copenhagen,Denmark.Over here we have many brothels,maybe a thousand in greater Copenhagen, and hardly any sex offenders or rapists,very few per capita.Maybe you should open a few more,and watch your rape and sexual asault numbers drop, youll be suprised..As for keeping the children safe? Come on,snap out of it.

JSten wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:52 AM:So I guess there is no happy ending for this story as well?

Oceansider wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:49 AM:So they are closing it down because the police were called a few times? How many times have the police gone to Wal-Mart, Ralphs, the banks or other businesses? Should we close them down too? Let the place stay open. The police are there to make sure laws are not broken. Let them do their job. Don't make blanket judgments about the clientele of massage therapy.

Brad wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:53 AM:Our children are at risk from a business that may or may not be doing something illegal?

Are our children at risk from groups of men congregating on local streets and in shopping center parking lots that ARE doing something illegal?

Yet another goose and gander thing!

resident wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:56 AM:Thank God, Our children are safe now !!!
Can I let them outside now????

To Oceansider wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:04 AM:No blankets to judge here! The Police go visit the other places for the same reason they visited this one. There were bad guys inside. Duh!

filthy ramirez wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:53 AM:what a bunch of cry babies. Just take a chill oceanside council.

To Oceansider wrote on Nov 14, 2008 8:50 AM:The police are called to places like Wal-Mart, Ralphs, etc. because usually people are caught stealing at stores like that. The police were called to this place because it was prostitution related. BIIIIG DIFFERENCE, don't ya think?
AND TO OBAMANATION:
You want this place to sue the city? Yeah right! Places like this are going to be dropping like flies once OBAMA puts his tax plan into affect anyway.

Massage Therapist wrote on Nov 14, 2008 8:59 AM:I am a licensed massage therapist in Oceanside, I do not work at this place of business but I can assure you that not all massage therapy businesses are brothels and not all massage therapists are prostitutes! For any of you to assume so is an insult to our profession. We are trained in state licensed schools and recieve permits through OPD after passing back ground checks. We go into this profession to help people that are in pain, not to be called prostitutes! The people that come to us are not just "Military" as someone stated. Our clients are men AND women, nurses, waitresses, military wives, anyone that is in pain! We fight the stigma of "Massage = prostitute" everyday that we work and it is ridiculous!

joshua wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:13 AM:why do we need jesus? Can he pole dance?

hugh wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:18 AM:I don't understand Jack Feller's stance on this issue. How can he say on one hand, that a person should be able to do anything he wants on their own property but yet deny someone that same right when it is something he doesn't like ? Make up your mind Jack are you for or against personal freedoms?
Or does the issue involve making contributions to your campaign fund?

dave wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:20 AM:Relax--what a joke--I agree with the person living in Denmark. Oceanside is a dump anyway so this can only improve everything and obama is president to be so he will make it all good

LOL wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:26 AM:How in the blue hell is your children at risk because of this massage parlor being in a shopping center next to a SMOKE SHOP? Well i guess lets get rid of Chuck-E-Cheese's! They have a huge dirty rat running loose in there, and he's hugging all the children!

And to Umm... How can you tell us that some of the characters coming out of there certainly didn't look like they were getting a back rub? Did you come out just before them?

To Dave wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:43 AM:You're the only joke I see here. Oceanside may have its problems, but it is FAR from a dump. Have you been out and about lately? This city is getting better EVERYDAY. So take your negative comments elsewhere. If you agree with the person living in Denmark, then maybe you should take a permanent trip there. You'll probably be better off there after Obama takes over this country.

jvc wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:45 AM:What would Jesus do?

Da John wrote on Nov 14, 2008 11:45 AM:Where in the heck do I have to go to get my table shower. I could die without my "treatment"

dave wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:19 PM:Oceanside is a dump--I guess it is all relative to where your from. However, as Oside epitomizes a sleezy coastal town--get through your thick head that the massage parlor will make Oceanside a better place--along with the liquor stores, check cashing places, and cheap retail shops all portray oceanside as it is

SSG Sample wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:33 PM:I used the place once no one implied or attempted to solicit me for anything other than a massage. Being partialy disabled it was cheaper than going to Chiropractor. Hell I even noticed a sign saying keep your underwear on for sanitary reasons. I believe it was more because they were sick and tired of getting hassled. I personaly don't see what the big deal was about.

