Realist wrote on Nov 21, 2008 5:42 AM:So now it is the players that are to blame? Wait, AJ said Marty was the problem! Same players, different coach...AJ is talking out of both sides of his mouth. I know WHO the problem is! It's AJ! Fire Marty, result: Lost AFC Conferenece game with team Marty built! Fire Ted Cotrell, result: Still can't stop a running game! Get REAL Charger fans...AJ has got to go...Seems He always seems to point the finger everywhere except at himself...If the players are NOW the problem, He brought them in! Get rid of the REAL problem AJ Smith!

To Realist wrote on Nov 21, 2008 7:35 AM:A bit bitter are we? :-)
AJ has done a great job for the Bolts.
Marty did not build the team, AJ did.
I was a Marty fan, but the fact remains, he could not win in the post season. Why go 14-2 if you aren't going to do anything with it. Norv took, what you say was the same players to the AFC Championship game where Marty lost in first round (once again your words the same guys). So, instead of being so bitter, get behind the team and support them.

kiwibolt wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:18 AM:Your love of all things Marty has gotten ridiculous Jay. How easy is it to forget the 2002 team that started 6-2 and then finished 8-8 under Marty? You like to mention 14-2, but easily overlook the undisciplined team that tanked away the playoff game (with some help from some horrid sideline decisions). Marty's teams laid some major eggs during his tenure here.

Try reporting the facts for a change- rather than the facts filtered through your pro-marty/anti-AJ lenses.

Boltum wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:31 AM:Realist, AJ did not build this team, Buddy Nix and all his scouts are the guys who packed their bags, left home, live out of a suit case, eat fast food and find the players! They found the core of this team, the Gates, Dielmans, Harts, Cesairs, Harris, Tucker, Floyd, Osgood, etc. and all the low round draft picks who make up the team. Marty, Wade and Cam developed them. When is AJ going to be held accountable for all his high draft pick flops? Sammy and Buster, Kiel and Waters to name just a few. When is AJ accountable for depleting the team of talent starting with Brees and getting NOTHING in return? When will he be held accountable for running off a 14/2 coach and replacing him with a sub .500 coach? JUST because Marty would not hire AJ's out of work, over the hill, buddy Teddy?!!!

Kentera wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:02 AM:The reason they have lost in the playoffs with Marty was that this team was not a championship caliber team. Explain to me why you think it is all Marty's fault that they win during the season and then lose in the playoffs? They use to say the same thing about Bill Cowher, then he won a Super Bowl. The reason...he had a championship caliber team that year. He did things the exact same way the years they lost in the playoffs as he did when they won the Super Bowl. And to answer your question, Why go 14-2? Because you can't win a playoff game if you are not in the playoffs!

Was-A Lt-Fan wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:13 AM:I blame LT for the loss in the playoffs, sitting on the sideline crying behind his stupid Dath Vader mask. While Rivers with (TWO) bad knees played his heart out. Lt could have went into the locker room got some Merimans juice, and finished the game like a team player. Once again, should have kept Turnner & Neal. Instead we have mister T.V. ad maker. Will even get 1000yds this year, I think Turnner is alraedy there or really close to it! Hey James are you still haveing that BBQ in Hillcreast park Sat @ 11am. See you there !!!

RAIDERMANN wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:21 AM:Listen to all this CRAP!! It's your whole team, coaches,players, & FANS. First lets start with the Fans that can't sell out thier HOME games. (FOX has to bail them out) 4 times this season. Why? Because they are BANDWAGON FANS, when they WIN they come, when they start to lose they don't show up!!! Coaches they just dont mix and match well. Players, they just don't have the will anymore. AJ let key players go & kept the wrong ones. Has for my Raiders, whens Baseball start!!!

Sam wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:01 AM:Realist is just another delusional filtering knee-jerk fan.

Hey Realist, you remember when the Chargers went 12-4 and lost to the wild card Jets in the first round, when Marty ran the ball three straight times to settle for a 41 yard field goal, in the rain by a rookie kicker...remember that?

