Please Dan wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:55 AM:When I placed my vote, the color of the candidate, or the historical signifcance didn't even come into play.

Thanks for your seemingly egalitarianism, but gee, there is a thin line between paternalism and acceptance.

Why don't we wait for the dude to take office before we worry about your opinion, my opinon, or history's opinion of what kind of job he does.

Anti-Palin Hoax wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:31 AM:There was a serious damaging hoax made to look Sarah Palin look dumb. It is described in today's (Nov. 14, 2008)Californian on "The Back Page" D-8. Or read it on this website, just enter "Eisenstadt" in the search box.

The source of the hoax that was spreading misinformation about Sarah Palin allegedly as an insider in the McCain campaign has revealed himself.
This includes the lie that Palin thought Africa was a country. Some of you posting to this site were citing this as a reason that Palin was not very bright. And it also fooled some relatives I visited last weekend.

To read the article in the New York Times go to Google and type in two words;
Eisenstadt Gorlin

This article also has a picture of the bad guy publicity hound in his little "office" at his computer.

The hoax has fooled MSNBC, The Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, and other publications and millions of the public.
The hoax has been going on for months as this guy ran a blog posing as an advisor to the McCain campaign but he really was not. He occasionally leaked damaging false comments on his blog. Eitan Gorlin is one of two persons who did the hoax.

Here are three sentences from the NYTimes November 13, article, but see the articles lots more information.
"Trouble is, Martin Eisenstadt doesn’t exist. His blog does, but it’s a put-on. The think tank where he is a senior fellow — the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy — is just a Web site. The TV clips of him on YouTube are fakes.
And the claim of credit for the Africa anecdote is just the latest ruse by Eisenstadt, who turns out to be a very elaborate hoax that has been going on for months."

To Anti-Palin Hoax wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:51 AM:Thanks for the clarification on Palin. Now we know Palin is intelligent, experienced, has a broad world view and is a deeply philosophical and creative thinker. Move over Einstein, and golly gee, where is my side kick Joe the plumber. There is one question I have that you may be able to help with. Palin stated (with a smirk even) that genetic research on fruit flies is a silly waste of money, and that this type of research would stop when she is in office. The problem for Palin is that much of what we understand about genetics (and genetic diseases) comes from fruit flies (and other “goofy” model organisms). This is basic knowledge for high school students after taking their first biology class. To make it even more embarrassing she made this horrific statement while speaking as an expert on children with special needs (and yet she displays complete ignorance about the research that can ultimately help these children). To elect a leader who is obviously science illiterate (not to mention one who obvioulsy knows little of the world outside the isolated state of Alaska) at a time in history when science will dictate the economic future of any country, is the last thing we should do. We need to demand more of our leaders than she talks to God and she has the number one conservative qualification, that being she is mediocre (i.e. she is one of us, a joe six pack).

Why the hoax worked wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:01 AM:The obvious point about the Palin hoax is that the hoax's claims were believable because we HAD heard Palin talk about the world. The stuff about Africa was not inconsistent with other remarks she's made. The false reports didn't make us think she was ignorant, they CONFIRMED her ignorance. If a similar hoax was perpetrated on, say, McCain or Obama or Biden, the world would've said, "Yeah, right." But fear not: seems that darling Sarah will be keeping a high profile, perhaps as Alaska's Senator. She will give us all vast quantities of information about her knowledge of the world in the coming years. Can't wait!

To Dan Perkins wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:59 AM:When I voted for Obama, religion did not even come into my mind.Nor do I intend to mix religion with politics EVER. If you wish to pray for the betterment of our country's future, good for you. Unfortunatley if Obama was to fail, it was not his fault or the lack of religion and prayers. It will take more than a miracle and prayers to do what we as humans can do ourselves to improve our current situation.

Just another person wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:01 AM:All those wonderful things and titles that Dan Perkins has given himself, has no bearing on what kind of a person he might be, and certainly does not make him any better than most other people.
He has already started to make veiled critisisms,about our newly elected President, what does that say about Dan.
But seeing that their was nobody better than Senator Obama, lets support him all the way.

Voted Yes on Eight wrote on Nov 14, 2008 12:17 PM:Too many comments against churches donating to Vote Yes on Eight, when in fact almost no church money if any was donated.
A problem is the gay groups hitting up companies for donations, or the executives pushing it while many of their stockholders and customers are against it. Companies should stay neutral on these issues.

Pepsi has announced they have given Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) an additional half-million dollars in the past several days to help push the homosexual agenda. PFLAG is a political advocacy group that promotes radical homosexual political causes like same-sex marriage, hate-crime laws, and gay adoption. Pepsi has also given them and other homosexual groups a lot of money in the past.
Despite the fact that 30 states have passed constitutional amendments defining marriage as being between a man and a woman, and many more have passed such laws, Pepsi continues to support the efforts by same-sex groups pushing for homosexual marriage.
It would be better if companies could stay neutral so that one side or the other does not try to boycott them or stop buying their products. It is bad for business in the long run.

Christ Love wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:48 PM:Hey Tricia Arnold, What if the freedom of religion I am blessed with in America doesn't lead me to your lord and savior? If you force biblical law onto me and worshipers of other faiths, you are practicing discrimination in violation of the laws of the land. What about "rendering unto Caesar?" Christ didn't teach us to oppress others and churches have lost their way getting their flocks to support constitution discrimination.

John the Baptist wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:55 PM:Re "Voted Yes on Eight" post of 11/14, 12:17 PM:

It's true the Mormon Church contributed only a small dollar amount to support Prop 8. But it exhorted it's members to contribute, and they did, to the tune of perhaps $20 million.

If you'd care to see detailed figures, Google "Follow the donors". Select the first entry. In the search table there, enter UT for the state. Notice the ninth entry, ALAN ASHTON, who contributed $1 million dollars.

Additionally, a law suit has been filed against the Mormon Church, alleging that it failed to report substantial non-monetary contributions to Prop 8.

Regards

To Dan Perkins wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:11 PM:I will give you an AMEN!

birdy wrote on Nov 17, 2008 2:04 AM:wow. the ignorance. evangelicals have the highest divorce rate in the country. how is that bible working for you now?

you know, people like you make me hope for the day where your faith will become a minority in this country and you'll find yourself defending your rights. suddenly you'll remember the 1st amendment and why our forefathers thought it so important.

it is going to happen.. just so you know. christianity is not the fastest growing religion in the world by a long shot.