LETTERS: NCT, Dec. 3, 2008
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Cable company providing aggravation
Carlsbad residents are hogtied to Time Warner Cable Company by the city. We have no choice about this, and it's ridiculous!
The constant problem of television programs being disrupted by "pixelization" is totally unacceptable. The huge number of channels available provide precious little worth watching.
But when I finally find something that I want to watch to be entertained, all I get is aggravation by the program being interrupted or discontinued by "pixelization."
The shortest telephone hold time I have experienced to report or discuss this problem with Time Warner was 45 minutes.
I had Cox Cable when I lived in Oceanside, and it was great. They flawlessly took care of my phone, TV and internet service at a reasonable rate.
So listen up, Carlsbad politicians. This is an easy fix and will get you a lot of voter appreciation. Get rid of Time Warner! You have the power. Let us have Cox Cable! Please!
Is anyone else fed up with Time Warner? Let our politicians know!
Ronald Wacik
Carlsbad
Work continuing on water project
The North County Times article about the Fallbrook Public Utility District concerning the Santa Margarita River Conjunctive Use Project involving Congressional HR 29 does not make sense ("Bill to authorize water project may be up for vote in January," Nov. 26).
If HR 29 does not pass in the lame-duck session of Congress, which it will not, it must be re-introduced as a new, different-numbered bill in the new 2009 Congress and must again receive approval in both the House and Senate. ...
The Bureau of Reclamation was/is working on ... (environmental) statements at meetings on this problem on Oct. 29 in Fallbrook and Oct. 30 and 31 in Temecula.
The Oct. 29 meeting was well attended by members of the Sierra Club, of which I am a member. Serious environmental problems still exist. William Steele, Bureau of Reclamation, was this meeting's coordinator. Attending Sierra Club members presented several required permits, which were supported by the bureau's contractors.
The environmental intent of moving all protected wildlife in Camp Pendleton to a remote mountainous area, thereby making room for a large "collapsible dam," was not supported by those Sierra Club members present.
The Marine Corps is also investigating desalination plants as an alternative.
Archie McPhee
Fallbrook
Obama's identification incorrect
Ray Erler was absolutely correct in his Nov. 14 letter ("Obama's talents attributed to both bloodlines"). The media worldwide continually refers to President-elect Barack Obama as the first African-American to be elected president of the United States. This identification is incorrect.
When Barack Obama takes the oath of office, he will be the first half-white, half-black president of the United States ... However, to be very correct, he will be an American-American president, as he was born in America and not Africa.
Imagine if he were half-Egyptian and half-white. Would he be referred to as an Egyptian-American or an African-American? American citizens with hyphenated names has become ridiculous and should be stopped, as all citizens of this great nation are Americans, regardless of what nation, if any, their ancestors came from.
Leon Smith
Oceanside
What does 'president-elect' mean?
Would someone direct me to the office of the president-elect? Surely there must be one.
When Barack Obama holds press conferences, his podium has the sign "The Office of the President Elect" on it. What power does this office wield?
I believe Obama will take the oath of president in late January and until such time, he is an ordinary citizen and will not inherit the office until after the oath. We saw the same type of hubris when he was running and he had his own presidential seal.
John Moore
Encinitas
Shame on Carlsbad
We are experiencing some tough times right now, no doubt. The government is doing extraordinary things to help stimulate the economy.
Experts agree that people have to spend to get this economy going. So I was happy to see people out in force at the Carlsbad Outlet mall to do exactly that. Too bad Carlsbad had to spoil the party by hovering like sharks to give people parking tickets. No, I am not saying it is right to park illegally.
There were hundreds of people parking on side streets because there was nowhere else to park. The lot was full. Carlsbad obviously knew this. This was a good thing to get people spending! This is what the government is trying to achieve!
Would it have hurt Carlsbad to at least warn people or even turn the other cheek in these hard times? I mean, this was 12 midnight.
The idea is to get people to spend right now. So now they have to take $50 of their hard-earned money to give to Carlsbad. Whatever deals they got were wasted because of the $50 parking ticket.