Oh, and then Super Marty followed that debacle the next year by missing the playoffs entirely...MISSING THE PLAYOFFS WITH AN UP AND COMING TEAM THAT YOU SAY HE BUILT...THAT WENT 12-4 THE YEAR BEFORE...RIDICULOUS and DELUSIONAL!

Fan Maybe wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:01 AM:Lest you all forgot, we go STUCK with Norv because AJ and Marty had an end of the season spat that forced AJ and Spanos to make the move. The only coaches left were of the 3rd string variety and Novr was selected.

Now, things have changed again, Spanos wants out of San Deigo and having a lossing team with falling attendance numbers helps him accomplish that so Norv is a convenient scape goat.

Even if they make the playoffs, which in my opinion, will be because the players make it happen despite the really poor coaching from Norv it won't make a big difference to the Spanos and company because they working long range and will still need to find a suitable home for the team.

BoltDan wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:10 AM:Kiwi and to realist are suffering from illness... Norvitas. Marty came in and made a team play. Pumped up his players, got the most out of what was given to him by AJ. His record speaks for itself 2 over 200 wins, How many does Norv have? yeah! Marty built relantionships with his players. Now AJ Has never built a relationship with any of his players. He will AXE anybody (look at the long list of players and coaches) and will soon axe more and you complacent rah rah types will love it. STOP believing what the media/AJ tell you and demand a winning team. AJ brought in Norv and he is failing, has failed, and will always fail as a head coach. Marty and his crew improved our beloved Bolts from 1-15 to 14-2 so don't dismiss his stamp because now we are seeing Norv/with AJ's stamp of crappiness. We have been Norv'ed and now we have to dig out.

The article says if Norv gets to play-offs all will be forgotten. WRONG. He might redeem himself if he wins a play-off game with his play calling but that is like saying housing prices are gonna go up real soon.

Realist wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:35 AM:You get behind a team of losers. I am a Raider fan! I was thrilled when the chargers hired NoTurner! A Raider Reject! This ensured the losing ways of the chargers would continue. I am not bitter, only the REALIST. Get REAL and look at who built the teams players, AJ. He then banished Marty from his kingdom. Now AJ says it's the players letting them down. WHEN does AJ take responsibility for his actions. WHEN does AJ get held responsible for his actions. Do the math, AJ has run out of people to blame! Wait! He can blame the ownership! Choose the behavior, Choose the consequence. If you want to continue with your fantasy, go right ahead. That is not bitter, it is REALITY simply observed by the REALIST.

alfonso wrote on Nov 21, 2008 3:53 PM:HEY RAIDERMANN. LAST TIME I CHECKED THE RAIDERS HAVE BLACKED OUT 3 TIMES THIS YEAR AND 4 GAMES LAST YEAR. THERE 2 MILLION OVER THE CAP. NOW TELL ME HOW BRIGHT IS YOUR TEAMS FUTURE AND PLEASE TELL ME YOU AND YOUR EASY-E, NWA FANS ARE TRUE DIEHARD THATS SILLY. CHARGERS SELLOUTS CONTINUE AT 60 STRAIGHT GAMES, RAIDERS 0. TRUE FANS LOL.

Chris wrote on Nov 21, 2008 5:48 PM:To Realist:
..., keep Marty? The Raiders suck and dont pull any of that nonsense about 3 rings your boys have lost to mine 10 TIMES IN A ROW!!! And this is with Norvelle at the helm. Every bitter pessimist claims they are a realist. Im not a Norv Turner fan at all, but I never for a second believed we should have kept Marty, losing two home games in the playoffs to teams we should have blown out is utterly inexcuseable. You call out charger fans in charger forums because you are bitter about your team being the laughing stock of the NFL. Hey hows this for a twist you guys should kill King Al and rehire Lane Kiffin, ive never been more worried about defeat than i was earlier this year and he came closer to it than you guys have since September of 2003. Go crawl back to the black hole!

Get loud Amigos wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:00 PM:Bolts are favored, so for 10 measley seconds while Manning is trying to snap the ball get mother freak1ng loud.

RAIDERMANN wrote on Nov 21, 2008 7:42 PM:HEY "CHRISSTY", I heard that your going to be @ the BBQ held by James in Hillcreast. Don't forget to your "RAINBOW" inside your BOLT. It will fit perfect inside of there. Chris you full it, FOX bought 10k plus for 4 games this year.There's your Osama bail-out!

