REGION: What cell phone law?

Drivers still talking when they shouldn't

By SARAH GORDON - Staff Writer | Wednesday, November 26, 2008 3:29 PM PST

A man breaks the law and uses his cell phone as he drives around the Escondido Promenade shopping center last week. (Photo by Don Boomer - Staff Photographer)


Citations for violations of hands-free cell phone driving law
Carlsbad Police Department :43 citations and 36 warnings, as of Nov. 1
CHP Oceanside station: 576, as of mid-November
Encinitas Sheriff's station (serving Encinitas, Solana Beach and Del Mar) : 263, as of mid-November
Escondido Police Department: 222, as of Nov. 1
Oceanside Police Department: 238, as of mid-November
Poway Sheriff's Station: 146, as of mid-November
San Marcos Sheriff's Station: 32, as of mid-November
Vista Sheriff's Station: 95, as of Oct. 31

You've probably noticed that some drivers still have cell phones pressed to their ears, even though it's against the law.

So far, no one has formally assessed how well the ban on hand-held phones is working, though North County law enforcement agencies said they have issued more than 1,000 tickets since the law went into effect on July 1.

Drivers who want to talk on their cell phones must use a headset or a speakerphone, but it's not hard to find North County drivers who admit to sneaking a hand-held phone conversation now and again.

North County traffic officers, while acknowledging there are plenty of chatty scofflaws, said they generally were satisfied with the level of compliance.

One thing is sure: North County drivers are getting $97 tickets for talking on hand-held phones. (Or $211, for second offenses.)

C.J. Hardman of Rancho Bernardo said she tries to follow the law, but sometimes cheats. The 34-year-old Amtrak conductor said she never talked much in her car before the law took effect, so she considered a wireless headset a frivolous expense and never bought one. After July 1, she vowed not to make any calls from her car.

But sometimes, when her phone rings while she's driving, she picks it up. After all, it could be her daughter's school or something urgent.

"I understand it's my responsibility as a citizen to be safe and aware while I'm driving, and I don't want to be a scofflaw," Hardman said. "But then the reality of life kicks in."

Andrea Aguilar, 39, drives from Escondido to San Diego daily to take her son to school and usually passes the time on the phone. When the law went into effect, the accountant said her husband bought her a Bluetooth headset.

"I don't like getting pulled over," she said.

Enforcement has varied, officials say.

San Marcos deputies have written 32 citations since July 1, but in Poway, a smaller city, deputies have written 146 tickets.

San Marcos' traffic sergeant, Cliston Hensley, said he wasn't sure why deputies had written a relatively low number of tickets.

"It could be that our deputies have chosen to give verbal warnings and show compassion, like they sometimes do for new laws," Hensley said.

Or, he added wryly, ''Maybe we're just more law-abiding than in some areas."

Poway traffic Cpl.Todd Murphy said Poway had more traffic officers than many other cities its size, and perhaps that explained the relatively large number of citations there.

Not to mention that the deputies have plenty of easy targets, he said.

"They (People on handheld phones) are easy to spot and I don't think there's much compliance there," he said.

Other officers said they thought people had adapted to the hands-free requirement better than expected.

"I've seen a marked decrease in people using their phones, and even when I have seen it, they're putting their phones away as soon as they see us," said Oceanside police Sgt. Gabe Jimenez, who heads the city's motorcycle traffic unit.

Quickly ditching a hand-held unit at the sight of a cop at least shows that people know the new law, he said.

Oceanside officers, who gave most drivers a month's grace period, had written 238 tickets as of mid-November, Jimenez said. The department takes violations of the cell phone law as seriously as it does a traffic offense such as speeding or running a stop sign, he said.

But all officers make enforcement choices, and sometimes a driver talking on a phone isn't as urgent as, say, a car doing 110 mph, according to Officer Eric Newbury, a spokesman for the California Highway Patrol .

"Speeding and seatbelt enforcement are always going to be primary, because our priority is always going to be about safety," he said.

Talking on a cell phone, though risky, has not been proven to be as lethal, he said.

As of mid-November, the CHP had written 576 tickets for talking on a hand-held phone on North County freeways and in unincorporated areas.