Thanks, Carlsbad, for stimulating your pockets, not the economy.
Deb Cole
Oceanside
In memory of Ed Wicburg
Sometimes, somewhere in our lives, we come across a brave individual who inspires us to be braver and sturdier in our lives and beliefs. Such a person was Ed Wicburg, a truly brave and sincere man.
It was through Ed and his wife, Harriet, that I became involved in Oceanside affairs, particularly with the City Council. I was quite weak in public speaking. Not anymore.
It was through Ed Wicburg that I became involved in city matters, including the various problems existing at that special time. It was with encouragement from the Wicburgs that I found the courage to be an Oceanside city commissioner and later a senior police volunteer. Those busy, hectic days have passed when we walked through endless busy streets and neighborhoods.
I later joined a group that defeated the installation of a trash receiving station close to our neighborhoods.
The fact remains that I was a changed individual in regard to public service.
Thank you, Ed, and though you have recently passed to better fields, I shall remember and revere the strong memory of those days when we all fought for a better city.
Jean Doktor
Oceanside
Politics not for thin-skinned
I must respond to Lt. Neal Griffin's Community Forum on Nov. 6 in the North County Times ("Escondido POA should dissolve its PAC").
In his own words, he said, "Cops and politics don't mix." I agree!
Lt. Griffin should know that politics is not for the weakhearted or thin-skinned. Olga Diaz shouldn't get a free pass, and neither should she be protected by her husband's job on the police force for her outrageous conduct.
Escondido should be protected from those who break the law, including those who drive without a license, insurance and registration. If Olga doesn't agree with our laws, then it is time her husband takes a leave of absence from the police department as long as she is on the City Council. ...
Thank you, Chief Maher, and your police department for your efforts in making our city safe.
Helen Gallardo
Escondido
Farmers markets provide a wealth of gifts
Shoppers, don't forget your local farmers markets for your Christmas shopping this year. They provide a wealth of wonderful food items, plants and handmade products that are grown and made locally and would make wonderful gifts.
Artisans who sell at the farmers markets need your help now more than ever during tough times, or they may not be there next time you look for them. A unique gift made or grown locally is a good thing on many levels. I won't list them all; you can figure it out.
So check city Web sites and find your local farmers market, and shop, shop, shop.
Kathryn Gould
Vista
What's wrong with our troops?
I cannot help but wonder –– what is wrong with our troops? I read where Marines haven't been home for seven months.
I was in the Cannon Co. 232 Reg., 42 Infantry Div. for three years (1943-1946), in combat in France and Germany. I was able to go home one time in that three years. Should I say it again? Home once in three years. I was not an exception.
At the end of the war, I had a medical problem; I was told, "No sniveling, whining, or complaining. Go home, get a job, get married and get a life. Now get out and good luck."
Raymond Deming
San Marcos
State should take their cue from Alaska
Re: the article written by Chris Bagley "North County jobs recession just getting started, analysts say," Nov. 30: Since the state is considering raising taxes, laying off workers and not having enough money to pay unemployment benefits, why not do what Alaska does? Lease the offshore oil and natural gas rites to the oil companies.
This would bring in money to the state and provide jobs working on the rigs. This state could use the influx of oil revenue and jobs, and will lower the prices at the pump as long as it is done correctly with safeguards to prevent corruption.
Don Messer
Oceanside
Now they tell the truth?
Good Lord. After all the lies this administration has told, with regards to Monday's revelation that we've been in recession since December 2007, can't they just keep their mouths shut for a couple of months and leave my poor 201(k) alone?
You'd almost think there was a "scorched earth" policy in place. But, nooo, now they decide to be truthful. How very thoughtful.
Mike Bertrand
Carlsbad
Bush followed Pete Wilson's example
I refer to "Bush has destroyed the United States," by Christine Carrick (Letters, Oct. 14). She says, "It has only taken George Bush 7 1/2 years to do what the Soviet Union couldn't do in 70-plus years: Destroy the economic vitality of the United States."
