LETTERS: The Californian, Nov. 19, 2008
By Readers of The Californian | ∞
Now is the time to change policy
We Americans are thrilled and energized to have a new president who is innovative, conscientious and forward-thinking. Now let's hope he and the rest of our representatives and policy-makers begin to shake up the way our country creates and utilizes electrical power. Now, when we are facing enormous economic, environmental and national security challenges, when our employment rate is plummeting and fears of global warming are skyrocketing, we need to make some big changes.
I want our leaders to know that here in Southern California, we support "repowering" America with 100 percent clean electricity within 10 years in order to get our country and our environment back on track and moving forward confidently. We can do this ---- yes, we can ---- through energy efficiency, the use of renewable generation and a national unified smart grid. By repowering America, we will also be creating a new, feel-good industry with high-paying green jobs, lower energy costs and clean, domestic energy that is free and limitless to replace filthy coal and foreign oil.
As a citizen of America, as a resident of Southern California, I encourage our leaders to listen to our plea and consider the plan laid out at RepowerAmerica.org. We love the direction our country is leaning ---- let's take it all the way!
Lisa Edmond
Temecula
Take time to read the Constitution
Larry Thompson chides Les Nursey in his Nov. 15 letter for his supposed misunderstanding about democracy and the courts, but after reading Thompson's letter, I would have to say he is the one who needs to read up on the subjects.
Thompson cites the Constitution as the reason the gay marriage ban should be overturned by the courts. The Constitution is a document that sets up the government of the United States and the separation of powers between the various branches of government. There is no mention of marriage, gay marriage or homosexuality in the Constitution. In fact, the 10th Amendment of the Constitution states "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
The founders of our country clearly meant for the states to set laws governing the affairs of the people, such as marriage. It is up to each state to set laws regarding marriage. Massachusetts and Connecticut allow gay marriage, which is fine by me. The other 48 states don't. The people of California have voted twice to ban gay marriage. There is nothing unconstitutional about it. I urge everyone to actually read the Constitution.
Gary Parkhill
Murrieta
Now who's showing their intolerance?
To all the gay people out there who cannot accept the vote of the majority of Californians on Proposition 8, let's set the record straight. The Constitution is not set up for gay people only or for gays to use the Constitution in an effort to deprive straight people of their constitutional rights. The gay populations protesting against churches with hate signs and blocking members from entrance is discrimination at the highest level.
Gay and lesbian groups have shown their intolerance of the straight majority's belief that marriage is between a man and a woman only. We do not believe that our children should be forced to believe man-and-man or woman-and-woman marriage is normal social behavior.
No civil rights have been violated with Prop. 8. Gay couples in the state of California have the same legal rights as married couples if they register as domestic partners. Talk about civil rights being violated. ... That is what the gay communities are trying to take away from heterosexual couples ---- their right to preserve the meaning of marriage as a union between man and woman.
Anne Pica
Sun City
We need to take care of our own
I just finished reading Jerry Pomeroy's Nov. 15 letter regarding universal health care and liberal presidents. I am 63 and have had no health care since being laid off. After loss of vision in my eye, I can't do what I was trained for and worked 30 years at. I rely on county doctors. Private health care said no go; you know, those pesky pre-existing ailments.
I spent all day recently at the county hospital. I'm told I won't be eligible for Medicare until I'm 66, by the way, paid for by U.S. citizens. Canada, England and other civilized countries manage health care for their citizens, but in this country it's called socialism and deemed undemocratic. My husband and I paid into the system of running this country all our working lives and never asked for a thing. For those who have health care, as I imagine Mr. Pomeroy does, this issue isn't important. But try being told you'll lose your sight without the proper care and then see how you feel.
By the way, I pay for services at the county hospital. It's not free. Senators and congressmen have health care paid by the citizens of this country for the rest of their lives. Why not the rest of us? Are they special? It's time to drop the right-wing crap and finally take care of our own. We sure don't have a problem sticking our nose and money into everything else. Good luck, President Barack Obama.
Mary Leon
Murrieta
Support teachers like Dave Evans
Since moving away from the Temecula Valley this summer to complete my degree, I enjoy checking on my former stomping grounds from time to time via The Californian's Web site. I was recently dismayed to learn about the actions of Fallbrook High School Principal Rob King regarding the alleged censorship of the student newspaper. From what I have gathered from this paper's reporting, Mr. King acted irresponsibly and vindictively by not only censoring the student publication, but also by canceling the journalism course and removing Dave Evans as adviser to the now extracurricular program immediately after Evans spoke out about the censorship.
Dave Evans should be commended for the effort he obviously devotes to his students by continuing the program once the course was canceled, and acting as an example to them by fighting for their First Amendment rights. Our schools need more teachers such as Mr. Evans. On the other hand, Mr. King's shameful abuse of power is damaging to both the educational experience of his students and the reputation of the community as a whole. I urge the school board to publicly reprimand Principal King for his irresponsible behavior in this matter.