Contact staff writer Sarah Gordon at (760) 740-3517 or sgordon@nctimes.com

Citations for violations of hands-free cell phone driving law

Carlsbad Police Department :43 citations and 36 warnings, as of Nov. 1

CHP Oceanside station: 576, as of mid-November

Encinitas Sheriff's station (serving Encinitas, Solana Beach and Del Mar) : 263, as of mid-November

Escondido Police Department: 222, as of Nov. 1

Oceanside Police Department: 238, as of mid-November

Poway Sheriff's Station: 146, as of mid-November

San Marcos Sheriff's Station: 32, as of mid-November

Vista Sheriff's Station: 95, as of Oct. 31

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Theotis wrote on Nov 25, 2008 5:35 PM:Bravo to the cops in Poway and the CHP! Time for the sheriffs to step up and write MORE tickets for these phoneheads! I don't like having my personal safety compromised by some thoughtless idiot on the phone while driving. They frequently fail to maintain a steady speed, make dangerous lane changes without using the turn signals, and are just all-around inconsiderate and inattentive! After two tickets, let's start suspending driving prileges!! Yaa-hoo!!

Whereare wrote on Nov 25, 2008 5:52 PM:I want to see the statistics showing accidents declining because of this. There are lots of distractions in a car, people eating, kids screaming, people putting on make up etc....show me this is nothing more than another way to collect revenue.

Greg in Oceanside wrote on Nov 25, 2008 6:31 PM:Oh, it's crazy. I can't count on two hands how many people I see talking on their cell phone on my commute, especially those who are either driving slower, or faster than the flow of traffic, all being done with a 'me-first, I don't care about anyone else' attitude. It's utterly pathetic!

And it isn't rocket-science. People don't need to spend a bundle of money on an obnoxious 'I'm a cool-guy' blue-tooth. I purchased a plug-in headset at one of the up-scale discount stores (that starts with a 'T') for around $12.

Hopefully more of these violators are caught, because they're driving me nuts with their rude obnoxious driving!

No More wrote on Nov 25, 2008 7:02 PM:Typical reaction from 'Whereare". Anything that slows the slaughter on the highways is a good thing. How many times has each of us almost been hit by a selfish one handed driver while chatting on a cell phone? If these people intentionally ignore the law and kill somebody, they should be charged with murder.

Neighbor wrote on Nov 25, 2008 7:23 PM:Studies have shown that there is NO REAL DANGER from driving while talking on a cell phone.

Studies have shown that having a child in the car is more of a distraction than talking on a hand-held cell phone.

Our leaders in Sacramento blew it with this cell phone law.

I would guess that there have been more wrecks caused by people who are fussing with the hands-free equipment, which causes so much more distraction, than were caused by talking on a cell phone.

Good for the goose wrote on Nov 25, 2008 7:58 PM:The cell law doesn't apply to cops, In my opinion it's just a money maker for the state. Like whereare said lets see the statistical decline in accidents.

EAR PIECE wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:16 PM:WHO`S RIGHT OR WRONG WHEN OUR LOCAL POLICE ARE ON THERE CELL PHONE WITH NO EAR PIECE , AND I ALL MOST GET SIDE SWIPED GETTING OFF THE FREEWAY , CAUSE THEY DIDNT SEE THE RED LIGHT ! AND ALL HE CAN SAY I`M SORRY AS HE PULLS UP NEXT TO ME !

Gotta love wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:17 PM:that CJ Hardman. She understands that it's her "responsibility as a citizen to be safe and aware" while she's driving, but then...the "reality of life kicks in," which apparently makes it all right for her to break the law. Nice logic, CJ. Maybe you'll realize how flawed and dangerous it is when you rear-end someone while yakking on the phone.

To Whereare wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:30 PM:I'll show you the statistics...probably some politician in Sacramento getting his palm greased by all the sales this law brought on. Then again, I refuse to buy a bluetooth because the last one I used for a week disconnected, echoed or took too long to pick up a call. Needless to say, my old headset is somewhere on the side of the 5 freeway outside of Anaheim.