This also reminds me of when Gov. Pete Wilson (went) against the Latinos, the blacks and the California Indian casinos and Indian sovereignty. At that time, a Democrat named Gray Davis supported the Indian casinos and the minorities, for he had 15 years of outstanding records.
Gov. Pete Wilson supported Dan Lungren, a Republican who opposed the Indian casinos, etc. Pete Wilson destroyed the Republican party –– you watch and see. During the California election, Gray Davis won 4,294,946 to Republican Dan Lungren, who lost, 2,842,173.
This same thing happened to President George Bush. He destroyed the Republican party. That's why most all the Republican candidates kept their distance from George Bush's policies, except Sen. John McCain (McCain was a hero), but this time with the wrong party.
Bush's administration misled the general public that there were missiles of destruction. Not true. Also this war costing the U.S. $10 billion each month. That's not all.
Max Mazzetti
Valley Center
Our councils have betrayed us
I'd be delighted to have a shopping mall nearby so I could spend my money in Oceanside. However, if the shopping center is built on airport property, as planned, no customer would be safe.
On North Foussat, a sign posted long ago still warns of low-flying planes in response to the airport's high accident rate ever since its inception. Customers would be endangered every time a plane took off or landed, as they fly a few feet above the rooftops of nearby stores/parking spaces.
The very existence of the airport prevents any part of the property being safely used for commercial business or housing. We can either keep the airport, or build a shopping center that could enrich our city and benefit us all, rather than a handful of local pilots.
If we pass up this golden opportunity, and perhaps it's already too late, the chance for a shopping mall in Oceanside will be forever gone. There is little vacant land left to earn revenue for our city's badly needed projects.
Proper and productive use of this commercial land is a gift we must not throw away. Opportunity only knocks once. If lost now, it will not knock again.
June Kristapovich
Oceanside
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Get a Clue wrote on Dec 3, 2008 4:45 AM:Re: Raymond Deming's letter. It makes me wonder if he hnows the difference between all volunteer service (now) and the draft (then)?
Wanda wrote on Dec 3, 2008 6:00 AM:Another Oceanside airport letter, this time from June Kristapovich, warning of the "high accident rate" (though she fails to mention the number of accidents over the past 70 some years the airport has been there).
More confusing, however, is her contention that if we don't kick out the airport right now, and build a shopping mall, "the chance for a shopping mall in Oceanside will be forever gone". Why?
the rule of raoul wrote on Dec 3, 2008 6:58 AM:Simple: when you are talking about someone with whom you agree, like John McCain, look at his service record and find the most heroic things he did. When you are talking about someone with whom you disagree, look at his service record and find the least heroic things he did. Compare and contrast the two men. Voila! One is a hero, the other is trash. Repeat with politicians. Your guy is a great leader. The Democrat is trash. You win this game every time! LOL
To Get a Clue wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:05 AM:Get a Clue
[-] wrote on Dec 3, 2008 4:45 AM:Re: Raymond Deming's letter. It makes me wonder if he hnows the difference between all volunteer service (now) and the draft (then)?
How do you know he was not a volunteer? Not all were drafted during WWII. If you do "volunteer" then you do volunteer for the whole enlistment not just for your liking. You are not issued a family with your duffle or seabag. You don't join the military to get rich or for an 9-5 job. You join it for country, honor and courage. You get a clue.
DD Wiz wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:29 AM:"sdraoul" Needs to do his Homework on Latino Studies
The post from "sdraoul" (12/3 - 9:11pm) again misrepresents something he knows to be false.
He says: "my criticism of DD is based on his lack of knowledge that FDR committed theis heinous racist atrocity without DD even knowing it."
But on several occasions I noted that I had personally been with DEMOCRATIC CALIFORNIA STATE SENATOR JOE DUNN (who "sdraoul" even cited as a source on this issue) during DUNN's 2006 campaign for State Attorney General, and was present with him when he addressed this issue, including before Latino organizations.
This was more than TWO YEARS AGO so "sdraoul" knows he is again lying in a failed attempt to discredit me.