Brendan McPhillips
University of Notre Dame
South Bend, Ind.
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Yes for Universal Healthcare wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:59 AM:I agree with all that Mary Leon writes on the subject of taking care of our own with universal healthcare. I do not believe though that Mary lingers enough on the subject of 'right wing crap' in her letter. I'll give it a shot for her. Basically there are a bunch of lobbyist in Washington that are there for the benefit of insurance companies. They lobby to pretty much keep things as they are so these companies can continue to be profitable at the sacrifice of the common person. That is coupled with apparent holdovers from the McCarthy era that want to label everyone a socialist that is for universal healthcare. In addition to that you've got the Rush Limbaugh crowd that is completely ignorant on the issue but they always want to label it as socialism. It is time to move towards a universal healthcare system and eliminate the middle man (insurance companies). And no, it won't take six months to get an emergency taken care (unless you want to keep your underperforming HMO).
Andy wrote on Nov 19, 2008 6:51 AM:Dear Anne,
Please do me a favor. As a Straight, Non-Religious (you would likely label me an atheist), Married, Californian; I ask that you not group me into your God Fearing, close minded and truly unfriendly community of "Heterosexuals". Though I am a heterosexual as you see it, our similarities abruptly end there.
Thanks
to ann pica wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:51 AM:How do you suppose people that have been discriminated against react? Stop discriminating and treat people equaly and then we can work towards a better future. Untill then, if you continue to discriminate, there will be tension,anger, and retaliation from the oppressed.
A Core Value wrote on Nov 19, 2008 8:50 AM:Our nation is founded on core values, including the right to pursue happiness. Can you imagine pursuing true happiness in your life while being barred from getting married? Since gay marriage hurts exactly no one, I cannot fathom how the voting majority rejected such a foundational value of our nation. Dispicable. Let's get it to court and overturn it, and then do the same at the federal level, and move on.
Somehow I think... wrote on Nov 19, 2008 12:15 PM:...that after Ann and her type finish their outrage against what goes on behind the closed doors of same sex couples, they will next target both the sexual techniques and motives shared between loving and committed hetrosexual couples in the privacy of their bedrooms.
For Ana wrote on Nov 19, 2008 2:22 PM:Since you like to judge the normaility of other's sex lives I think it's only fair that you provide detailed descrptions of her sexual acivities so others can judge what side of normal you are on.
To For Ana wrote on Nov 19, 2008 3:37 PM:Though I agree with your point. I would like to keep my lunch down...if you know what I mean. =)
Right on Anne wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:26 PM:Anne, you stated my thoughts and that of many of my friends and neighbors exactly. First the gays want tolerance, then equal rights, now they are after legitimization. This is not about equal rights. Our society does NOT overwhelmingly believe that a gay couple's relationship is the same as marriage, nor should we be bullied into acceptance of that. They have their civil rights, now they should get over it. And yes, legitimizing gay marriage DOES hurt the institute of marriage. Do some research, you'll find out why.
John the Baptist wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:45 PM:Gary Parkhill should have read the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. The US Supreme Court hasn't been inclined to consider cases involving discrimination based on sexual orientation, but the Prop 8 case might change that. However, the case against Prop 8 needn't go that far. California law specifically prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation. Accordingly, the California Supreme Court will have no choice but to strike down Prop 8 in keeping with the Equal Protection requirement.
Regards
Help me out Right On wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:00 PM:I can't come up with any FACTS proving gay marriage "hurts the institute[sic] of marriage."
All I can find is wild-eyed opinion.
Please provide me with a few sources.
BART wrote on Nov 20, 2008 3:17 AM:"EQUAL RIGHTS"? THAT'S WISHFUL THINKING. WOULD YOU LET AN "INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGED" PERSON BE YOUR SURGEON OR BE IN CHARGE OF YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUSINESS OR COUNTRY?
WHAT'S WRONG WITH CIVIL UNIONS? THEY EXIST IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN MANY OTHERS, WHERE NOBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT THEM. FROM ANOTHER VIEWPOINT, GAY PEOPLE DO HAVE "EQUAL RIGHTS": THERE IS NO LAW IN THIS COUNTRY PROHIBITING A GAY WOMAN FROM MARRYING A GAY MAN. RIGHT?
Scorpion wrote on Nov 20, 2008 7:25 AM:There are only two ways this can logically go: State-sanctioned marriage will have to be opened up to everyone, or done away with altogether.
Why is the state involved anyway? Marriage is, at its core, a religious institution. Churches would be free to choose whom they allow to marry under their own policies. The state should either get out of the business entirely, or create a 'civil union' that is open to everyone who wants their relationship legally blessed, regardless of orientation.
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