To Theotis wrote on Nov 25, 2008 9:05 PM:im guessing you NEVER used a phone while driving in your WHOLE life since you're proposing people get their driving priviledge taken away.. way to go everybody should follow your steps. I'm against people talking on the phone while driving and i support this law,but talking a bluetooth device is not gonna help is the actual conversation that distracts the driver like "whereare" says, there are a lot more distractions on the road than just a cellphone on our hands, construction, rubbernecking,,you finish the list, Cellphone use is just one more distraction added to the list.

well... wrote on Nov 25, 2008 9:29 PM:Actually I have noticed that the driving patterns have changed since the law went into effect. It's funny because you used to look in every single car and see that driver talking on the phone. Now I see more people with their mouths shut! I work for a cellular provider and have noticed the major drops in peak talk time!

But wrote on Nov 25, 2008 9:45 PM:But the man in the picture has a nice car - so he probably won't get a ticket. That's the way it works in Escondido. If you are rich or look rich you get away with talking on your phone or tailgating or speeding or reckless driving. If you are poor or look poor, get your wallets out because you are a target of the bias in Escondido - the bias our council has essentially endorsed!

Ive seen.... wrote on Nov 25, 2008 10:22 PM:plenty of County of San Diego vehicles being driven down I-15, and the drivers holding a cell phone to their ears while driving, and these probably aren't law-enforcement officers undercover, County veicles are easily recognizable by the 5 digit numbering system they use on the backs of their cars, trucks and vans

Talk All You Want wrote on Nov 25, 2008 10:34 PM:I see just as much danger & stupidity on the roads today as I did before this law was passed. People are still talking on the phone as well as whatever other non-driving related activities you can think of. As far as I'm concerned you can talk all you want. You want the roads to be safer ... try these:

1. Actually watch for other drivers.
2. Know what lane you need and be in it BEFORE you actually need to be in it.
3. Keep your trash in your car.
4. Turn down the stereo.
5. Finally, and for the love of whatever you find holy, USE YOUR FREAKING TURN SIGNALS!!!!!

One ringy dingy wrote on Nov 25, 2008 11:10 PM:Its a good law. I can't concentrate when talking on the cell phone while driving and I actually enjoy the quiet while driving in the car. I talk enough on the phone at work all day. Most of the calls I get in the car go like this" Mom, where are you?" "Whats for dinner tonight?" or better yet, "whats there to eat here?" . The cell phone should be used for emergencies only. Thats why I got it in the first place.Too big a distraction for what is likely only unimportant chit chat. It can wait. Stay safe.

JSten wrote on Nov 26, 2008 4:54 AM:Maybe the law has raised awareness and reduced the number of constant talkers.

But the real danger on our roads are those people that think the highways are their own personal speedway.

Some or us are just plain careless, and it doesn't do any good to deflect attention to the yakkers out there.

If the speed limit is 70 and you are doing 80 or 90, YOU are the problem.

If you can see that traffic is building ahead of you and you are not slowing down, YOU are the problem. If you refuse to cooperate with merging traffic, instead preferring to pass when you should be holding or reducing speed to allow others to complete their maneuver, YOU are the problem.

Just because you have a car doesn't mean you don't have to get along with others who also have cars.

Arriving alive is a group effort.

Blue in the tooth wrote on Nov 26, 2008 5:42 AM:I have given up holding my phone while I drive. That's ok because I now have a free hand to eat, hold the newspaper, play the air guitar, switch the radio channels, put on make up, brush my hair, drink coffee... Thank god I can still text while I drive. That would totally be a crime.

Lady wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:16 AM:I agree with WHY are the police talking on their cell phones TOO??? Get a hand-free device... And who's "bright idea" was it to not put into the same law NO texting while driving too.DUH!! Come on people. NOW "they" have to pass another law for no texting on a cell phone while driving. THIS is TOO much.WHO is not paying attention IN OUR GOVERNMENT. Pretty sad!!

WB wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:36 AM:I read a comment that the law does NOT apply to cops. This appears to be true in Escondido.
However I have read the DMV law and I do NOT see peace officers being excluded from this law.

Grump wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:49 AM:I see OPD and Highway Patrol officers talking on their cell phones while driving all time, I wonder if they are emergencies.

Simple Truth wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:56 AM:Don't blame the cell phone. These people are idiots with or without one.

John wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:01 AM:Screw the fine! TAKE AWAY THE CELL PHONE THAT IS CAUSING THE MYOPIC FOCUS TO BEGIN WITH! If impounding cars can get people to stop doing things like driving without insurance, current registration, or a valid driver's license, then taking away a person's cell phone should help get people in complinance with that law. As someone who was REAR-ENDED by a cell-phone yacker, I have less then zero sympathy for these narcissists who think that talking NOW is the most important thing to do!

jt wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:05 AM:I saw a VISTA sheriff driving while talking on the phone... are the exempt?