Since I have reported this at least THREE TIMES that "sdraoul" has responded to, the misdirection must be an intentional deception.
The bottom line is this: in a discussion of economic history, "sdraoul" decided to change the subject to try a bit of race baiting. He tried to pick what he thought was an obscure issue in which he could use FDR's tragic racial policies to discredit his economic successes (bait and switch).
But "sdraoul" accidentally picked an issue that I already had more knowledge than he ever will, and then blundered by not knowing that the racist crimes against humanity he was trying to pin on FDR really originated TWO YEARS EARLIER with HERBERT HOOVER! "sdraoul" did not even know that the race war against Mexican Americans actually began TWO YEARS BEFORE FDR took office, under HOOVER, until I and other Democrats brought it to his attention. (If "sdraoul" actually did know this, then it was an even worse display of racism combined with deceit than I could have imagined!)
Peace, prosperity and sunshine to all, DD Wiz
Ms M wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:34 AM:To Leon Smith: All of Obama's life he has received the treatment of a Black person because of the color of his skin. That has not changed just because he is the president elect. He was raised as a proud Black man who endured all the injustices that a Black person has to deal with. He IS a Black man and will always be.
Get a Clue wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:42 AM:Re: To Get a Clue, let me count the differences -
In WWII we were in a declared war, we ALL had to contribute one way or another, remember gas rationing?
The auto industry built exclusively for the miltary, I challenge you to find a 1943 Chevy, Ford or Chrysler that was made for sale to the general public.
In Iraq, what has the C-in-C done to make ALL the people contribute to the "War on Terror"? Has he diverted "the big three" to military production? Is gas rationed? There is NO end-point, no consistant definition of what "winning" is in Iraq.
Max wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:43 AM:SDRaoul yesterday at 9:16 p.m. continues his pathetic campaign of character assassination against Max Cleland, a brave soldier who left three limbs in Vietnam.
Using one of his favorite diversionary tactics, SDRaoul denigrates Cleland's Silver Star by noting he sustained his worst injuries in "an accident."
What does this have to do with Cleland's Silver Star?
THAT'S NOT WHAT HE GOT THE SILVER STAR FOR!
Did SDRaoul really not know that?
Is this a case of ignorance or character assassination?
Or both?
By the way, it is funny (well actually, not) how much more likely "accidents" are when you are around battlefields and stockpiles of grenades.
Oh, and voting against a Homeland Security Act to protect civil liberites is indeed patriotic.
Oh, and voting to support laborers (working people) is indeed patriotic.
Denigrating our highest military awards and demonizing real military heroes is not patriotic.
To John Moore wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:59 AM:President Elect Obama is the President Elect. Who cares how much power he has the authority to yield at this time and he is definately not an ordinary citizen!!! He is the President Elect and he can damn well do what he damn well pleases now and especially on January 20, 2009 when we replaces the criminal who currently resides in the White House. Oh and as far as his personal seal during the campaign it was rather prophetic wasn't it!! I love my new President and after January 20, 2009 George Bush will be an ordinary citizen.
Ron wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:02 AM:Yep! Holidays are Great!
Rested up, and ready to go.
Hope everyone had the same, and didn't get all bogged down in the muck during a wonderful family holiday.
With all the niceties out of the way, let's get to work!
Hey Ronald Wacik wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:08 AM:Do yourself a favor... TURN IT OFF! Get up and get out. Read something interesting. Play a game. Develop a hobby.
Stop whining and find something better to do. I have never paid a cent to TWC or any other cable company here in Carlsbad. I don't miss it either.
Spot on Leon wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:10 AM:Precisely! We need to do away with the hyphenization of Americans. It's an antiquated practice whose time has passed.
Republican Socialist wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:12 AM:You tell 'em, Don Messer!
Your letter is right on.
California needs to join Alaska as a socialist state, owning and operating an oil business.
While we're at it, we can copy the Bush administration and take over some financial institutions as well.
Maybe next, some car companies!
to Deb Cole wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:15 AM:Hey Deb, get a clue.
Maybe they were issuing "idiot citations" for those who were too dumb to know that 12:00 midnight is for sleeping, and also that parking illegally is illegal.
