SAN MARCOS: Administrators unsure what chancellor's order might mean for CSUSM
CSU campuses to limit enrollment; higher admissions standards also possible
By ANDREA MOSS - Staff Writer | ∞
SAN MARCOS ---- Cal State San Marcos administrators said Thursday they will know in several weeks how many students they may have to turn away next year as a result of the CSU chancellor's order earlier in the day to limit enrollment.
The directive could force the four-year university system to turn away as many as 10,000 students in the 2009-10 academic year, the administrators said.
Reacting to the news, CSUSM officials reiterated their previously stated position that North County students who hope to attend the university can greatly improve their chances of being admitted next fall if they submit their applications by Nov. 30.
University spokeswoman Margaret Lutz said those who meet both the "priority application" deadline and basic admissions requirement are guaranteed admission.
"After that, we can't guarantee it," she said.
Students from other parts of the county or the state who hope to attend the campus also are likely to face higher admissions standards. Those could include higher grade point averages or a wait list, Lutz said.
"If they live locally, the (existing) criteria applies to them ---- if they have a 'B' average and they've met the admissions requirements, they're fine," she said. "It's students that don't live locally or don't meet those admissions requirements that have to worry."
CSU Chancellor Charles B. Reed's order applies to all 23 CSU system campuses.
A response to midyear budget cuts proposed by the state, Reed's directive created a situation where the system may have to turn away students who meet admissions requirements, for the first time in CSU's history.
Roughly 450,000 students are enrolled at CSU campuses throughout the state.
Reed's order also may mean higher admission requirements for students who want to attend a CSU campus outside their "home" service area in the 2009-10 school year.
Darren Bush, associate vice president of enrollment management services at the San Marcos campus, said administrators there need to meet with the chancellor to discuss specifics about what Reed's order means for CSUSM.
The number of applications received by the Nov. 30 deadline also will help determine how many students do not get in, he said.
"Once we have that pool of applicants, then we will begin to sort that pool by area of service and nonlocal service area applications," said Bush. "And we'll see where we're at."
CSUSM's service area runs from Highway 56 north to the Mission Viejo area on the coast and to the Lake Elsinore-Murrieta area inland.
If higher admissions standards are adopted, they would affect non-North County students trying to enroll at Cal State San Marcos.
The same goes for North County students seeking to enroll at San Diego State University, Cal State Long Beach or other CSU campuses.
The timing of Reed's order is particularly bad for CSUSM because it has seen the number of applications coming in for the next year jump significantly. As of Wednesday, Lutz said, the application pool for next fall was 40 percent larger than at the same point last year.
The push for early applications may be a factor. However, university officials have also said they believe the sagging economy is making college attendance more attractive to many people.
Lutz and Bush said Thursday that Reed's directive has left CSUSM administrators worried that the campus will be unable to fulfill its mission of giving as many students as possible access to higher education.
"But certainly in the context of the overall budget situation, it is understandable," Bush said. "And we are going to do what we can to make it work."
The Associated Press contributed to this story.
Contact staff writer Andrea Moss at (760) 739-6654 or amoss@nctimes.com.
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Lets see wrote on Nov 20, 2008 8:46 PM:Some greedy folks on top get bailed out..some students on the bottom get cut off...the trickle down theory..does work!!
fair wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:04 PM:Giving admission to students who didn't care enough in high school to put out an effort is demeaning to those who worked hard. The bottom students are there generally because of their minority status or "hardships". There was nothing stopping those students from working hard for their position, so they don't deserve to be there over someone who put out the effort and succeeded. I am happy they will will no longer be given an automatic acceptance.
arrrrgghgh wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:14 PM:My child had a 4.2 GPA and a 2260 SAT, a ton of community service and leadership positions as well as being a varsity track captain, yet he was declined from 3 UC's. He has 2 successful white college graduate parents so the cards were stacked against him. CSU's all accepted him and I am now happy that the UC's ignored him, because he is getting an excellent education. The more bottom students the CSU's cut out, the more prestigious they will become. Not everyone was designed to jump past the jr. college system.
Kathy wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:06 AM:hey arrrrgghgh, the junior college route is the way to go...not only is it cheaper and ususally closer to home but it can guarantee you into the 4 year when you transfer as a junior. That's what I did...it has been the best academics I've gotten so far and I am now in a masters program!
Don't think the community college is anything less than what the 4 yrs are-I think it offered more !
Tuition needs wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:05 AM:to be increased to cover the cost of running these schools. Get the government out, quit the subsidies and let private enterprise take over. If people can't afford going they will reduce costs to reduce tuition so the students can. Now, nothing is reduced because they know they have tax dollars to spend. Just think when government starts running healthcare....aahhh we are short of funding sorry we can't take anymore patients for awhile. Wait and see!
KNOWLEDGE FOR ALL wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:15 AM:Is it time to rethink how we educate ourselves so no one would be left out.
There are allmost an endless number of courses available through the computor or dvd. We may never have enough classroom space for everyone, however we can all still study and learn. I believe in the future many of us will take part in class study seated in our homes. Knowledge for all.
dave wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:45 AM:I went to Michigan--great school--not the best in football this year
To Fair wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:08 AM:What makes you beleive that minorities and people with hardships get accepted into universities without meeting the requirements. Why do you think al lthe people at the bottom are all either minority or hardship students. That sounds like racism to me!
student wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:26 PM:To Fair, I am sorry, but as a minority I STILL had to meet the requirements to get into UCLA and UCSD. If I had not met the requirements, I would not be in school today. We are disadvantaged many a time, but if you have not lived it, you would not understand the hardships one has to endure. I also have to state that not all minorities endure the same troubles; I believe hardship has to do more with your socioeconomic level. Please, go spew your ignorance else where.
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