Figure It Out wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:22 AM:Driving while talking on a cellphone is a secondary offense, much like having a taillight out. The purpose of secondary offenses is to give cover to law enforcement to make a stop that might expose some greater danger, such as drunk driving. It's another way that your rights can be violated legally, but it can also keep us safer on the roads.

Mind your own business wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:42 AM:I'll talk on my phone, WITHOUT A HANDS FREE DEVICE, any time I want to. Live your life and I'll live mine.
Keep your hands off my individual rights, go be Fascist somewhere else.
It will be a RARE day I even see a cop doing anything to police traffic or speeding let alone looking for citizen-Bob talking to his wife. GO AWAY!

Just a driver wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:03 AM:All of you, need a life.

chickenlittle wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:08 AM:I agree with JSten, (4:54), try cooperating on the roads.
And for Figure It Out, "your rights"? Is it your right to endanger me? How are anyones rights violated if a cop pulls over a cell phone abuser, and finds a secondary infraction? It's everyones safety involved here. As far as I'm concerned the cops have it tough in enforcing the law and it would be nice to go back to the "old school" way of policing.

Hang Up wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:12 AM:'Figure It Out,' I'm sure that the law wasn't written in order to allow traffic stops, it was written to save lives. That said, the fool who doesn't obey traffic laws and drives an unsafe vehicle down the road deserves to be pulled over, figure it out.

John E wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:14 AM:"Figure It Out," secondary offense laws are not "another way that your rights can be violated legally" -- driving is a privilege, not a right, and we operate motor vehicles under implied consent. What you do inside your own home is your business, but what one does while motoring affects numerous other road users.

"Whereare," the statistics on cell phone use and vehicle collision rate are available, and talking on the phone is roughly equivalent to having a marginally DUI 0.08% blood alcohol level.

Irrespective of the letter of the law, the moral imperative is clear -- since we make life-and-death decisions continuously while driving, we are obligated to drive as attentively and responsibly as possible, and this includes eschewing all unnecessary telephone conversation, hands-free or hands-on.

STOP TALKING AND ENJOY THE DRIVE wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:17 AM:What are the real chanches that a call is an emergency,and what could you do about it when you are driving. I would bet that the percentage of emergency calls are very low.(yes I am sure there are some) Are school personel not trained to handle any emergency.
C.J.Hardman a amtrak train conductor, if her child has a problem when she is working, will she turn the train around, stop it and call a cab to get to the school,or what. Will any of these phones take a message, the call can be received when safe.

AAA wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:21 AM:Just another stupid law for a state with too many stupid laws already. The CA Nanny State has another source of free income. Make no mistake, this is an arbitrary tax. It will have no impact on safety statistics. Maybe next ban driving when the roads are wet, or after dark. How about a ban on eating, drinking, or reading while driving?

Answers wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:25 AM:Police, Firemen, and EMT/Paramedics are exempt because of the need to communicate while on the road.

23123 V.C.
(d) This section does not apply to an emergency services professional using a wireless telephone while operating an authorized emergency vehicle, as defined in Section 165, in the course and scope of his or her duties.

Caller ID wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:38 AM:For Ms. C.J. Hardman.... "when the phone rings while I am driving, I pick it up because it could be my child's school calling...." UH, ISN'T THAT WHAT CALLER ID IS FOR? YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL WHO IS CALLING BEFORE YOU ANSWER!

Stupid Law wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:42 AM:This is a stupid law. Holding a phone to your ear and talking on the phone, is not that much different than talking to a passenger. But looking down at your phone and trying to dial a number IS LEGAL. That's what we needed another stupid law. If they enforced the current laws they wouldn't have to make up stupid new ones.

To Answers wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:46 AM:But that doesn't explain why the shouldn't have to use hands free like everyone else.

Law Enforcement wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:47 AM:1st rule in the traffic code is that all Law Enforcement are exempt from all the traffic laws.

"Mind your own business" you are everything that is wrong with America, please leave.

Stupid state wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:52 AM:California is a state full of morons. If they could tax stupidity you'd all have a huge bill on your hands.