That $50 will fit nicely into the city coffers.
OBAMAPREZ wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:19 AM:A couple of letters this morning prove that, obviously, there are certain people who are just looking to find things to complain about even before the new Obama administration takes office and, since they can't find any issues, they are determined to drum up something, anything!
John Moore complains about the "president-elect" - but if Obama were not taking aggressive actions to be ready to hit the ground running on day one, Moore would be first in line to complain that he was too unprepared.
Leon Smith joins Ray Erler's previous letter in making a big deal about Obama's ethnicity. Obviously, these guys don't understand the sad history of racism in this country and the "one drop rule" that said that anyone with any African ancestry was considered fully African. Hopefully, those like Obama, Tiger Woods, Bill Cosby, Michael Jordan and others who transcend race will put an end to this sad chapter in American perspectives.
OBAMAPREZ
a fan of ALF wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:22 AM:Alf[-] wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:20 AM:Well, "Sally" at 11:02PM on the 2nd,
Mrs. Alf and I got married with NO intention of having children and we have lived up to that intent for over 16 years.
Should our marriage be null and void because we had the gall NOT to make babies?
Marriage is currently the right of any two non-related consenting adults of opposite genders.
Making babies has nothing to do with the decision to get married for a vast majority of people.
Just because it is YOUR obsession does not give you the right to inflict YOUR criteria on anyone else.
When Prop. 8 is overturned by the court or repealed by the voters, the marriage of two consenting, non-related adults of opposite genders will be valid,
and so will the marriage of two consenting, non-related adults of the same gender.
What's the big deal other than your trying to inflict YOUR religious views on others via the law?
If you are married, will YOUR marriage be altered in any way if homosexuals can also marry?
Answer that last question directly and honestly, if you can.
Merry Christmas, Alf.
To Leon Smith wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:25 AM:People born in this country are U.S. citizens. The name America, comes from Amerigo Vespucci and was given to the northern and southern continents. Therefor, Canadians are Americans,Mexicans are Americans, Brazilians are Americans, etc. If you wish to add the north or south to American, do so.People have every right to maintain their heritage in any way they want.Let it be.
Gotta Wonder wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:28 AM:sdraoul: You have failed miserably once again to prove your silly allegation. It is evident that neither DD or I directly or indirecting insulted the valor of the 36 Mexican-Americans who were decorated with the Congressional Medal of Honer. End of story!
Focal Point wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:34 AM:To Get a Clue[-] wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:05 AM: There was a news article just today that stated many veterans are reenlisting due to the worsening ecconomy and unavailability of jobs. It is also very true that enlistees also join up due to since of duty to the country and the honer of professing arms in the nation's defense. A person who enlisted or a person drafter during WWII was required to serve for the duration of the War. The Iraqi war is different in that there are multiple tours of duty and in some cases the enlistment was extended.
President Elect wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:40 AM:I must say, it IS interesting to see so much attention heaped on the "Office of the President-Elect". I don't recall this happening with prior ones. But to me, this indicates how badly Americans WANT Bush out and Obama in, sooner the better. Obama ran on "hope and change". He won. Bush's approval ratings set a record low. The country is in terrible shape financially, militarily, and morally/legally. The nation is desperate in its need for new leadership, a new direction. This is why Obama's "office" is getting so much attention. ANY sign from him that he's taking preparatory action is great news to most Americans. If you are offended by it, complain to Bush: he created the need for it.
Ron wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:52 AM:So....
Now were told "bankruptcy isn't a viable option" to The Big Three or for
the United Auto Workers.
Too big to fail, now where have I heard that one before? Hmmmmmm?
After first being told were were going to fall off into the economic abyss if taxpayers would not bail out these finanical institutions who made these ridiculous loans via CRA, fannie/freddie.
Now, the auto companies are too big to fail.
Ya know, if you go just a little more south, you'll find plenty of automakers doing just fine, but then again...
They don't seem to be subject to endless micro-managing by Congress, nor have they entered, stupidly into lifelong benefit packages that pay more after a guy retires.