RandyR wrote on Nov 22, 2008 4:57 AM:If you're dis-pleased with the Chargers and you want to get your point across...don't attend the games! When the players are on the field, looking up at the empty stands/seats...the pocket book (so to speak) is going to become the subject of discussion. Therefore, the fans voices will be heard! Same holds true for the Padres!

jammerman wrote on Nov 22, 2008 5:48 AM:every one quit your cryin,if your a true bolts fan then youll keep the faith.and LT quit saying u dont no how much u got left....walter payton didnt get his ring till his 10th season.so dont give up.....we miss u marty

who has time wrote on Nov 22, 2008 7:08 AM:for professional sports any more it cost you a weeks pay to go to the game. I would rather go see a high school game and let the chargers and all other teams just go away.

TX - BOLT wrote on Nov 22, 2008 7:45 AM:Get Loud Amigos: I am heading to the plane right now with ten of my boys and we plan to do our part. Go Bolts!!!!! A manning is a Manning...Get some Bolts!!!!

BoltBacker65 wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:01 AM:I'm with Boltum. The media and fans seem to overlook the "unsung heroes", Buddy Nix and all his scouts who've brought in the real guts of this team.

I think maybe Dean Spanos wants to covey solidarity by publicly stating his support for Norv Turner. That would keep down the controversy for the moment. I'm sure if Turner's efforts prove futile and the Bolts lose all their remaing games scheduled, Spanos will revisit his support and quite possibly search for a new head coach (I hope).

If the Spanos family do have major plans to take the Bolts out of town (as in Stockton or elsewhere) then tapping Norv for another year is the writing on the wall Turner doesn't come across as motivator who can communicate that extra above and beyond element successful coaches of winning teams have.

Anyway,regarding the possibility of the Chargers bailing SD, maybe we fans can do like they did in Cleveland when they sued to keep the Browns name in Cleveland while the physical team moved to Baltimore...never hurts to be ready. After all, we fans have d_cked around for far too long.

Brad wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:20 AM:How much easier would it be for this team to leave town after a major decline in season ticket holders?

Who Cares wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:01 AM:There are more important things in life.....

Need a playbook wrote on Nov 23, 2008 2:11 AM:When was the last time LT threw a pass??? that was our bread and butter play....

Chargerfan213 wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:42 AM:Hey Raidermann, talk about band-wagon fans, you can't be over 35 years old because not that long ago there were very few [Norteno/raiders fans)]out here. Before they came I rarely seen any and when they did come it was nothing but gang-bangers who hopped on the wagon. But there is some truth to what you said fans don't stay around long when your losing that's because this is also California and nothing but
a melting pot and not many true football fans. But I am and the problem with the Chargers is the Norv Turner, this guy is the 3rd worst coach in NFL history and last night is proof of that. He can't manage a clock or design a 4th down play that works. He has not imagination or guts.

charger fan wrote on Nov 24, 2008 1:16 PM:NORV,NORV,
Dude you have got to get control of this team. It doesn't look good for the team and for the fans that you are going to be here for the remainder of the season and have plans to return.
Norv, you have to admit that you are not a head coach and let alone manage a freakin game you need to learn how to call time outs. You also need to remember who you have on your team and use them to their abilities.

B.B. Le Bad wrote on Nov 24, 2008 7:50 PM:LT is washed up....

The O line blows....

The D is sketchy....

Coaching sucks.....

Gates isnt anywhere near the player he was before that toe injury.....

Soooo.....

The Raiders will beat KC and Atlanta will beat SD this weekend meaning the Bolts and Raiders will have identical records.

What a joke this team is.

bolthead wrote on Nov 25, 2008 10:41 AM:56 IS TO BLAME FOR THIS SEASON!Ok I said it.Someone had to.A surgury that could have and SHOULD have been done in the off season.What was he thinking. Let me guess MONEY ok so he is worth the money and should be paid like the stud he is, but his actions show me he is more selfish than anything. He will get his check but I hope it will be in a franchise tag.Use him and loose him!