Thank goodness CA voters had the foresight to elect officials that have your best interests at heart. I can drive down the I-5 eating a doughnut in one hand, changing a CD with the other, and I can find time to shave & do my makup- all legal. HOWEVER, a 10 second phone call without an earphone is illegal.

Like I said, morons.

To Mind your own business- wrote on Nov 26, 2008 9:03 AM:I actually agree with you 100%. It seems like everyone in this state feels they know how to live my life better than me, can make decisions better than me, and know how to spend MY money better than me.

This state, the gov, the people need to MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS for once.

lazy drivers wrote on Nov 26, 2008 9:08 AM:If you can shave or put on make-up or eat while you're driving, then you don't belong on the road. Get your lazy butt out of bed earlier!!!!!I'm glad we have this law. Too many reckless drivers endangering the rest of us with their gossiping while driving.

MarineGunner wrote on Nov 26, 2008 9:13 AM:Talking on the phone can be a distraction, but not nearly as bad as texting.

What the law should have been is a law against texting while driving. Now, that is just impossible to do without taking your eyes off the road.
I have seen so many cars on the freeway that just start slooowing down, and slooooowing down, in the left(passing) lane at that! So, now I have to pass on the right, which is wrong, and as I go by them I see them looking down and tapping away... oblivious that they are going 45 mph.

Some converstations on a phone are not as distracting as others. For instance, if I am on my way to a friends house for dinner, I am most certain that answering that "Where you at?" call is not nearly as much of a distraction as if I was on the phone with a business associate trying to discuss the next "big deal".

Who really cares wrote on Nov 26, 2008 9:55 AM:I commute 100 miles a day and it is RARE that I see even one highway patrol or police officer.

Like I CARE about this law, I talk on my phone every day WITHOUT a hands-free device. The cops don't care about speeders, road rage, or aggressive drivers so who really cares about them and some stupid law.

I always obey the law wrote on Nov 26, 2008 11:30 AM:I just play my gameboy while driving my car. And I always read hugh billboards that remind me to keep my eyes on the road.

dutch wrote on Nov 26, 2008 11:36 AM:I think the government should supply the headsets to people.

to but wrote on Nov 26, 2008 11:42 AM:Are you serious? Having money and a nice car doesn't make you exempt, maybe your just stupid, like your comment.

Across The Board wrote on Nov 26, 2008 11:53 AM:I see EPD officers on cell phones EVERY day. The law should apply across the board, or not be enforced at all.

exempt wrote on Nov 26, 2008 12:49 PM:Cops are exempt from the vehicle code, they regularly have to multitask while driving anyway, so a cell phone is the least of your worries:

23123(d) This section does not apply to an emergency services professional using a wireless telephone while operating an authorized emergency vehicle, as defined in Section 165, in the course and scope of his or her duties.

Looking Glass wrote on Nov 26, 2008 1:05 PM:My SUV got totaled because a young driver dropped his cell phone while driving. Now if this law were enforced, I wouldn't have to spend thousands of dollars on a new car. THESE PEOPLE ARE RECKLESS AND SHOULD NOT HAVE A CELL PHONE IN THEIR HANDS WHILE DRIVING. Period, end of discussion. Next issue?

Deanna wrote on Nov 26, 2008 1:37 PM:While driving on the 78 west on Friday I couldn't help but notice a young female driving behind me, with her cell phone glued to her ear, all over the road, then tailgateing me and then slowing way down so the car behind her had to slow down. Did she care about the rest of us on the road? No! It was all about her! That road is dangerous enough with swiping slopes down into the valley, or on coming traffic and curves, she simply didn't care.
We all seemed to be so brain washed that we absolutely NEED a cell phone to our ear or we will MISS something! Hog wash!
I can imagine what she just HAD to say on this phone that was so important...Hey bro, what are we doing tonight? anything going down? Is the gang getting together, what time?
Like any of this is important! Think about others besides yourselves for once or next time all of us will be found dead down in that valley.

To Looking Glass wrote on Nov 26, 2008 1:42 PM:You can't cure stupid so this is the perfect scenario when good insurance would come in handy.

esteban wrote on Nov 26, 2008 1:52 PM:I always drive and talk on the cell. No blue tooth for me.

Laura wrote on Nov 26, 2008 2:00 PM:I've seen Police Officers in Vista driving with while talking on their cell phones as well...they need to set the example.