Let em fail, ole Buffet's got some cash.
OMG wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:57 AM:sdraoul[-] wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:07 PM:
"Calling John Kerry a hero when compared to this guy is mindless."
SDRaoul comparing one soldiers sacrifice to anothers during wartime in an attempt to discredit ones service IS by far the most mindless comment I have read since the election.
Anyone brave enough to enter combat during wartime is a hero, no special level of sacrifice is required.
Ron wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:58 AM:hey.. ah.. "Max" @7:43 AM...
ya need to cool your jets here on SDRaoul.
Max Cleland, may have been a brave soldier who left three limbs in Vietnam.
But now, he will forever be known as the guy who voted to save his Senate seat, instead of doing his due diligence in the run up to the war in Iraq.
HE is the one who has denigrated both himself, and his office, by choosing to save his own skin, instead of sending yung men off to war.
Ya ought to think about it.
With that one vote, I think he is almost in the Duke Cunningham catagory of selling out your office.
Just one man's opinion.
OMG wrote on Dec 3, 2008 9:09 AM:Dear Deb,
Hopefully all the ticketed folks that think they are above those pesky parking ordinances that keep us safe by maintaining lanes for emergency vehicles can use this as a civics lesson for their children.
Not that "It is only illegal if you get caught", but that there can be consequences for putting self-interests before public safety.
Reardon wrote on Dec 3, 2008 9:13 AM:I hope everyone read the morning editorial.
It impacts this blog.
Favorably.
WELL SAID wrote on Dec 3, 2008 9:29 AM:"Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right." – "Minority Report" (The Johns Hopkins University Press)
To Leon Smith wrote on Dec 3, 2008 9:35 AM:"... as he was born in America and not Africa."
You sure about that?
MarineGunner wrote on Dec 3, 2008 9:44 AM:to: Hey Ronald Wacik
So, you are saying that because YOU don't subscribe to TWC, the rest of us who do utilize the service, without a choice of providers, should just accept poor service and "get a life"?
We pay for a service, we expect service.
There is no excuse for the constant interuptions in service due to "pixelization". Ronald Waciks' letter is spot on.
The fact that we do not have a choice of cable providers is part of the problem. Whatever happened to competition?
hmm?
Apollo wrote on Dec 3, 2008 10:19 AM:Re: Ron (8:58 a.m.)
Are you kidding me?
RON of all people is going to lecture anyone about doing "due diligence in the run up to the war in Iraq"?
Ron, who supported Bush every inch of the way and has never backtracked?
First of all, let me say that MAX (7:43 a.m.) was right on, that voting to support working people and against a version of Homeland Security with too many compromises on civil liberties is, indeed, the height of patriotism. Trying to compare Cleland's principled, courages stand (knowing he would be running for reelection from a conservative Southern state) with Cunningham's bribery shopping list is pathetic and disgusting.
So let me repeat the "due diligence" that ALL of the Republicans (except one) and half the Democrats missed:
Our allies the French supported us in the first Gulf War and after 9/11 and owe great reverence and respect to the U.S. for what we did in World War II. (Well so much for blowing that reservoir of good will.)
They did not sucker for the current lies about WMD.
Our allies the Germans supported us in the first Gulf War and after 9/11.
They did not sucker for the current lies about WMD.
EVERYONE KNEW THERE WAS NO WMD.
The National Intelligence Estimate for that year said there were NO WMD.
Bush's own weapons inspector, Scott Ritter, said there were NO WMD.
The UN weapons inspectors (Hanx Blix and Mohammed El Baradei) said there were NO WMD.
All of the above were ridiculed by conservatives. (Remember "Freedom Fries"?)
All of the above WERE RIGHT.
gracchus wrote on Dec 3, 2008 10:48 AM:ron, your communique at 8:58 a.m. makes absolutely no sense to me. how does max cleland remotely fall into the same category as randy cunningham, the congressman who holds a spot in history thus far of having received more bribes than any other?
what specifically did max cleland do which you find so opprobrious?
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