TCM wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:45 PM:The council talks a good game about how its not the kind of business we want in our city. How about the adult book store located in the heart of our oceans front town? How about the string of dive bars the police are constantly responding to to break up fights? The Main-A is also an eyesore. This is a weak half-measure intended to silence a few loud mouth citizens.

To Dave...Again wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:47 PM:Wow Dave, you think you're just so clever don't you? I grew up/live in the Fire Mountain area of Oceanside, which is one of the nicest neighborhoods in all of North County and I still don't think Oceanside is a dump or "sleezy"(It's actually SLEAZY, FYI). There are many nice parts of Oceanside, but, like many other towns, there are also "dumpy" parts. For you to sit here and focus on all the negative aspects of this area is just pathetic. How about you direct your attention to all the positive changes Oceanside is making. I would be curious to know where exactly YOU are from....

to joshua wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:43 PM:you are so funny - thanks for the laugh. everyone needs to laugh these days. everyone is way to uptight about EVERYTHING..

dave to bobby wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:51 PM:Listen Bobby--Yes, there are some nice "proposed" attractions coming soon to Oceanside--the new hotel, mixed use development, and a super store in the works. The pier is nice, as well as the proximity to the ocean. The rest is garbage. To focus on the negative aspects is not "pathetic" but more realistic than anything. As for the positive perks--that is redundant. FYI--I am a block from the village and 1/2 block from the coast in Carlsbad--which is not a bad place to live these days.

LOL wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:57 PM:Barrio Carlsbad, which is about a couple blocks away from the village, is not a dump?

dave wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:17 PM:LOL
[-] wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:57 PM:Barrio Carlsbad--:) not really. Ocean views and a 5 min walk to 'downtown" not so dumpy

From Esco wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:19 PM:Why hasn't "Greg in Oceanside" yet spouted off on this weighty issue? Seems he loves to mouth off about how bad Escondido is, and yet here is some of OSide's dirty laundry hanging out there and he's stone silent. Keep your nose out of Esco, "Greg", and we'll do the same for your clean, safe city.

Resident wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:24 PM:I grew up on Hunsaker and feel qualified to say that Oceanside is a dump.

Esco wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:28 PM:Barrio Calsbad...LOL Never heard of such a thing.
Leave the MP alone, much better element than the smoke shops, dive bars, tattoo shops, pawn shops, and check cashing shops.

to massage therapist wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:59 PM:You sure are uptight. No one is saying legitimate massage therapy is a problem. It was the 'bonus' services this place was giving that caused its collapse.

Skip wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:57 PM:A permit was issued by mistake?

Sounds like what CalTrans was saying after they gave the Minutemen an "Adopt A Highway Sign" on the 5 freeway near the Border Patrol Check Point. OOPS

Re to massage therapist wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:17 PM:"It was the 'bonus' services this place was giving that caused its collapse."


What evidence do you have to support that claim? The article cited one arrest in 3 years ... and the employee was fired. That hardly sounds like a hotbed of illegal activity.

Hahaha wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:39 PM:This whole thing rubs me the wrong way.

The Answer wrote on Nov 15, 2008 1:41 PM:Denmark is rated the best country to live in for the last 7 out of 10 years.Look it up..High wages,low crime,unlike Oside..which really is a dump,,I lived in Cardiff for many years,Every time I entered Oside,I had a strange feeling of being in a city that was just a couple of notches above Tijuana..Sorry Oside,,Oh yeah Dave,come on out here, Ill show you around town!!!

Girls rule wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:08 PM:Donna McGinty's comment of "our children are at risk" is ridiculous. Jack Fellar's comments were discriminatory at best and if I was the owner I'd sue the city and make them find me a location that is suitable for my business, since they made such a HUGE MISTAKE!!! Three years isn't three months, it's a lot of time and earned monies, and without justification, this business is finished? Hey, is Donna McGinty still wanting the police dept to paint address on the rooftops in Oceanside?? Just wondering..