Young ladies need to have wrote on Nov 26, 2008 2:26 PM:I`m sure Miss teen South Carolina would agree that as such women need to concentrate on the road not on inane chatter

Brad wrote on Nov 26, 2008 2:35 PM:I wonder how much compassion these cops would show if we just decided to cut their paychecks a few hundred bucks once a month or so?

What do you think estaban, since you are a cop lover and an obvious law breaker?

I KNOW wrote on Nov 26, 2008 2:47 PM:why texting wasn't added to the law, because texting doesn't take that much time,, most teenagers and people pretty much write OMG U R My BFF,, C-U 2NITE,
ILU, I'll TTYL,,,, by the way this is just a stupid joke from me.. Drive Safely and keep your eyes on the road

To good for the goose wrote on Nov 26, 2008 4:51 PM:thats it attack law enforcement. By the way, most cops that are on the phone while driving are conducting business. There is a lot of stuff you don't know about police won't so don't judge them...

Great example wrote on Nov 26, 2008 5:47 PM:It's pretty bad when you see a county sheriff talking on a cell while he's driving. I've seen this on my commute home and had to do a double take. I see people regularly talking on cell's on my drive from downtown Riverside to Temecula, I just laugh. At least it won't be me getting the ticket, or are tickets actually issued???

Theotis wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:41 PM:To the "to": That's right, bro. NEVER used a cell phone while driving. And I do not eat and drive at the same time either.

Steve wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:19 PM:Rubbing one out while on the road is still legal but cell phones aren't?

My Life wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:32 PM:@Mind Your Own Business
RE: I'll talk on my phone, WITHOUT A HANDS FREE DEVICE, any time I want to. Live your life and I'll live mine.

How can I live my life if you T-bone me after running a red light while talking on your phone? The reason the law went into effect is because there were an alarming number of car accidents being attributed to Cell Phone use. For those who say that texting should be banned... it IS. The law bans the use of a hand-held device while driving. I'd love to see you type a text message hands free!

RE: Ms. Hardman, I hope you at least aren't cheating when driving the train. And I'll remind everyone here of that extreme example as well.

Esteban is wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:45 PM:Esteban is anti-law.

Esteban, you are a hypocrit - you constantly preach the law, but it's obvious you dont think it applies to you.

Esteban is anti-law. Does that make him also, anti-police (since he doesn't respect the law).

matt wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:19 PM:i think this is a good law but i always see cops turning without a turn signal on..i didnt know they were exempt from that law either...

free money to the government wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:23 PM:not if you dont do it
if everyone followed this law the government wouldnt make any money from it at all

Looking Glass wrote on Nov 26, 2008 11:26 PM:Luckily I had good insurance, but this was a headache I really didn't need. If people would HANG UP AND DRIVE, then they wouldn't inconvenience other drivers with auto accidents. I make it a personal point NOT to talk on my cell while driving - if it rings, I don't pick it up.

I see stupid people wrote on Nov 27, 2008 7:28 AM:All you phone yackers are dumb as dirt if you cant comprehend the fact multitasking while driving is dangerous to you and everyone around you.
The only way you will figure out it is dangerous is the same way a child figures out the burners on the stove is hot.
Unfortunately in this instance you could also kill the driver next to you on you. Like I said, I see stupid people and possibly the next dead one.

Police need the phone wrote on Nov 27, 2008 7:35 AM:All the police you see talking on the phone while driving are probably responding to an accident caused buy you idiots who caused an accident while talking on your phone.

I see stupid people wrote on Nov 27, 2008 7:37 AM:If anyone of you yackers rear end me, I will get the best lawyer I can and drain your savings and checking account.

New ideas wrote on Nov 27, 2008 7:48 AM:The time has come to seperate traffic police and criminal police. Criminal police will deal with any crime not related to traffic laws and traffic police would deal with - well you can see where this goes. We all think about what it means when a police officer is sitting watching traffic and giving out tickets for talking on the cell phone - where is a cop when you need one? The opposite of the this is just as bad - find a cop for a traffic accident when there is bank robbery in progress - good luck! Of course you will hear from all the nay sayers from tax organizations to police unions but the time has come... Seperate these agencies and you will have better enforcement all around.

ken wrote on Nov 27, 2008 10:36 AM:I don't know why the reporter is using the works "sneaking" or anything else! The truth of the matter is that those that are still using their phones without hand free devices, are BREAKING the law. I expect our law enforcements officers to write up all of the ones that are breaking the law. That is what they get paid for.

I personally am mad as hell, if I can obey the laws, then everyone else should. I am tired of seeing people (especially women)holding their phones up to their ears and "GABBING" away!

There needs to be many more tickets written and larger fines paid by those that are breaking the law!

To new ideas wrote on Nov 27, 2008 12:11 PM:not a bad suggestion, but then remember most of the general public is too stupid to know which one does what. A majority of these blogger are dissing the cops because they HAVE to use their phones while on patrol. By the way, the cops have to pay for their own phones too just to let you know. These cops are also typing into the computers, reading the next call that comes to them, ONE THEIR COMPUTER. This is not adam 12 days, everything is done electronic. That is why the law was written to exclude all emergency personel.

Cops And Their Phones wrote on Nov 27, 2008 7:16 PM:No one is suggesting a cop shouldn't be able to use their phones while driving. In fact the law itself doesn't say anyone can't use their phone while driving (unless you're under 18).

I am the first to agree that whatever is on the other end of that phone has better be pretty darn important if you think I'm going to pick up. I hate talking on the phone as it is ... and driving with all the idiots who change lanes without looking and don't bother to use their turn signals is also more than I can stand ... I won't answer anything that rings while I drive unless I really believe it to be an emergency.

What people (including me) don't understand is why they (the cops) get to hold their phones in their hands while everyone else has to go hands free. Not to mention the very 'creative' ways I've seen people talk on their phones 'hands free'. Some of what I've seen is far more dangerous than if they were just holding the stupid phone to begin with.

If safety is truly the issue then it shouldn't matter who it is behind the wheel ... everyone should be hands free. Cops aren't immune from making the same stupid mistakes as the rest of the general public so, in theory, if hands free is safer for the public then it would also be safer for the cop.

What's good for the goose and all that ...

ghost rider wrote on Nov 27, 2008 8:26 PM:I'm a ghost. I used to be a mother, wife, daughter, sister, ER nurse, teacher, red cross volunteer. I understand... the other driver couldn't operate his turn signal because he was holding his phone. I sure hope it was a friendly call that he was answering. It cost me my life.

To ghost rider wrote on Nov 27, 2008 10:10 PM:Gee ... it sure would be nice if holding a cell phone was the only reason people didn't use their turn signals.

I see this everyday and it absolutely infuriates me. Unfortunately, the leading cause (as determined by my own informal eye-witness study) is plain and simple stupidity.

Ed wrote on Nov 27, 2008 10:45 PM:Did I miss the candle light vigil for this blatant targeting of illegal cell phone use while endangering other drivers on the road.
How dare the police issue citations to those who are breaking the law. What is going on here, we are expected to follow the rules?
Where are all the activists, we need them to cry about this law too.

Marianne wrote on Nov 28, 2008 11:38 AM:I'll stop using my cellphone to talk and send text messages when I see police do the same. I've witnessed officers yapping on their cellphone while driving or stopped at a redlight next to me. Once again...they think they are above the law.

To Marianne wrote on Nov 28, 2008 4:48 PM:In case you haven't caught on ... police are exempt from the law.

It's wrong that they are ... but they are.

Mike S wrote on Nov 28, 2008 11:25 PM:This was the best "news" available to NCTimes that day??? Guess next week is the expose on the lady down the street who walks her dog after dark to avoid picking up her dog's pooh.

...and the editor wonder's why folks don't subscribe.

ILLEGAL wrote on Nov 29, 2008 9:56 AM:What part of ILLEGAL don't you people understand? Stop using the cell phone while driving or pay the fines. Driver licences need to be suspended after a third offense. Get your lazy hypocrite butts out of bed earlier so you wont need to shave or put on make-up while driving.

Police wrote on Nov 29, 2008 10:03 AM:Police can do many things that we civilians can not. It's simple as that. Stop whining like a baby and obey the law. I hope the police start being more strict and hand out more tickets to you illegals...that's right.If you talk on the phone while driving which is illegal..that makes you a criminal. AN ILLEGAL! Law breaking citizens..SHAME!

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